black pride vs white pride

[OldLady]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

What is confusing you?

The double standards are fuckin pathetic.
A black person proud to be black is an encouragement. A white person proud to be white is a goddamn NAZI.
Its bullshit. And racist as fuck.

Stop whining. I used to think it was a double standard but a young girl from Pakistan pointed it out to me. Whites have nothing to be proud of because they have overcome nothing where their race has held them back.

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

 

[Correll]

What is confusing you?

The double standards are fuckin pathetic.
A black person proud to be black is an encouragement. A white person proud to be white is a goddamn NAZI.
Its bullshit. And racist as fuck.

Stop whining. I used to think it was a double standard but a young girl from Pakistan pointed it out to me. Whites have nothing to be proud of because they have overcome nothing where their race has held them back.

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

YOu stated that "whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others".


This is obviously NOT true when you look at what the word actually means.

Whites can CERTAINLY calls various minorities and liberals racist if they, for example, "treat whites poorly because of their race".

THere is no need for blacks or liberals to be the "dominate culture" before they can be racist.

That was you looking for a reason to give black and liberal racists a pass.

 

[Moonglow]

What do whites have to be proud about that didnt involve genocide, thievery, lying, murder, and the slavery of other races?

Can you show us any time in Africa the same was not practiced?

 

[OldLady]

The double standards are fuckin pathetic.
A black person proud to be black is an encouragement. A white person proud to be white is a goddamn NAZI.
Its bullshit. And racist as fuck.

Stop whining. I used to think it was a double standard but a young girl from Pakistan pointed it out to me. Whites have nothing to be proud of because they have overcome nothing where their race has held them back.

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

YOu stated that "whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others".


This is obviously NOT true when you look at what the word actually means.

Whites can CERTAINLY calls various minorities and liberals racist if they, for example, "treat whites poorly because of their race".

THere is no need for blacks or liberals to be the "dominate culture" before they can be racist.

That was you looking for a reason to give black and liberal racists a pass.

My first post was using the Wikipedia definition, which is the first one that comes up on my search engine. After Correll said that is NOT the definition, I went to Websters, which is the dictionary bible. And Correll was right. But 'racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race' is not something I would agree is being pushed by liberals or whites generally. I wouldn't knowingly give anyone a pass that is being "racist," regardless of who it is. I think we are still disagreeing on the connotations of the word.
There are far more important issues to discuss when it comes to black pride/white pride and white guilt. We have a few true racists on this board, which is a real problem in our society, and we have others who are fairly trying to point out that in the African American community, there are a lot of real problems that need to be addressed more effectively than just blaming whites. It's a real tiptoe through the tulips. I'm trying to be as fair as I can.

 

[Asclepias]

What do whites have to be proud about that didnt involve genocide, thievery, lying, murder, and the slavery of other races?

Can you show us any time in Africa the same was not practiced?

Thats called a deflection since it has nothing to do with the point.

 

[Asclepias]

The double standards are fuckin pathetic.
A black person proud to be black is an encouragement. A white person proud to be white is a goddamn NAZI.
Its bullshit. And racist as fuck.

Stop whining. I used to think it was a double standard but a young girl from Pakistan pointed it out to me. Whites have nothing to be proud of because they have overcome nothing where their race has held them back.

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

YOu stated that "whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others".


This is obviously NOT true when you look at what the word actually means.

Whites can CERTAINLY calls various minorities and liberals racist if they, for example, "treat whites poorly because of their race".

THere is no need for blacks or liberals to be the "dominate culture" before they can be racist.

That was you looking for a reason to give black and liberal racists a pass.

I see that like most uneducated people you tend to believe the definition of a word is the end all be all. You also need to research the etymology of a word before discerning its true meaning. Racism is a system based on racist beliefs. Hence "race" and "ism". Only the dominant culture can maintain racism. Black people cannot practice racism because they own zero systems/resources in the US.

 

[Asclepias]

View attachment 63085

Over a million Blacks have gone to war to keep a country free that enslaved and jim crowed them.

And their service has been appreciated and rewarded by a grateful nation.

Please get an education. Its all too apparent you lack one.

Pariticipation in America's Wars and Black Americans

 

[Asclepias]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

yes they did. White pride is racist. Besides that, we have absolutely NOTHING to be proud about except murder etc. Black pride isn't racist. Add to that, they have everything in the world to be proud of. And apparently NOTHING to be ashamed of.
It only works one way and it racist to think any other way.

Your sarcasm is not hiding the fact that you are whining.

 

[TNHarley]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

yes they did. White pride is racist. Besides that, we have absolutely NOTHING to be proud about except murder etc. Black pride isn't racist. Add to that, they have everything in the world to be proud of. And apparently NOTHING to be ashamed of.
It only works one way and it racist to think any other way.

Your sarcasm is not hiding the fact that you are whining.

Im not whining. That's just the dumbass explanation I have gathered from you. Its all over the thread. You deny more than a crackhead at an intervention. Its pathetic and serves no useful purpose.

 

[Asclepias]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

yes they did. White pride is racist. Besides that, we have absolutely NOTHING to be proud about except murder etc. Black pride isn't racist. Add to that, they have everything in the world to be proud of. And apparently NOTHING to be ashamed of.
It only works one way and it racist to think any other way.

Your sarcasm is not hiding the fact that you are whining.

Im not whining. That's just the dumbass explanation I have gathered from you. Its all over the thread. You deny more than a crackhead at an intervention. Its pathetic and serves no useful purpose.

Well either youre whining or your reading comprehension is at an all time low. Please post where I said Black people have nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[TNHarley]

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

yes they did. White pride is racist. Besides that, we have absolutely NOTHING to be proud about except murder etc. Black pride isn't racist. Add to that, they have everything in the world to be proud of. And apparently NOTHING to be ashamed of.
It only works one way and it racist to think any other way.

Your sarcasm is not hiding the fact that you are whining.

Im not whining. That's just the dumbass explanation I have gathered from you. Its all over the thread. You deny more than a crackhead at an intervention. Its pathetic and serves no useful purpose.

Well either youre whining or your reading comprehension is at an all time low. Please post where I said Black people have nothing to be ashamed of.

You deny everything. Earlier, you told moonglow Africa coesnt count. You said "white people have never been oppressed". I listed some times to prove your inevitable bullshit, and nothing. Again, its pathetic.
You are such a cool guy outside of racial discussions. When you talk about race, you go off the deep end. Every fuckin time!

 

[Si modo]

If I could make my skin color change, I'd be proud of that...not something that has been done.

I had nothing to do with my skin color; thus, I'm not proud of it.

 

[Asclepias]

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

yes they did. White pride is racist. Besides that, we have absolutely NOTHING to be proud about except murder etc. Black pride isn't racist. Add to that, they have everything in the world to be proud of. And apparently NOTHING to be ashamed of.
It only works one way and it racist to think any other way.

Your sarcasm is not hiding the fact that you are whining.

Im not whining. That's just the dumbass explanation I have gathered from you. Its all over the thread. You deny more than a crackhead at an intervention. Its pathetic and serves no useful purpose.

Well either youre whining or your reading comprehension is at an all time low. Please post where I said Black people have nothing to be ashamed of.

You deny everything. Earlier, you told moonglow Africa coesnt count. You said "white people have never been oppressed". I listed some times to prove your inevitable bullshit, and nothing. Again, its pathetic.
You are such a cool guy outside of racial discussions. When you talk about race, you go off the deep end. Every fuckin time!

Yeah Africa doesnt count. What made you think it did? It doesnt make sense to say something happened in Africa as a cover for addressing the point. That point being that whites have done nothing that has anything to do with race to be proud of except killing, causing mayhem, slavery, etc etc. The "he did it too" excuse is nothing but a deflection. Address the point. Once thats addressed then we can change the conversation. I still dont see the post you claimed I said Blacks have nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[TNHarley]

If I could make my skin color change, I'd be proud of that...not something that has been done.

I had nothing to do with my skin color; thus, I'm not proud of it.

 

[Si modo]

I think physicians (like plastic hacks) did that. Dunno if they are proud of it.

 

[Correll]

Stop whining. I used to think it was a double standard but a young girl from Pakistan pointed it out to me. Whites have nothing to be proud of because they have overcome nothing where their race has held them back.

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

YOu stated that "whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others".


This is obviously NOT true when you look at what the word actually means.

Whites can CERTAINLY calls various minorities and liberals racist if they, for example, "treat whites poorly because of their race".

THere is no need for blacks or liberals to be the "dominate culture" before they can be racist.

That was you looking for a reason to give black and liberal racists a pass.

My first post was using the Wikipedia definition, which is the first one that comes up on my search engine. After Correll said that is NOT the definition, I went to Websters, which is the dictionary bible. And Correll was right. But 'racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race' is not something I would agree is being pushed by liberals or whites generally. I wouldn't knowingly give anyone a pass that is being "racist," regardless of who it is. I think we are still disagreeing on the connotations of the word.
There are far more important issues to discuss when it comes to black pride/white pride and white guilt. We have a few true racists on this board, which is a real problem in our society, and we have others who are fairly trying to point out that in the African American community, there are a lot of real problems that need to be addressed more effectively than just blaming whites. It's a real tiptoe through the tulips. I'm trying to be as fair as I can.

Yet you keep ignoring the first and most obvious definition of the word.

poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race

That sums up quite a bit of ideas that liberals push.

 

[Correll]

Stop whining. I used to think it was a double standard but a young girl from Pakistan pointed it out to me. Whites have nothing to be proud of because they have overcome nothing where their race has held them back.

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

YOu stated that "whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others".


This is obviously NOT true when you look at what the word actually means.

Whites can CERTAINLY calls various minorities and liberals racist if they, for example, "treat whites poorly because of their race".

THere is no need for blacks or liberals to be the "dominate culture" before they can be racist.

That was you looking for a reason to give black and liberal racists a pass.

I see that like most uneducated people you tend to believe the definition of a word is the end all be all. You also need to research the etymology of a word before discerning its true meaning. Racism is a system based on racist beliefs. Hence "race" and "ism". Only the dominant culture can maintain racism. Black people cannot practice racism because they own zero systems/resources in the US.

Nonsense designed to give you and racists like you a pass.

YOu don't need a "System" or resources to hate someone.

Or to act on it.


AND thus treat someone "poorly" because of their race and by doing so meet the definition of "racist".

 

[Correll]

View attachment 63085

Over a million Blacks have gone to war to keep a country free that enslaved and jim crowed them.

And their service has been appreciated and rewarded by a grateful nation.

Please get an education. Its all too apparent you lack one.

Pariticipation in America's Wars and Black Americans

So, at some point(s) in the past that was not true.

NOw it is.

And still waiting for the THanks for those white guys that died to free your ancestors.

 

[Asclepias]

Not in this nation, no. Whites like every other group of human beings have had their tests and have made their contributions to the world in science, art, etc. I agree that whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others. It drives me mad when the word is misused so freely. But as the OP points out, that is the meaning of the word. Maybe the real solution is to coin a new word?

That is NOT the meaning of that word.

You're right. Merriam Websters (I take it Sassy won't object to that site?) defines it:
racism
Simple Definition of racism

• : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
• : the belief that some races of people are better than others
• Full Definition of racism
• 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

1. 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So if you want to argue that liberals believe that minority races are inherently superior to whites and better than whites, you can. However, I don't usually see that type of attitude. Maybe I'm just moving in the wrong circles.

YOu stated that "whites in America can't call minorities and liberals racist, because racism DOES mean the dominant culture believing it is superior to others".


This is obviously NOT true when you look at what the word actually means.

Whites can CERTAINLY calls various minorities and liberals racist if they, for example, "treat whites poorly because of their race".

THere is no need for blacks or liberals to be the "dominate culture" before they can be racist.

That was you looking for a reason to give black and liberal racists a pass.

I see that like most uneducated people you tend to believe the definition of a word is the end all be all. You also need to research the etymology of a word before discerning its true meaning. Racism is a system based on racist beliefs. Hence "race" and "ism". Only the dominant culture can maintain racism. Black people cannot practice racism because they own zero systems/resources in the US.

Nonsense designed to give you and racists like you a pass.

YOu don't need a "System" or resources to hate someone.

Or to act on it.


AND thus treat someone "poorly" because of their race and by doing so meet the definition of "racist".

I never said you need a system or resources to hate someone. I've talked to you about your poor reading comprehension before. I said you need ownership of they systems and resources to practice racism. For example. If i own the legal system I can make laws that punish one race unfairly like for example the crack laws that arrested more Blacks than white heroin users/dealers.

 

[Asclepias]

View attachment 63085

Over a million Blacks have gone to war to keep a country free that enslaved and jim crowed them.

And their service has been appreciated and rewarded by a grateful nation.

Please get an education. Its all too apparent you lack one.

Pariticipation in America's Wars and Black Americans

So, at some point(s) in the past that was not true.

NOw it is.
And still waiting for the THanks for those white guys that died to free your ancestors.

Why are you waiting? You didnt fight for Black people to be freed. If you were there you would have been fighting for the losers.