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you were there? why aren't you locked up?
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you were there? why aren't you locked up?
Laying Down The Law On "Sedition" vs. "Treason" vs. "Insurrection" vs. "Coup"
Terms like "sedition" and "insurrection" have taken over the media since the storming of the US Capitol building in January. Let's look at each of them to understand their meaning and implications.www.dictionary.com
Legal definition of sedition
United States law provides specific information on the crime of sedition. Section 2384 of Chapter 115 in Title 18 of the United States Code (which lays out federal crimes and criminal procedures) defines the crime of seditious conspiracy and Section 2385, advocating overthrow of the government.
According to Section 2384, a person can be fined or imprisoned for conspiring to overthrow or oppose the government by force, prevent or delay its laws by force, or take by force its property. Section 2385 makes it a crime—punishable by fines, imprisonment, and/or being barred from federal employment—to engage in such actions as advocating, abetting, advising, or teaching anything that encourages using force to destroy or overthrow the government, including distributing materials or organizing groups to these ends.
Legal definition of insurrection
Title 18 of the US Code (Section 2383 in Chapter 115) also sets out the crime and penalty for insurrection:
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
why do you want to touch everyone?
from the linkPoor idiot, § 2383 doesn't define what insurrection is.
why do you want to touch everyone?
you posted the emojiYou think I'm touching you, nutcase?
from the link
§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
Historical and Revision Notes
Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., §4 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, §4, 35 Stat. 1088).
Word "moreover" was deleted as surplusage and minor changes were made in phraseology.
that's your problem, says right there, definition!!!!Repeating it does not define insurrection.
you posted the emoji
that's your problem, says right there, definition!!!!
An INSURRECTION with no insurrection charges.So?
Seditious conspiracy is worse.
Fake newsTrump never mentioned National Guard to Pelosi or Bowser. Trump was commander-in-chief and only made a comment in passing to his army secretary, who didn't take him seriously and didn't act on it.
Fake news
Fawnboi gets owned again.1. The letter was addressed to SECDEF Miller, advising him that the DC police were adequate.
2. Capitol Police Chief Sund's early request for the NG was denied by Sgt at Arms Irving based on Pelosi's direction.
3. At that time the Trump WH was told that requests for the NG had to come from Pelosi or Bowser. Trump did not nationalize the NG as if there was a national emergency. Normally the NG are under the state governor's control unless there is a national emergency.
4. Pelosi's video nails it down, doesn't it?
More fake newsNone of that indicates Trump message was conveyed to any of them. Trump told Miller 10000 troops would be needed. And he meant that in terms of protecting his people, not the Capitol. Miller didn't act on that because he didn't think Trump was serious. And Miller reported directly to the Secretary of Defense who was authorized to call up the DCNG.
As far as Pelosi, she did not have the authority to call up the DCNG. The Capitol Police Board could have and she could have asked the House Sergeant-at-arms to vote to call them up. But it still would have required McConnell to do the same. Interestingly enough, righties don't blame him, they only blame Pelosi.
Fawnboi gets owned again.
More fake news
fawn boi needing to touch everyone. ewwwwwww
1. The Bowser letter explains why Trump's request for NG troops was denied. Because Bowser said her DC police were adequate. So where were they during the riot?None of that indicates Trump message was conveyed to any of them. Trump told Miller 10000 troops would be needed. And he meant that in terms of protecting his people, not the Capitol. Miller didn't act on that because he didn't think Trump was serious. And Miller reported directly to the Secretary of Defense who was authorized to call up the DCNG.
As far as Pelosi, she did not have the authority to call up the DCNG. The Capitol Police Board could have and she could have asked the House Sergeant-at-arms to vote to call them up. But it still would have required McConnell to do the same. Interestingly enough, righties don't blame him, they only blame Pelosi.