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Yes he will RW...yes he will...he will get 5 billion to start the wall or the government will be shut down and with the Caravan waiting to get in will cause the folks to blame the dems....Trump is trying to do the right thing...people will see that...at least the people that don't work for the federal government....or the over paid media hacks....How can they lose?The dems are going to lose this one...they were shocked and horrified he didn't remove the press...before the meeting started....
Trump wonāt get his wall
Yes.Trump announcing heās not paying his workers is going to put pressure on someone else? Yeahā¦go with that.
Sure it will because then those workers would be contacting their representatives to pressure them to compromise.
In the past, they all knew they'd get paid, so they were hoping for a shutdown; I know I would be as a federal worker. In fact I'd be hoping for a two month shutdown.
All bill submitted by those reps/senators are meaningless without the Presidentās signature. The blob is the one that can end a shutdown heās said he would be āproudā to initiate. Roll the dice with that, please.
I think he will do that because Trump is that kind of guy.
He will explain to the American people that the Democrats are not for border security and he is. If they do not give him the ability to aid in securing our border, he won't sign anything until it's in there.
While 5 billion dollars is a lot of money, it's nothing in compared to our federal spending. I think people will come to realize that it's not about the money, it's about Democrats not wanting border control.
Okayā¦. Here is what has been happening in reality.
Weāve had this border for about 170 or so years. During that time life here has been pretty good. Wanting to build a wall that statistics show will do nothing to seriously affect immigration is needless. Shutting down the government over something that is needless is not going to be remotely popular except with his base which has shrunk since the 2016 election. The shrinkage has been because of the kidnappings, the sleaze, the failure on most major legislative initiatives, his āfalling in loveā with dictators, siding with Russia over his own intel services etcā¦
But by all means, roll the dice on this; tell workers youāre not going to pay them because youāve locked them out during your tantrum.
So says YOU!
Someone who has lived near the border for many decades.Who the hell are YOU!
No.We don't need a wall?
Driving right over the border through checkpoints or coming here legally and overstaying visas.Then tell us how 22 MILLION illegals along with massive amounts of drugs to poison our you people got here!
MAN up CHICK----------------> either change the law with a congressional vote, or have YOUR peeps do it.
Quit trying to make Trump break the law for YOU! Or, is your argument so weak you can't find sponsors for your heralded bill!
He replaced NAFTA with NAFTA. Minimal concessions and we still have essentially the same agreement we had before.All bill submitted by those reps/senators are meaningless without the Presidentās signature. The blob is the one that can end a shutdown heās said he would be āproudā to initiate. Roll the dice with that, please.
We WILL! And again------->you are for open borders? Yes/no?
To answer your question, no.
My turn
When Trump caves are you going to just excuse this bluster-fuck like you have done all the others? Yes/no
Nope, I will not, I promise!
Great when he pays the employees after the shutdown is over or when he doesnāt get his money to fund the wallā¦youāll criticize the blob. Canāt wait.
Just as an asideā¦did you ever criticize him when it dawned on you that Mexico isnāt going to pay a single peso for the wall. After all, he did promise you guys that.
He delivered. Ever hear of the new NAFTA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
By the way...ā¦ā¦ā¦..have you heard what the Mexicans are saying at the point where the caravans are?
Know what, your cooked, and we both know it!
He replaced NAFTA with NAFTA. Minimal concessions and we still have essentially the same agreement we had before.We WILL! And again------->you are for open borders? Yes/no?
To answer your question, no.
My turn
When Trump caves are you going to just excuse this bluster-fuck like you have done all the others? Yes/no
Nope, I will not, I promise!
Great when he pays the employees after the shutdown is over or when he doesnāt get his money to fund the wallā¦youāll criticize the blob. Canāt wait.
Just as an asideā¦did you ever criticize him when it dawned on you that Mexico isnāt going to pay a single peso for the wall. After all, he did promise you guys that.
He delivered. Ever hear of the new NAFTA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
By the way...ā¦ā¦ā¦..have you heard what the Mexicans are saying at the point where the caravans are?
Know what, your cooked, and we both know it!
Well, I donāt know what any of that means but make sure youāre here when Trump caves. Okay?
I would agree if not for the fact government workers always get paid. In a sense itās really a paid vacation on top of their other generous vacation time we give them. They may have to wait until government reopens again, but they will get their pay. Trump should announce right now that no worker gets paid for the time they didnāt work. That would put more pressure on the Democrats.
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Trump announcing heās not paying his workers is going to put pressure on someone else? Yeahā¦go with that.
Sure it will because then those workers would be contacting their representatives to pressure them to compromise.
In the past, they all knew they'd get paid, so they were hoping for a shutdown; I know I would be as a federal worker. In fact I'd be hoping for a two month shutdown.
All bill submitted by those reps/senators are meaningless without the Presidentās signature. The blob is the one that can end a shutdown heās said he would be āproudā to initiate. Roll the dice with that, please.
I think he will do that because Trump is that kind of guy.
He will explain to the American people that the Democrats are not for border security and he is. If they do not give him the ability to aid in securing our border, he won't sign anything until it's in there.
While 5 billion dollars is a lot of money, it's nothing in compared to our federal spending. I think people will come to realize that it's not about the money, it's about Democrats not wanting border control.
Okayā¦. Here is what has been happening in reality.
Weāve had this border for about 170 or so years. During that time life here has been pretty good. Wanting to build a wall that statistics show will do nothing to seriously affect immigration is needless. Shutting down the government over something that is needless is not going to be remotely popular except with his base which has shrunk since the 2016 election. The shrinkage has been because of the kidnappings, the sleaze, the failure on most major legislative initiatives, his āfalling in loveā with dictators, siding with Russia over his own intel services etcā¦
But by all means, roll the dice on this; tell workers youāre not going to pay them because youāve locked them out during your tantrum.
He replaced NAFTA with NAFTA. Minimal concessions and we still have essentially the same agreement we had before.To answer your question, no.
My turn
When Trump caves are you going to just excuse this bluster-fuck like you have done all the others? Yes/no
Nope, I will not, I promise!
Great when he pays the employees after the shutdown is over or when he doesnāt get his money to fund the wallā¦youāll criticize the blob. Canāt wait.
Just as an asideā¦did you ever criticize him when it dawned on you that Mexico isnāt going to pay a single peso for the wall. After all, he did promise you guys that.
He delivered. Ever hear of the new NAFTA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
By the way...ā¦ā¦ā¦..have you heard what the Mexicans are saying at the point where the caravans are?
Know what, your cooked, and we both know it!
Well, I donāt know what any of that means but make sure youāre here when Trump caves. Okay?
Of course you have no idea what that means because---------->you have absolutely no idea what is actually going on, lol!
Why are we all not surprised-)
He replaced NAFTA with NAFTA. Minimal concessions and we still have essentially the same agreement we had before.Nope, I will not, I promise!
Great when he pays the employees after the shutdown is over or when he doesnāt get his money to fund the wallā¦youāll criticize the blob. Canāt wait.
Just as an asideā¦did you ever criticize him when it dawned on you that Mexico isnāt going to pay a single peso for the wall. After all, he did promise you guys that.
He delivered. Ever hear of the new NAFTA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
By the way...ā¦ā¦ā¦..have you heard what the Mexicans are saying at the point where the caravans are?
Know what, your cooked, and we both know it!
Well, I donāt know what any of that means but make sure youāre here when Trump caves. Okay?
Of course you have no idea what that means because---------->you have absolutely no idea what is actually going on, lol!
Why are we all not surprised-)
ok
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.Trump announcing heās not paying his workers is going to put pressure on someone else? Yeahā¦go with that.
Sure it will because then those workers would be contacting their representatives to pressure them to compromise.
In the past, they all knew they'd get paid, so they were hoping for a shutdown; I know I would be as a federal worker. In fact I'd be hoping for a two month shutdown.
All bill submitted by those reps/senators are meaningless without the Presidentās signature. The blob is the one that can end a shutdown heās said he would be āproudā to initiate. Roll the dice with that, please.
I think he will do that because Trump is that kind of guy.
He will explain to the American people that the Democrats are not for border security and he is. If they do not give him the ability to aid in securing our border, he won't sign anything until it's in there.
While 5 billion dollars is a lot of money, it's nothing in compared to our federal spending. I think people will come to realize that it's not about the money, it's about Democrats not wanting border control.
Okayā¦. Here is what has been happening in reality.
Weāve had this border for about 170 or so years. During that time life here has been pretty good. Wanting to build a wall that statistics show will do nothing to seriously affect immigration is needless. Shutting down the government over something that is needless is not going to be remotely popular except with his base which has shrunk since the 2016 election. The shrinkage has been because of the kidnappings, the sleaze, the failure on most major legislative initiatives, his āfalling in loveā with dictators, siding with Russia over his own intel services etcā¦
But by all means, roll the dice on this; tell workers youāre not going to pay them because youāve locked them out during your tantrum.
What statistics do you speak of that a wall will not work? CNN? MSNBC? And what professional input did they have that is paramount to our border security?
Youāre right about that.The government does not have to be shut down.
Statistics prove you incorrect. Besides, isnāt Mexico going to pay for the wall? Why does he need money from Congress?Just get the Democrats to give Trump his 5 billion or so and let him have the wall.
We both know that can't happen and we both know why: because the wall will have tremendous success.
Now let's see: Trump's approval ratings are down, and the MSM reports over 92% negative about Trump. Gee, the only reason I can think of for that is because of Russia collusion.
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Trump has actually done something in the real world. Pelosi and Schumer are nothing but lifetime parasitic bureaucrats.Trump puts Chuck and Nancy on display. The way Nancy pushed Chuck around was delightful.
Pelosi, Schumer Plead to Trump: āLetās Debateā Border Funds āin Privateā
The only loser in the extended exchange is trump.
He just blamed himself for any Christmas shutdown.
Yes he did. Unlike Democrats who send their MSM into action to blame any shutdown on Republicans, Trump was man enough to say he owns it.
You lie!
Trumpās never been called a man.
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Trump has actually done something in the real world. Pelosi and Schumer are nothing but lifetime parasitic bureaucrats.Trump puts Chuck and Nancy on display. The way Nancy pushed Chuck around was delightful.
Pelosi, Schumer Plead to Trump: āLetās Debateā Border Funds āin Privateā
The only loser in the extended exchange is trump.
He just blamed himself for any Christmas shutdown.
Yes he did. Unlike Democrats who send their MSM into action to blame any shutdown on Republicans, Trump was man enough to say he owns it.
You lie!
Trumpās never been called a man.
Deep stupidity
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Seriously.......you are pointing out that there are other ways people get here, but never addressed the point about people who are crossing over the border because of no barriers.
Yes, people get here other ways, but we need to take this one step at a time. At least for the people using VISA's and other methods, we know who they are. At least they've been checked out. At least they originally went through a process. Not so with people just walking over the line.
The problem we have in this country is Republicans want to rid our country of illegals and Democrats are doing whatever they can to bring and keep them here. They are willing to shutdown the government over a 5 billion dollar wall, they have sanctuary cities and now states, they give illegals drivers licenses and allow them to vote in local elections. They've even stated they want to get rid of ICE.
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Seriously.......you are pointing out that there are other ways people get here, but never addressed the point about people who are crossing over the border because of no barriers.
Yes, people get here other ways, but we need to take this one step at a time. At least for the people using VISA's and other methods, we know who they are. At least they've been checked out. At least they originally went through a process. Not so with people just walking over the line.
The problem we have in this country is Republicans want to rid our country of illegals and Democrats are doing whatever they can to bring and keep them here. They are willing to shutdown the government over a 5 billion dollar wall, they have sanctuary cities and now states, they give illegals drivers licenses and allow them to vote in local elections. They've even stated they want to get rid of ICE.
No. Trump is willing to shut down the government over $5 Billion for the wall.
I see your fear has returned. It probably never left.
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Seriously.......you are pointing out that there are other ways people get here, but never addressed the point about people who are crossing over the border because of no barriers.
Yes, people get here other ways, but we need to take this one step at a time. At least for the people using VISA's and other methods, we know who they are. At least they've been checked out. At least they originally went through a process. Not so with people just walking over the line.
The problem we have in this country is Republicans want to rid our country of illegals and Democrats are doing whatever they can to bring and keep them here. They are willing to shutdown the government over a 5 billion dollar wall, they have sanctuary cities and now states, they give illegals drivers licenses and allow them to vote in local elections. They've even stated they want to get rid of ICE.
No. Trump is willing to shut down the government over $5 Billion for the wall.
I see your fear has returned. It probably never left.
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Seriously.......you are pointing out that there are other ways people get here, but never addressed the point about people who are crossing over the border because of no barriers.
Yes, people get here other ways, but we need to take this one step at a time. At least for the people using VISA's and other methods, we know who they are. At least they've been checked out. At least they originally went through a process. Not so with people just walking over the line.
The problem we have in this country is Republicans want to rid our country of illegals and Democrats are doing whatever they can to bring and keep them here. They are willing to shutdown the government over a 5 billion dollar wall, they have sanctuary cities and now states, they give illegals drivers licenses and allow them to vote in local elections. They've even stated they want to get rid of ICE.
No. Trump is willing to shut down the government over $5 Billion for the wall.
I see your fear has returned. It probably never left.
From a Leftist like you, who demands TRILLIONS for climate change, healthcare for illegals, and open borders, is 5 billion the hill you want to die on?
If so why? Explain how less than 1% of the budget is that important to you.
Are YOU and your peeps willing to shut er down for a measly 5 billion bucks, while demanding almost 3 TRILLION to fund all the rest?
Ladies and gentlemen, are we seeing a disconnect here? Why would Candy and friends INSIST upon this?
Will you hold her ACCOUNTABLE, being as it is as obvious as the nose on your face, and she can NOT AVOID being called a phony-e-baloney and defend that position, without being LAUGHED out of this forum!
Youād have to ask CNN or MSNBC I suppose.
More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Seriously.......you are pointing out that there are other ways people get here, but never addressed the point about people who are crossing over the border because of no barriers.
Yes, people get here other ways, but we need to take this one step at a time. At least for the people using VISA's and other methods, we know who they are. At least they've been checked out. At least they originally went through a process. Not so with people just walking over the line.
The problem we have in this country is Republicans want to rid our country of illegals and Democrats are doing whatever they can to bring and keep them here. They are willing to shutdown the government over a 5 billion dollar wall, they have sanctuary cities and now states, they give illegals drivers licenses and allow them to vote in local elections. They've even stated they want to get rid of ICE.
No. Trump is willing to shut down the government over $5 Billion for the wall.
I see your fear has returned. It probably never left.
What would I have to fear? Trump won't sign any bill that doesn't include his wall. Democrats will not give him that 5 bil for that wall even if it means shutting down the govenrment. It seems pretty obvious to me which end the Democrats side with: illegals or Americans.
So WTF does that have to do with the wall not working. This is what you call statistics?
Seriously?
Seriously.......you are pointing out that there are other ways people get here, but never addressed the point about people who are crossing over the border because of no barriers.
Yes, people get here other ways, but we need to take this one step at a time. At least for the people using VISA's and other methods, we know who they are. At least they've been checked out. At least they originally went through a process. Not so with people just walking over the line.
The problem we have in this country is Republicans want to rid our country of illegals and Democrats are doing whatever they can to bring and keep them here. They are willing to shutdown the government over a 5 billion dollar wall, they have sanctuary cities and now states, they give illegals drivers licenses and allow them to vote in local elections. They've even stated they want to get rid of ICE.
No. Trump is willing to shut down the government over $5 Billion for the wall.
I see your fear has returned. It probably never left.
What would I have to fear? Trump won't sign any bill that doesn't include his wall. Democrats will not give him that 5 bil for that wall even if it means shutting down the govenrment. It seems pretty obvious to me which end the Democrats side with: illegals or Americans.
Trump wonāt sign any bill that doesnāt include his wall? You sure?
