Big Government & Ethics

[Skull]

Does the doling out of millions make theft easy? Seems to be the case...

Criminals have stolen nearly $100 billion in Covid relief funds, Secret Service says

 

[MarathonMike]

This is the fundamental problem with enormous government spending and giveaway programs. They are ALWAYS exploited and defrauded. That is true whether it is domestic spending or Foreign aid.

 

[BreezeWood]

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Big Government & Ethics​

if ss is unable to capture the criminals that stole 100 billion - it's not the criminals that are the issue.

oh, and of course - small gov't is better - is the answer.

 

[task0778]

Is it not obvious then, that more gov't spending means more fraud, waste, and abuse? Why aren't we as a nation more concerned with how our tax dollars are spent? Some of that money is borrowed and interest payments must be made, not only by us right now but also future generations will be paying for our profligate spending. I cannot understand why that isn't of concern. We used to want a better future for our kids, but apparently not anymore. How is any of this ethical by any standard?

 

[BreezeWood]

Is it not obvious then, that more gov't spending means more fraud, waste, and abuse? Why aren't we as a nation more concerned with how our tax dollars are spent? Some of that money is borrowed and interest payments must be made, not only by us right now but also future generations will be paying for our profligate spending. I cannot understand why that isn't of concern. We used to want a better future for our kids, but apparently not anymore. How is any of this ethical by any standard?

what spending -

ask the c republicans, they added 8 trillion to the debt and cut their taxes in only 4 years w/ trump - done all for the christians and their family values ... and somehow belongs in the religion / ethics forum - -

 

[task0778]

ask the c republicans, they added 8 trillion to the debt

Woulda been a lot higher if the democrats had their way during the Trump years.

cut their taxes in only 4 years w/ trump

The middle class got most of that, and the upper income people actually paid more in taxes AFTER the Trump tax cuts went into effect.

done all for the christians and their family values

BULLSHIT.

and somehow belongs in the religion / ethics forum - -

Ethics is included in this forum, gov't ethics is allowed. It is you that made this into a political argument.

what spending -

What spending do you think? Asinine question. Have you not been paying attention to the amount of spending the democrats have tried to do for the past 5 years? About DOUBLE what it ended up being, like the BBB Bill that recently got torpedoed. They originally wanted to spend about $3.5 trillion, which was analyzed and purported to actually cost approx $5 trillion. And but for Manchin and Sinema they would've passed it, and even now Schumer is going to keep trying to get it passed. Now it's down to $1.75 trillion and even that is too much for the bullshit they want to pass. What spending you ask?

 

[BreezeWood]

Woulda been a lot higher if the democrats had their way during the Trump years.




The middle class got most of that, and the upper income people actually paid more in taxes AFTER the Trump tax cuts went into effect.




BULLSHIT.




Ethics is included in this forum, gov't ethics is allowed. It is you that made this into a political argument.




What spending do you think? Asinine question. Have you not been paying attention to the amount of spending the democrats have tried to do for the past 5 years? About DOUBLE what it ended up being, like the BBB Bill that recently got torpedoed. They originally wanted to spend about $3.5 trillion, which was analyzed and purported to actually cost approx $5 trillion. And but for Manchin and Sinema they would've passed it, and even now Schumer is going to keep trying to get it passed. Now it's down to $1.75 trillion and even that is too much for the bullshit they want to pass. What spending you ask?

ask the c republicans, they added 8 trillion to the debt and cut their taxes in only 4 years w/ trump -

The middle class got most of that, and the upper income people actually paid more in taxes AFTER the Trump tax cuts went into effect.

They originally wanted to spend about $3.5 trillion ...

this is where they claim someone died on a cross for their sins, telling lies ... the rich paid more under trump.

* spending money stimulates the economy and circulates wealth ... exactly the means for the recovery and boom since the great r depression of 2008.

 

[Skull]

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