Biden already created the best economy EVER

[Faun]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

And you're still kazzing...

Debt to the Penny | U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data

Debt to the Penny is the total debt of the U.S. government and is reported daily. It is made up of intragovernmental holdings and debt held by the public.

www.treasurydirect.gov

Veggie Joe isn't President?

You really need to get caught up, Stupid.

Who said Biden isn't president???

Are you posting while drunk again??

 

[edthecynic]

Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb

LIAR as usual!
UE Jan 10,130,000
UE Feb 9,972,000
DOWN over 100,000

Yeah, do you know what that is? It's 1%. It went from 6.3% to 6.2%. Wow. Let me put on my seat belt for the ride.

Thank you for admitting you LIED when you said UE didn't change.

 

[Nostra]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

LOL

Again, so what? Again, I didn't invent that methodology. I got it from Trump. G'head, keep crying that I waited until my second post on that to reveal it to you. It makes me laugh every time you tacitly confess I suckered you and you fell for it. I don't think I've seen many people here as proud of their ignorance as you are, parading it with such enthusiasm.

It was YOUR claim, Stupid.

43% unemployment!

 

[edthecynic]

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

He learned from his daddy.

 

[rightwinger]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

LOL

Again, so what? Again, I didn't invent that methodology. I got it from Trump. G'head, keep crying that I waited until my second post on that to reveal it to you. It makes me laugh every time you tacitly confess I suckered you and you fell for it. I don't think I've seen many people here as proud of their ignorance as you are, parading it with such enthusiasm.

It was YOUR claim, Stupid.

43% unemployment!

Actually, 55 percent were not employed under Trump

 

[Faun]

Of course it's not. Democrats blamed W for every day of his eight year term, six months before he went into office, even before he was elected when the recession started under Clinton,

The Great BUSH recession began Dec 2007, Clinton was NOT president then.

So if I can show you quotes by Democrats from before that, you'll call them ignorant mother fuckers because you as you said believe in "truth" and that's "truth?"

Kazzer, there was no recession under Clinton...

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

Do you ever stop kazzing?

Ever???

Bill Clinton accepts responsibility for the recession.

In October 2008, I posted a column ("Robert Rubin's Free Ride") complaining that the economic tailspin then underway had done astonishingly little to...

slate.com

LOL

Who knows how demented you have to be to think that means there was a recession under Clinton when there wasn't?

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

I realize you don't know this because you're stupid, but you're banking on an actually extremely narrow argument.

- The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters. This is commonly used as a standard, but only for laypeople such as yourself. There is no economic theory behind it. It just makes a simple chart for simpletons. You know, you.

- The 3Q of 2000 was originally negative which means the recession started then. But it was revised to be a tiny bit positive, which got Clinton off the technical hook.

No one in economics would think that tiny adjustment from negative to tiny positive had any actual economic meaning.

You really just keep showing how ignorant you are despite all the bluster

LOL

You can't kaz your way out of this. I don't know what the original GDP was before it was revised, but regardless of what 2000Q3 GDP was, that period is now:

2000Q1: 1.5​

2000Q2: 7.5​

2000Q3: 0.5​

2000Q4: 2.5​

2001Q1: -1.1​

I doubt Q4 was negative but revised to 2.5 and I'm certain Q2, at 7.5, was never negative.

So you don't have 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth, which leads us to your next kaz...

The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters.

No, 2 out of 3 negative quarters is not the common definition in economics for a recession. At least 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth is...

What happens in a recession? | John Hancock Investment Mgmt

Recessions are neither common nor rare. Some predictions of them prove inaccurate. Other times recessions can result in significant damage to the economy and markets.

www.jhinvestments.com

​

What is a recession?​

​

A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

​

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

But even that isn't the methodology employed by the NBER...

Business Cycle Dating Procedure: Frequently Asked Questions

www.nber.org

​

Q: What is a recession? What is an expansion?​

​

A: The NBER's traditional definition of a recession is that it is a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and that lasts more than a few months. The committee's view is that while each of the three criteria—depth, diffusion, and duration—needs to be met individually to some degree, extreme conditions revealed by one criterion may partially offset weaker indications from another.​

​

God you're stupid. The common definition of a recession is TWO out of THREE negative quarters. I've told you that like half a dozen times in THIS DISCUSSION dumb ass. Look at your chart. That means that with 3Q2000 being negative that made it the start of a recession.

The number was revised and it went to the start was 1Q2021. But 3Q2000 was still a shit quarter that was virtually zero. You realize the 0.5 was annual rate, which made growth that quarter a tiny fraction of a percent.

But again, even with your lack of economic knowledge, you're claiming a recession that started as W entered office was not Clinton, which is butt stupid. W was a terrible President, but even he couldn't pull that off

Shit, I even gave you the definition. I didn't make one up like you did....

What is a recession?​

​

A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

​

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

​

[emphasis added to highlight Kaz's kaz]​

And again, I am not the one making the claim the recession started in March, 2001. The NBER is the one making that claim. I'm the one echoing their claim.

Hysterically, you think you know better than the NBER.

Yawn. I already told you there isn't a single measurement of a "recession" in economics, porky. You're just proving again you don't know what you're talking about.

LOL

Moron, I posted the NBER methodology. After all, they are the authoritative voice when it comes to declaring recessions. And even they show you're kazzing. There was no recession when Bush was sworn in.

 

[Nostra]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

LOL

Again, so what? Again, I didn't invent that methodology. I got it from Trump. G'head, keep crying that I waited until my second post on that to reveal it to you. It makes me laugh every time you tacitly confess I suckered you and you fell for it. I don't think I've seen many people here as proud of their ignorance as you are, parading it with such enthusiasm.

It was YOUR claim, Stupid.

43% unemployment!

Actually, 55 percent were not employed under Trump

150,239 employed in Feb under Veggie Joe.

Using your methodology, 55% ARE NOT employed under Veggie Joe.

 

[Faun]

Yes, the first Bush recession, the one that started six months before he took office, even before he was elected. That's the one.

The First BUSH Recession started MARCH 2001. Only in TrumpTard land is March 2001 six months before BUSH took office in Jan 2001.

You really don't read discussions, do you? I already explained this to Fawn. You needed it explained to you to?

But like Faun, let's go with your number.

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

It's been explained. It's possible the economic decline would have been too mild to qualify as a recession. 9/11 clearly deepened the contraction & may have been an important factor in turning it into a recession.

 

[rightwinger]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

View attachment 468410

LOL



You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

View attachment 468411

Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

View attachment 468412

Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

​

You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


View attachment 468430

Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

LOL

Again, so what? Again, I didn't invent that methodology. I got it from Trump. G'head, keep crying that I waited until my second post on that to reveal it to you. It makes me laugh every time you tacitly confess I suckered you and you fell for it. I don't think I've seen many people here as proud of their ignorance as you are, parading it with such enthusiasm.

It was YOUR claim, Stupid.

43% unemployment!

Actually, 55 percent were not employed under Trump

150,239 employed in Feb under Veggie Joe.

Using your methodology, 55% ARE NOT employed under Veggie Joe.

The only thing that helped Trump was 500,000 died from TRUMPvirus

Lower denominator

 

[kaz]

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

He learned from his daddy.

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

 

[kaz]

Of course it's not. Democrats blamed W for every day of his eight year term, six months before he went into office, even before he was elected when the recession started under Clinton,

The Great BUSH recession began Dec 2007, Clinton was NOT president then.

So if I can show you quotes by Democrats from before that, you'll call them ignorant mother fuckers because you as you said believe in "truth" and that's "truth?"

Kazzer, there was no recession under Clinton...

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

Do you ever stop kazzing?

Ever???

Bill Clinton accepts responsibility for the recession.

In October 2008, I posted a column ("Robert Rubin's Free Ride") complaining that the economic tailspin then underway had done astonishingly little to...

slate.com

LOL

Who knows how demented you have to be to think that means there was a recession under Clinton when there wasn't?

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

I realize you don't know this because you're stupid, but you're banking on an actually extremely narrow argument.

- The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters. This is commonly used as a standard, but only for laypeople such as yourself. There is no economic theory behind it. It just makes a simple chart for simpletons. You know, you.

- The 3Q of 2000 was originally negative which means the recession started then. But it was revised to be a tiny bit positive, which got Clinton off the technical hook.

No one in economics would think that tiny adjustment from negative to tiny positive had any actual economic meaning.

You really just keep showing how ignorant you are despite all the bluster

LOL

You can't kaz your way out of this. I don't know what the original GDP was before it was revised, but regardless of what 2000Q3 GDP was, that period is now:

2000Q1: 1.5​

2000Q2: 7.5​

2000Q3: 0.5​

2000Q4: 2.5​

2001Q1: -1.1​

I doubt Q4 was negative but revised to 2.5 and I'm certain Q2, at 7.5, was never negative.

So you don't have 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth, which leads us to your next kaz...

The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters.

No, 2 out of 3 negative quarters is not the common definition in economics for a recession. At least 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth is...

What happens in a recession? | John Hancock Investment Mgmt

Recessions are neither common nor rare. Some predictions of them prove inaccurate. Other times recessions can result in significant damage to the economy and markets.

www.jhinvestments.com

​

What is a recession?​

​

A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

​

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

But even that isn't the methodology employed by the NBER...

Business Cycle Dating Procedure: Frequently Asked Questions

www.nber.org

​

Q: What is a recession? What is an expansion?​

​

A: The NBER's traditional definition of a recession is that it is a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and that lasts more than a few months. The committee's view is that while each of the three criteria—depth, diffusion, and duration—needs to be met individually to some degree, extreme conditions revealed by one criterion may partially offset weaker indications from another.​

​

God you're stupid. The common definition of a recession is TWO out of THREE negative quarters. I've told you that like half a dozen times in THIS DISCUSSION dumb ass. Look at your chart. That means that with 3Q2000 being negative that made it the start of a recession.

The number was revised and it went to the start was 1Q2021. But 3Q2000 was still a shit quarter that was virtually zero. You realize the 0.5 was annual rate, which made growth that quarter a tiny fraction of a percent.

But again, even with your lack of economic knowledge, you're claiming a recession that started as W entered office was not Clinton, which is butt stupid. W was a terrible President, but even he couldn't pull that off

Shit, I even gave you the definition. I didn't make one up like you did....

What is a recession?​

​

A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

​

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

​

[emphasis added to highlight Kaz's kaz]​

And again, I am not the one making the claim the recession started in March, 2001. The NBER is the one making that claim. I'm the one echoing their claim.

Hysterically, you think you know better than the NBER.

Yawn. I already told you there isn't a single measurement of a "recession" in economics, porky. You're just proving again you don't know what you're talking about.

LOL

Moron, I posted the NBER methodology. After all, they are the authoritative voice when it comes to declaring recessions. And even they show you're kazzing. There was no recession when Bush was sworn in.

No one owns the definition of a recession, you stupid jackass

 

[Faun]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

Dementia Don's Budget until Sept 30, 2021.

Explain that to kaz. He actually thinks we were still operating under Clinton's FY2001 budget, which expired at the end of September, 2001, in "November, 2001."

November 2001 was still under Clinton's budget.

 

[kaz]

Yes, the first Bush recession, the one that started six months before he took office, even before he was elected. That's the one.

The First BUSH Recession started MARCH 2001. Only in TrumpTard land is March 2001 six months before BUSH took office in Jan 2001.

You really don't read discussions, do you? I already explained this to Fawn. You needed it explained to you to?

But like Faun, let's go with your number.

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

It's been explained. It's possible the economic decline would have been too mild to qualify as a recession. 9/11 clearly deepened the contraction & may have been an important factor in turning it into a recession.

What Bush did wasn't relevant to that Clinton left the economy in a recession.

You can't explain how a new president caused a recession in one month in office, the answer is they can't, shit for brains

 

[kaz]

Debt hit an all time high yesterday.

Thank you Dementia Don Tramp!

Veggie Joe's watch.

Dementia Don's Budget until Sept 30, 2021.

Explain that to kaz. He actually thinks we were still operating under Clinton's FY2001 budget, which expired at the end of September, 2001, in "November, 2001."

November 2001 was still under Clinton's budget.

OK, bickering little boy

 

[Faun]

A quote by Trump isn't BLS data, you fucking moron.

You really couldn't get any dumber if you tried.

LOLOL

Of course it's not. That's why a clearly stated while the BLS reported the unemployment rate was 5.2%, Trump claimed that figure is a joke and that the real unemployment rate could be as high as 42%.

You never learn, do ya, dumbfuck?

You didn't say anything about Trump in your original post claiming 43% unemployment, Liar.

It's always fun to shove your own lies up your ass, liar.

Here ya go:

Deficits don’t matter ....Reagan proved that

Biden has the greatest economy in history. After only two months

The stock market is not the economy. Unemployment didn't change between Jan and Feb, and we won't get the March report until early April.

The unemployment didn't change? WTF are you talking about? The real unemployment rate was about 43% under Trump. Now the BLS reports it's 6.2%.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed under Trump

Jan 2017	4.7	4.2	4.3	14.9	4.2	7.4	3.7	5.8
Feb 2017	4.6	4.2	4.2	14.7	4.0	8.0	3.4	5.6
Mar 2017	4.4	4.2	4.0	13.7	3.9	7.9	3.3	5.0
Apr 2017	4.5	4.0	4.2	14.9	3.9	7.8	3.3	5.2
May 2017	4.4	3.9	4.1	13.9	3.8	7.6	3.6	5.2
June 2017	4.3	4.0	4.0	12.4	3.8	7.1	3.7	5.0
July 2017	4.3	4.0	3.9	12.1	3.7	7.2	3.8	5.1
Aug 2017	4.4	4.1	3.9	13.8	3.9	7.5	3.9	5.1
Sept 2017	4.2	3.9	3.9	13.2	3.7	7.2	3.6	5.1
Oct 2017	4.1	3.8	3.7	14.2	3.6	7.6	3.0	5.0
Nov 2017	4.2	3.8	3.7	16.5	3.7	7.5	3.0	4.9
Dec 2017	4.1	3.8	3.8	14.1	3.7	6.9	2.5	5.0
Jan 2018	4.0	3.7	3.6	14.0	3.5	7.5	3.0	4.9
Feb 2018	4.1	3.6	3.8	14.5	3.6	6.8	2.9	4.9
Mar 2018	4.0	3.6	3.7	13.4	3.5	6.6	3.1	4.9
Apr 2018	4.0	3.8	3.6	13.3	3.6	6.5	2.9	4.8
May 2018	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.5	3.5	5.8	2.2	4.8
June 2018	4.0	3.7	3.7	11.2	3.5	6.5	3.3	4.6
July 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.0	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.5
Aug 2018	3.8	3.5	3.5	12.6	3.4	6.2	2.9	4.7
Sept 2018	3.7	3.5	3.3	12.7	3.3	6.2	3.5	4.6
Oct 2018	3.8	3.5	3.4	12.5	3.3	6.4	3.1	4.4
Nov 2018	3.8	3.4	3.5	12.9	3.4	6.2	2.8	4.6
Dec 2018	3.9	3.6	3.5	13.1	3.4	6.8	3.3	4.5
Jan 2019	4.0	3.6	3.6	13.2	3.5	6.9	3.0	4.8
Feb 2019	3.8	3.4	3.4	13.9	3.2	7.0	3.1	4.3
Mar 2019	3.8	3.6	3.4	12.7	3.3	6.5	3.1	4.5
Apr 2019	3.7	3.5	3.2	13.4	3.2	6.6	2.3	4.1
May 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.3	3.3	6.1	2.5	4.1
June 2019	3.6	3.3	3.3	11.4	3.3	6.0	2.2	4.3
July 2019	3.6	3.4	3.3	12.0	3.3	5.6	2.8	4.4
Aug 2019	3.7	3.4	3.3	12.4	3.4	5.2	2.8	4.2
Sept 2019	3.5	3.3	3.0	12.5	3.2	5.4	2.5	4.0
Oct 2019	3.6	3.3	3.2	12.6	3.3	5.6	2.9	4.2
Nov 2019	3.6	3.2	3.3	12.5	3.3	5.7	2.6	4.3
Dec 2019	3.6	3.1	3.3	13.0	3.1	6.2	2.6	4.3
Jan 2020	3.5	3.1	3.2	12.6	3.0	6.1	3.1	4.3
Feb 2020	3.5	3.2	3.1	11.5	3.0	6.0	2.4	4.4
Mar 2020	4.4	4.1	4.0	14.1	3.9	6.8	4.1	6.0
Apr 2020	14.8	13.1	15.5	32.1	14.1	16.7	14.5	18.9
May 2020	13.3	11.6	13.9	29.6	12.3	16.7	14.9	17.6
June 2020	11.1	10.2	11.3	22.6	10.1	15.3	13.9	14.5
July 2020	10.2	9.4	10.4	19.1	9.2	14.4	11.9	12.7
Aug 2020	8.4	8.0	8.3	16.4	7.4	12.8	10.6	10.5
Sept 2020	7.8	7.3	7.7	16.3	7.0	12.0	8.8	10.3
Oct 2020	6.9	6.7	6.5	14.0	6.0	10.8	7.6	8.8
Nov 2020	6.7	6.6	6.2	13.9	5.9	10.3	6.7	8.4
Dec 2020	6.7	6.4	6.3	16.0	6.0	9.9	5.9	9.3
Jan 2021	6.3	6.0	6.0	14.8	5.7	9.2	6.6	8.6

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You believe those fake employment numbers? Don’t you realize Trump lied about EVERYTHING?

Over 50 percent of Americans were not employed in the Trump Economy

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Trump is showing the wrong finger.

Over 50 percent of Americans were not working and Trump laughed about it

Hmmmmm....

Who to believe on unemployment numbers..................BLS or a single digit IQ innerweb troll...............

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Trump employment figures?
You know they are FAKE

You do the math

156 million in the workforce out of 330 million Americans
That is LESS than 50 percent actually working

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Seems you are too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated, Troll.

LOLOLOL

"our real unemployment–because you have ninety million people that aren’t working. Ninety-three million to be exact. If you start adding it up, our real unemployment rate is 42%." ~ Donald "too stupid to figure out how the unemployment number is calculated" Trump​

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You think the unemployment rate was 43% under Trump, so how stupid does that make you?


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Again, I'm using his methodology. That makes him stupid (you said so yourself) whereas I'm just highlighting his stupidity and enjoying watching you play along, unwittingly, albeit.

Again.............

You didn't say you were using Trump's methodology when you made the claim, liar.

YOU think unemployment was 43%.

Again...

LOLOLOL

So what? I still told you where the number comes from. And I "think" the unemployment rate was 43% because I used Trump's methodology.

YOU claimed unemployment under Trump was 43%.

YOU made the claim. You didn't ascribe it to anyone else.

LOL

Again, so what? Again, I didn't invent that methodology. I got it from Trump. G'head, keep crying that I waited until my second post on that to reveal it to you. It makes me laugh every time you tacitly confess I suckered you and you fell for it. I don't think I've seen many people here as proud of their ignorance as you are, parading it with such enthusiasm.

It was YOUR claim, Stupid.

43% unemployment!

LOL

That I got using Trump's methodology.

 

[Indeependent]

How many are children or still in school?
How many are spouses who don’t need to work?
How many are retired?
How many have no skill set?

Who cares?
They are either employed or not employed

You're an idiot.
You're trying to blame Trump for massive unemployment without having the numbers to back it up.

 

[Genclebune]

I had to close my business and lay off many because of Democrats

 

[Faun]

Of course it's not. Democrats blamed W for every day of his eight year term, six months before he went into office, even before he was elected when the recession started under Clinton,

The Great BUSH recession began Dec 2007, Clinton was NOT president then.

So if I can show you quotes by Democrats from before that, you'll call them ignorant mother fuckers because you as you said believe in "truth" and that's "truth?"

Kazzer, there was no recession under Clinton...

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

Do you ever stop kazzing?

Ever???

Bill Clinton accepts responsibility for the recession.

In October 2008, I posted a column ("Robert Rubin's Free Ride") complaining that the economic tailspin then underway had done astonishingly little to...

slate.com

LOL

Who knows how demented you have to be to think that means there was a recession under Clinton when there wasn't?

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

I realize you don't know this because you're stupid, but you're banking on an actually extremely narrow argument.

- The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters. This is commonly used as a standard, but only for laypeople such as yourself. There is no economic theory behind it. It just makes a simple chart for simpletons. You know, you.

- The 3Q of 2000 was originally negative which means the recession started then. But it was revised to be a tiny bit positive, which got Clinton off the technical hook.

No one in economics would think that tiny adjustment from negative to tiny positive had any actual economic meaning.

You really just keep showing how ignorant you are despite all the bluster

LOL

You can't kaz your way out of this. I don't know what the original GDP was before it was revised, but regardless of what 2000Q3 GDP was, that period is now:

2000Q1: 1.5​

2000Q2: 7.5​

2000Q3: 0.5​

2000Q4: 2.5​

2001Q1: -1.1​

I doubt Q4 was negative but revised to 2.5 and I'm certain Q2, at 7.5, was never negative.

So you don't have 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth, which leads us to your next kaz...

The common definition in economics for a recession is 2 out of 3 negative quarters.

No, 2 out of 3 negative quarters is not the common definition in economics for a recession. At least 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth is...

What happens in a recession? | John Hancock Investment Mgmt

Recessions are neither common nor rare. Some predictions of them prove inaccurate. Other times recessions can result in significant damage to the economy and markets.

www.jhinvestments.com

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What is a recession?​

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A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

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The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

But even that isn't the methodology employed by the NBER...

Business Cycle Dating Procedure: Frequently Asked Questions

www.nber.org

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Q: What is a recession? What is an expansion?​

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A: The NBER's traditional definition of a recession is that it is a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and that lasts more than a few months. The committee's view is that while each of the three criteria—depth, diffusion, and duration—needs to be met individually to some degree, extreme conditions revealed by one criterion may partially offset weaker indications from another.​

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God you're stupid. The common definition of a recession is TWO out of THREE negative quarters. I've told you that like half a dozen times in THIS DISCUSSION dumb ass. Look at your chart. That means that with 3Q2000 being negative that made it the start of a recession.

The number was revised and it went to the start was 1Q2021. But 3Q2000 was still a shit quarter that was virtually zero. You realize the 0.5 was annual rate, which made growth that quarter a tiny fraction of a percent.

But again, even with your lack of economic knowledge, you're claiming a recession that started as W entered office was not Clinton, which is butt stupid. W was a terrible President, but even he couldn't pull that off

Shit, I even gave you the definition. I didn't make one up like you did....

What is a recession?​

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A common definition is two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, but this isn’t necessary for the economy to be in a recession. A recession just needs to be a contraction of the economy, featuring shrinking production and consumption, higher unemployment, and (sometimes) lower price levels.​

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The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a leading economic think tank founded in 1920, is the generally recognized authority in the United States when it comes to declaring a recession. It calls a recession “a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP (Gross Domestic Product), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.”¹​

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[emphasis added to highlight Kaz's kaz]​

And again, I am not the one making the claim the recession started in March, 2001. The NBER is the one making that claim. I'm the one echoing their claim.

Hysterically, you think you know better than the NBER.

Yawn. I already told you there isn't a single measurement of a "recession" in economics, porky. You're just proving again you don't know what you're talking about.

LOL

Moron, I posted the NBER methodology. After all, they are the authoritative voice when it comes to declaring recessions. And even they show you're kazzing. There was no recession when Bush was sworn in.

No one owns the definition of a recession, you stupid jackass

LOL

You're such a retard. I didn't say the NBER owns it. I showed you what they use and they are the authoritative voice when it comes to declaring recessions; so it's their methodoloy which determines recessions, not yours. Which by the way, you haven't even proven exists. Here's another source...

Recession: What Is It and What Causes It

A recession is a significant decline in economic activity that lasts longer than a few months.

www.investopedia.com

A recession is a macroeconomic term that refers to a significant decline in general economic activity in a designated region. It had been typically recognized as two consecutive quarters of economic decline, as reflected by GDP in conjunction with monthly indicators such as a rise in unemployment. However, the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which officially declares recessions, says the two consecutive quarters of decline in real GDP are not how it is defined anymore. The NBER defines a recession as a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.​

 

[edthecynic]

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

He learned from his daddy.

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

I don't need to explain anything, history recorded the First BUSH Recession began March 2001.

 

[Faun]

Yes, the first Bush recession, the one that started six months before he took office, even before he was elected. That's the one.

The First BUSH Recession started MARCH 2001. Only in TrumpTard land is March 2001 six months before BUSH took office in Jan 2001.

You really don't read discussions, do you? I already explained this to Fawn. You needed it explained to you to?

But like Faun, let's go with your number.

Explain how W caused a recession ... one month after he took office. Dumb ass

It's been explained. It's possible the economic decline would have been too mild to qualify as a recession. 9/11 clearly deepened the contraction & may have been an important factor in turning it into a recession.

What Bush did wasn't relevant to that Clinton left the economy in a recession.

You can't explain how a new president caused a recession in one month in office, the answer is they can't, shit for brains

You're kazzing again. Again, Clinton didn't leave Bush a recession.

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

And it's been explained to you repeatedly... it's possible the economic decline would have been too mild to qualify as a recession. 9/11 clearly deepened the contraction & may have been an important factor in turning it into a recession.

No one cares that you want to use your own definition of a recession that's different than the NBER's. You're a nobody while the NBER is the authoritative voice when it comes to declaring recessions. And they say there was no recession when Bush was sworn in. What you say means nothing compared to them.