CDZ Big Government And Big Church Are Now The Same Thing

[Blues Man]

You should check the law as to who can officiate.

Whatever one thing I know is not no church's clergy should be given powers by the state.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Our ancestors escaped Europe to set up shop over here for that very reason. Is another 1776 moment needed again, to retake individual liberty, that is being eroded under the guise of religious freedom?

So your word is all you have?

 

[surada]

Whatever one thing I know is not no church's clergy should be given powers by the state.

When clergy officiates there's still the requirement for two witnesses. I thought you were married.

 

[Blues Man]

When clergy officiates there's still the requirement for two witnesses. I thought you were married.

So what?

The church should not have power to officiate any state business.

 

[surada]

So what?

The church should not have power to officiate any state business.

Well, for some couples marriage is a sacrament over and above the contract.

 

[Blues Man]

Well, for some couples marriage is a sacrament over and above the contract.

So what?

They can still have their religious ceremony but for the state to recognize their marriage they must also have a civil ceremony.

 

[JustAGuy1]

So what?

They can still have their religious ceremony but for the state to recognize their marriage they must also have a civil ceremony.

Too funny. Hate much?

 

[Blues Man]

Too funny. Hate much?

So you like the idea of the government passing laws that favor religions and giving them power to officiate state business?

If we can't have prayer is school why the hell should the government recognize any religious ceremonies?

 

[surada]

So what?

They can still have their religious ceremony but for the state to recognize their marriage they must also have a civil ceremony.

It would be wrong to tell couples they can't marry in church when the church also fulfills the statuary requirements of the marriage contract. When you marry in church it's the same as a civil ceremony but with blessings.

 

[Blues Man]

It would be wrong to tell couples they can't marry in church when the church also fulfills the statuary requirements of the marriage contract. When you marry in church it's the same as a civil ceremony but with blessings.

Never said they can't get married in a church did I?

Stop making shit up

 

[surada]

Never said they can't get married in a church did I?

Stop making shit up

You sign the same documents and have two witnesses either way.

 

[JustAGuy1]

So you like the idea of the government passing laws that favor religions and giving them power to officiate state business?

If we can't have prayer is school why the hell should the government recognize any religious ceremonies?

LOL. It is what it is so deal with it.

 

[Blues Man]

You sign the same documents and have two witnesses either way.

Irrelevant and FYI not all state require witnesses.

The points is no religious ceremony should be given any legal validity by the government.

Separation of church and state and all that other First Amendment stuff

 

[Blues Man]

LOL. It is what it is so deal with it.

Yeah so what if it violates the First Amendment

 

[surada]

Irrelevant and FYI not all state require witnesses.

The points is no religious ceremony should be given any legal validity by the government.

Separation of church and state and all that other First Amendment stuff

I'm pretty sure every state requires two witnesses. Which don't?

 

[surada]

Irrelevant and FYI not all state require witnesses.

The points is no religious ceremony should be given any legal validity by the government.

Separation of church and state and all that other First Amendment stuff

The clergy have to meet the state's requirements for the marriage contract.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Yeah so what if it violates the First Amendment

So getting married in a Church establishes a Religion? You're not a bright one.

 

[Oddball]

Too late for you to learn anything.

 

[Oddball]

The clergy have to meet the state's requirements for the marriage contract.

There is no "marriage contract"....Only the license.

You know nothing about contract law either.

 

[surada]

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Well, you're 61 and still don't know anything about domestic law. Instead you rail against the facts. You can't learn. You're like Trump.