Biden already created the best economy EVER

[Nostra]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

 

[citygator]

Dementia Don

Lol. That’s entertaining and accurate.

 

[rightwinger]

OK...but again where is the denominator that you claim he used?

Ask Trump
You voted for him

 

[Nostra]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Why WOULDN’T people use Trumps employment methodology to evaluate Trump?

I guess all you Trump worshippers can use any method you want.

Doesn't mean I won't call you a lying dumbass.

 

[Nostra]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

 

[Indeependent]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Anybody who voted for Trump believes his employment methodology

I believe people who are actually employed.
Then again, I don’t live in a trailer park in Montecello.

150 million are actually employed
Out of 330 million Americans

How many are children or still in school?
How many are spouses who don’t need to work?
How many are retired?
How many have no skill set?

 

[Faun]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

And you're still kazzing...

Debt to the Penny | U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data

Debt to the Penny is the total debt of the U.S. government and is reported daily. It is made up of intragovernmental holdings and debt held by the public.

www.treasurydirect.gov

 

[rightwinger]

How many are children or still in school?
How many are spouses who don’t need to work?
How many are retired?
How many have no skill set?

Who cares?
They are either employed or not employed

 

[Dragonlady]

Biden has a higher Stock Market than Trump managed in FOUR YEARS of trying

Trump had a much higher stock market than Obama after EIGHT YEARS of trying.

Dumb ass
We are talking about TODAY

And the RECORD Biden Economy

You are a deeply disturbed idiot. Trump doubled Obama's DOW and halved his unemployment. It's one thing to be a mindless hack and another to be a disingenuous prick (not that they're mutually exclusive).

No Stupid! Obama TRIPLED the DOW. He DOUBLED it in his first term. Trump only raised the DOW by 50%. He did half as well as Obama in his first term - and that was BEFORE the pandemic.

As for unemployment, job creation was substantially lower under Trump before the pandemic, and Trump LEFT office with the worst unemployement in a decade.

Dow the day Barry took office : 7949

The day Barry started his second term: 13,649

7949 x 2 = 15,898

Your first claim is a lie.

As far as Barry ”tripling“ the debt, the DOW would have to have been at 23,847 when Barry left office.

It was: 19,827.

Just proved your second claim to be a lie Dragonlady

you are a KKKanadian lying sack of shit.

It's also true the Dow, which had fallen from 14165 to 7949 by inauguration day, continued to fall until it bottomed out at 6627 in March, 2009. So yeah, under Obama, the Dow tripled under Obama from 6627 to 19827.

Just because Barry tanked the DOW in his first few months doesn't mean he wasn't handed the DOW at 7949, Stupid.

Nice try.

First few months??

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con?

Yes, first few months. According to your number, Barry tanked the Dow over 1300 pts from late Jan to March.

You are a special kind of stupid.

Dumbfuck, 6½ weeks is not a "few months." It's not even 2 months. Regardless of your lies, the Dow collapsed from 14K+ to about 6600 due to Bush's Great Recession. It then tripled by the time Obama left office.

Even better. Barry crashed the market in under two months.

Boy, did he suck sweaty donkey balls.

And no, you don't get to have it both ways...................can't blame Bush for Barry's crash then try to give credit to Veggie Joe for Trump's rising Dow.

You clowns are too easy.

LOLOL

He crashed a market that began crashing more than a year before he became president?? You're even crazier than I thought.

Can't have it both ways, Stupid.

LOLOL

Tell me again, rightard, how Obama crashed a market that began crashing before he was president......

You funny.

Tell me how Veggie Joe caused the market to go up that was going up for months before he took office?

You are beyond stupid.

The same way many on the right claimed the same about Trump 4 years ago -- his mere presence inspired the market.

Like Barry's mere presence tanked the market?

Got it.

LOL

Tanks a market that began tanking more than a year earlier? Seems you think Obama had great powers.

When it comes to fucking things up, only Veggie Joe is better than Barry Hussein.

"Veggie Joe" has already done more to get the pandemic under control in 50 days, than Donald Trump did in the entire year before him. It truly demonstrates what a pathetic failure Donald Trump really was as President.

I mean if "Veggie Joe" can stop the rate of disease and death, and get the country back on the road to recovery, both health-wise, and economically in just 50 days, how is it that a "Stable Genius" like Donald Trump, the greatest President who every lived, couldn't do it in an entire year? All of the other leaders every other First World country managed to get the job done, making Trump look even worse.

Think about it. By every economic measure, Donald Trump failed to do as well as Barrack Obama - the guy he called the "Worst President in History". Deficits up, trade deficit up by over $200 billion, half the stock market growth of Obama's first term. The list is endless. Now a guy you call "Veggie Joe" is doing something Trump tried and failed to do for an entire year.

The media doesn't make Donald Trump look bad. Trump's endless list of failures goes on and on. Starting with 500,000 dead. That will be the millstone history hangs around the neck of the twice impeached, criminal you think is the greatest president ever.

This is why you're an idiot.

Democrats are so sleazy, they try to take credit for the accomplishment of Republicans. They also try to blame the GOP for their monumental f-ups like Psaki the yesterday blaming the border (non)-crisis on the Trump administration.

What accomplishments would those be? The total destruction of the American economy? The worst covid19 response in the world? The most people imprisoned of any country in the world? The highest rates of murder in the First World? The greatest Wealth Inequity in the First World?

Which Republican accomplishments would you like to tout first?

 

[Nostra]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

And you're still kazzing...

Debt to the Penny | U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data

Debt to the Penny is the total debt of the U.S. government and is reported daily. It is made up of intragovernmental holdings and debt held by the public.

www.treasurydirect.gov

Veggie Joe isn't President?

You really need to get caught up, Stupid.

 

[kaz]

Of course it's not. Democrats blamed W for every day of his eight year term, six months before he went into office, even before he was elected when the recession started under Clinton,

The Great BUSH recession began Dec 2007, Clinton was NOT president then.

So if I can show you quotes by Democrats from before that, you'll call them ignorant mother fuckers because you as you said believe in "truth" and that's "truth?"

Kazzer, there was no recession under Clinton...

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

Do you ever stop kazzing?

Ever???

Bill Clinton accepts responsibility for the recession.

In October 2008, I posted a column ("Robert Rubin's Free Ride") complaining that the economic tailspin then underway had done astonishingly little to...

slate.com

LOL

Who knows how demented you have to be to think that means there was a recession under Clinton when there wasn't?

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

I realize you don't know this because you're stupid, but you're banking on an actually extremely narrow argument.

- The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters. This is commonly used as a standard, but only for laypeople such as yourself. There is no economic theory behind it. It just makes a simple chart for simpletons. You know, you.

- The 3Q of 2000 was originally negative which means the recession started then. But it was revised to be a tiny bit positive, which got Clinton off the technical hook.

No one in economics would think that tiny adjustment from negative to tiny positive had any actual economic meaning.

You really just keep showing how ignorant you are despite all the bluster

LOL

You can't kaz your way out of this. I don't know what the original GDP was before it was revised, but regardless of what 2000Q3 GDP was, that period is now:

2000Q1: 1.5​

2000Q2: 7.5​

2000Q3: 0.5​

2000Q4: 2.5​

2001Q1: -1.1​

I doubt Q4 was negative but revised to 2.5 and I'm certain Q2, at 7.5, was never negative.

So you don't have 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth, which leads us to your next kaz...

The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters.

No, 2 out of 3 negative quarters is not the common definition in economics for a recession. At least 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth is...

What happens in a recession? | John Hancock Investment Mgmt

Recessions are neither common nor rare. Some predictions of them prove inaccurate. Other times recessions can result in significant damage to the economy and markets.

www.jhinvestments.com

​

What is a recession?​

​

A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

​

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

But even that isn't the methodology employed by the NBER...

Business Cycle Dating Procedure: Frequently Asked Questions

www.nber.org

​

Q: What is a recession? What is an expansion?​

​

A: The NBER's traditional definition of a recession is that it is a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and that lasts more than a few months. The committee's view is that while each of the three criteria—depth, diffusion, and duration—needs to be met individually to some degree, extreme conditions revealed by one criterion may partially offset weaker indications from another.​

​

God you're stupid. The common definition of a recession is TWO out of THREE negative quarters. I've told you that like half a dozen times in THIS DISCUSSION dumb ass. Look at your chart. That means that with 3Q2000 being negative that made it the start of a recession.

The number was revised and it went to the start was 1Q2021. But 3Q2000 was still a shit quarter that was virtually zero. You realize the 0.5 was annual rate, which made growth that quarter a tiny fraction of a percent.

But again, even with your lack of economic knowledge, you're claiming a recession that started as W entered office was not Clinton, which is butt stupid. W was a terrible President, but even he couldn't pull that off

Shit, I even gave you the definition. I didn't make one up like you did....

What is a recession?​

​

A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

​

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

​

[emphasis added to highlight Kaz's kaz]​

And again, I am not the one making the claim the recession started in March, 2001. The NBER is the one making that claim. I'm the one echoing their claim.

Hysterically, you think you know better than the NBER.

Yawn. I already told you there isn't a single measurement of a "recession" in economics, porky. You're just proving again you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Nostra]

Biden has a higher Stock Market than Trump managed in FOUR YEARS of trying

Trump had a much higher stock market than Obama after EIGHT YEARS of trying.

Dumb ass
We are talking about TODAY

And the RECORD Biden Economy

You are a deeply disturbed idiot. Trump doubled Obama's DOW and halved his unemployment. It's one thing to be a mindless hack and another to be a disingenuous prick (not that they're mutually exclusive).

No Stupid! Obama TRIPLED the DOW. He DOUBLED it in his first term. Trump only raised the DOW by 50%. He did half as well as Obama in his first term - and that was BEFORE the pandemic.

As for unemployment, job creation was substantially lower under Trump before the pandemic, and Trump LEFT office with the worst unemployement in a decade.

Dow the day Barry took office : 7949

The day Barry started his second term: 13,649

7949 x 2 = 15,898

Your first claim is a lie.

As far as Barry ”tripling“ the debt, the DOW would have to have been at 23,847 when Barry left office.

It was: 19,827.

Just proved your second claim to be a lie Dragonlady

you are a KKKanadian lying sack of shit.

It's also true the Dow, which had fallen from 14165 to 7949 by inauguration day, continued to fall until it bottomed out at 6627 in March, 2009. So yeah, under Obama, the Dow tripled under Obama from 6627 to 19827.

Just because Barry tanked the DOW in his first few months doesn't mean he wasn't handed the DOW at 7949, Stupid.

Nice try.

First few months??

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con?

Yes, first few months. According to your number, Barry tanked the Dow over 1300 pts from late Jan to March.

You are a special kind of stupid.

Dumbfuck, 6½ weeks is not a "few months." It's not even 2 months. Regardless of your lies, the Dow collapsed from 14K+ to about 6600 due to Bush's Great Recession. It then tripled by the time Obama left office.

Even better. Barry crashed the market in under two months.

Boy, did he suck sweaty donkey balls.

And no, you don't get to have it both ways...................can't blame Bush for Barry's crash then try to give credit to Veggie Joe for Trump's rising Dow.

You clowns are too easy.

LOLOL

He crashed a market that began crashing more than a year before he became president?? You're even crazier than I thought.

Can't have it both ways, Stupid.

LOLOL

Tell me again, rightard, how Obama crashed a market that began crashing before he was president......

You funny.

Tell me how Veggie Joe caused the market to go up that was going up for months before he took office?

You are beyond stupid.

The same way many on the right claimed the same about Trump 4 years ago -- his mere presence inspired the market.

Like Barry's mere presence tanked the market?

Got it.

LOL

Tanks a market that began tanking more than a year earlier? Seems you think Obama had great powers.

When it comes to fucking things up, only Veggie Joe is better than Barry Hussein.

"Veggie Joe" has already done more to get the pandemic under control in 50 days, than Donald Trump did in the entire year before him. It truly demonstrates what a pathetic failure Donald Trump really was as President.

I mean if "Veggie Joe" can stop the rate of disease and death, and get the country back on the road to recovery, both health-wise, and economically in just 50 days, how is it that a "Stable Genius" like Donald Trump, the greatest President who every lived, couldn't do it in an entire year? All of the other leaders every other First World country managed to get the job done, making Trump look even worse.

Think about it. By every economic measure, Donald Trump failed to do as well as Barrack Obama - the guy he called the "Worst President in History". Deficits up, trade deficit up by over $200 billion, half the stock market growth of Obama's first term. The list is endless. Now a guy you call "Veggie Joe" is doing something Trump tried and failed to do for an entire year.

The media doesn't make Donald Trump look bad. Trump's endless list of failures goes on and on. Starting with 500,000 dead. That will be the millstone history hangs around the neck of the twice impeached, criminal you think is the greatest president ever.

This is why you're an idiot.

Democrats are so sleazy, they try to take credit for the accomplishment of Republicans. They also try to blame the GOP for their monumental f-ups like Psaki the yesterday blaming the border (non)-crisis on the Trump administration.

What accomplishments would those be? The total destruction of the American economy? The worst covid19 response in the world? The most people imprisoned of any country in the world? The highest rates of murder in the First World? The greatest Wealth Inequity in the First World?

Which Republican accomplishments would you like to tout first?

Links to back up all your claims?

WAtch this..................

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb

LIAR as usual!
UE Jan 10,130,000
UE Feb 9,972,000
DOWN over 100,000

Yeah, do you know what that is? It's 1%. It went from 6.3% to 6.2%. Wow. Let me put on my seat belt for the ride.

 

[kaz]

Yes, the first Bush recession, the one that started six months before he took office, even before he was elected. That's the one.

The First BUSH Recession started MARCH 2001. Only in TrumpTard land is March 2001 six months before BUSH took office in Jan 2001.

You really don't read discussions, do you? I already explained this to Fawn. You needed it explained to you to?

But like Faun, let's go with your number.

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

 

[Dragonlady]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

I love it. Trump is a worse President than a guy you call "Veggie Joe". You're guy can't even beat a vegetable, that's how pathetic Trump really is.

A smart person, talks up the opposition, so that if they lose, well, the competition was formiddable, and well done. When you call the other side "Veggie Joe", and talk about how stupid the other side is, it makes you look like a real wimp when you can't even beat old "Veggie Joe".

Dementia Don just isn't that bright to begin with, so it's hardly surprising that his Cult members so often look like a brigade of "hockey helmet" kids.

 

[edthecynic]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

Dementia Don's Budget until Sept 30, 2021.

 

[Nostra]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

I love it. Trump is a worse President than a guy you call "Veggie Joe". You're guy can't even beat a vegetable, that's how pathetic Trump really is.

A smart person, talks up the opposition, so that if they lose, well, the competition was formiddable, and well done. When you call the other side "Veggie Joe", and talk about how stupid the other side is, it makes you look like a real wimp when you can't even beat old "Veggie Joe".

Dementia Don just isn't that bright to begin with, so it's hardly surprising that his Cult members so often look like a brigade of "hockey helmet" kids.

Dragonlady: A smart person, talks up the opposition, so that if they lose, well, the competition was formiddable, and well done.

Dragonlady: Dementia Don just isn't that bright to begin with.

Good to know you don't consider yourself to be a bright person. For once we can agree.

 

[Faun]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

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LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


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Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

LOL

Again, so what? Again, I didn't invent that methodology. I got it from Trump. G'head, keep crying that I waited until my second post on that to reveal it to you. It makes me laugh every time you tacitly confess I suckered you and you fell for it. I don't think I've seen many people here as proud of their ignorance as you are, parading it with such enthusiasm.

 

[Meathead]

Biden has a higher Stock Market than Trump managed in FOUR YEARS of trying

Trump had a much higher stock market than Obama after EIGHT YEARS of trying.

Dumb ass
We are talking about TODAY

And the RECORD Biden Economy

You are a deeply disturbed idiot. Trump doubled Obama's DOW and halved his unemployment. It's one thing to be a mindless hack and another to be a disingenuous prick (not that they're mutually exclusive).

No Stupid! Obama TRIPLED the DOW. He DOUBLED it in his first term. Trump only raised the DOW by 50%. He did half as well as Obama in his first term - and that was BEFORE the pandemic.

As for unemployment, job creation was substantially lower under Trump before the pandemic, and Trump LEFT office with the worst unemployement in a decade.

Dow the day Barry took office : 7949

The day Barry started his second term: 13,649

7949 x 2 = 15,898

Your first claim is a lie.

As far as Barry ”tripling“ the debt, the DOW would have to have been at 23,847 when Barry left office.

It was: 19,827.

Just proved your second claim to be a lie Dragonlady

you are a KKKanadian lying sack of shit.

It's also true the Dow, which had fallen from 14165 to 7949 by inauguration day, continued to fall until it bottomed out at 6627 in March, 2009. So yeah, under Obama, the Dow tripled under Obama from 6627 to 19827.

Just because Barry tanked the DOW in his first few months doesn't mean he wasn't handed the DOW at 7949, Stupid.

Nice try.

First few months??

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con?

Yes, first few months. According to your number, Barry tanked the Dow over 1300 pts from late Jan to March.

You are a special kind of stupid.

Dumbfuck, 6½ weeks is not a "few months." It's not even 2 months. Regardless of your lies, the Dow collapsed from 14K+ to about 6600 due to Bush's Great Recession. It then tripled by the time Obama left office.

Even better. Barry crashed the market in under two months.

Boy, did he suck sweaty donkey balls.

And no, you don't get to have it both ways...................can't blame Bush for Barry's crash then try to give credit to Veggie Joe for Trump's rising Dow.

You clowns are too easy.

LOLOL

He crashed a market that began crashing more than a year before he became president?? You're even crazier than I thought.

Can't have it both ways, Stupid.

LOLOL

Tell me again, rightard, how Obama crashed a market that began crashing before he was president......

You funny.

Tell me how Veggie Joe caused the market to go up that was going up for months before he took office?

You are beyond stupid.

The same way many on the right claimed the same about Trump 4 years ago -- his mere presence inspired the market.

Like Barry's mere presence tanked the market?

Got it.

LOL

Tanks a market that began tanking more than a year earlier? Seems you think Obama had great powers.

When it comes to fucking things up, only Veggie Joe is better than Barry Hussein.

"Veggie Joe" has already done more to get the pandemic under control in 50 days, than Donald Trump did in the entire year before him. It truly demonstrates what a pathetic failure Donald Trump really was as President.

I mean if "Veggie Joe" can stop the rate of disease and death, and get the country back on the road to recovery, both health-wise, and economically in just 50 days, how is it that a "Stable Genius" like Donald Trump, the greatest President who every lived, couldn't do it in an entire year? All of the other leaders every other First World country managed to get the job done, making Trump look even worse.

Think about it. By every economic measure, Donald Trump failed to do as well as Barrack Obama - the guy he called the "Worst President in History". Deficits up, trade deficit up by over $200 billion, half the stock market growth of Obama's first term. The list is endless. Now a guy you call "Veggie Joe" is doing something Trump tried and failed to do for an entire year.

The media doesn't make Donald Trump look bad. Trump's endless list of failures goes on and on. Starting with 500,000 dead. That will be the millstone history hangs around the neck of the twice impeached, criminal you think is the greatest president ever.

This is why you're an idiot.

Democrats are so sleazy, they try to take credit for the accomplishment of Republicans. They also try to blame the GOP for their monumental f-ups like Psaki the yesterday blaming the border (non)-crisis on the Trump administration.

What accomplishments would those be? The total destruction of the American economy? The worst covid19 response in the world? The most people imprisoned of any country in the world? The highest rates of murder in the First World? The greatest Wealth Inequity in the First World?

Which Republican accomplishments would you like to tout first?

Record employment, stock market, booming economy, Trump vaccine, winning the Cold War, securing the border and beating the Beast. That just for starters. Can't get better than that.

 

[Nostra]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

Dementia Don's Budget until Sept 30, 2021.

Cool.

So you are saying Trump created the best economy in history.

Thanks.

But Veggie Joe just rang up $2 TRILLION in debt in under 2 months. That's not on Trump.