Boycott the oscars...bunch of lying,socialist perverts.

[MindWars]

wingers absolutely abhor the talented, could be jealously, pretty sure it is

 

[gallantwarrior]

So, you now speak for Jake?

He has every right to point out facts.

OK, so you label anyone who supports restoring this country to rule of law and putting us (Americans?) first as Alt-right?
Who would you include in the Alt-left group?

Ask Richard Spencer who coined the term.
They'e white supremacists, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.

OK, so now I have definitions for both "alt-right": anyone who supports restoring this country to rule of law and putting us (Americans?) first, and "alt-left: white supremacists, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.
Thank you for clearing that up for me, and for others who may be curious.

That is a limited definition. All of the points were made above as you well know.

Limited can often equate to simplified. Your definitions have been acknowledged and accepted, by me if no one else. Thank you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

He has every right to point out facts.

OK, so you label anyone who supports restoring this country to rule of law and putting us (Americans?) first as Alt-right?
Who would you include in the Alt-left group?

Ask Richard Spencer who coined the term.
They'e white supremacists, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.

OK, so now I have definitions for both "alt-right": anyone who supports restoring this country to rule of law and putting us (Americans?) first, and "alt-left: white supremacists, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.
Thank you for clearing that up for me, and for others who may be curious.

That is a limited definition. All of the points were made above as you well know.

Limited can often equate to simplified. Your definitions have been acknowledged and accepted, by me if no one else. Thank you.

Your limited definition is inadequate. You don't like the racialistic, nativistic, jingoistic, and anti-democracy overtones of Alt Right beliefs. That's your problem, buddy.

Since most of that does not apply to you, you are Far Right not Alt Right.

 

[gallantwarrior]

OK, so you label anyone who supports restoring this country to rule of law and putting us (Americans?) first as Alt-right?
Who would you include in the Alt-left group?

Ask Richard Spencer who coined the term.
They'e white supremacists, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.

OK, so now I have definitions for both "alt-right": anyone who supports restoring this country to rule of law and putting us (Americans?) first, and "alt-left: white supremacists, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.
Thank you for clearing that up for me, and for others who may be curious.

That is a limited definition. All of the points were made above as you well know.

Limited can often equate to simplified. Your definitions have been acknowledged and accepted, by me if no one else. Thank you.

Your limited definition is inadequate. You don't like the racialistic, nativistic, jingoistic, and anti-democracy overtones of Alt Right beliefs. That's your problem, buddy.

Since most of that does not apply to you, you are Far Right not Alt Right.

OK, lots of labels there, not much definition.
Racialistic: Chiefly British Variant of racism, translated to "racialism" in American English, i.e. "An emphasis on race or racial considerations, as in determining policy or interpreting events. Policy or practice based on racial considerations."
This lies more on the left side of the political spectrum than the right. The left loves to segregate groups based on race, nationality, sex, gender selection, religion, or whatever the "flavor of the day" preferred group may represent. The more "disadvantaged" groups are pitted against the "advantaged" groups in increasingly vitriolic exchanges.

Nativistic: (nativism) "A sociopolitical policy, especially in the United States in the 1800s, favoring the interests of established inhabitants over those of immigrants."
If you equate a conservative interest in preserving the American tradition of assimilating immigrants, and the historical immigrant embrace becoming an American, then I'll allow this belongs on the right side of the political spectrum. There is nothing wrong with expecting people coming here to desire and strive to not just take our wealth and standard of living, but to wholeheartedly support and work to contribute to those concepts. Currently, the left-side ideal appears to be more of many separate, and disparate, groups living peaceably side-by-side. Unfortunately, without the homogeneity of assimilation, too many of these groups despise others so much, there can never be peace. My way, or the highway just doesn't work.

Jingoistic: (jingoism) "Extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent foreign policy; chauvinistic patriotism."
Again, the question arises, what is so evil about promoting our national interests in favor of other nations? Why do you think so many of these people come here, legally and illegally? Could it be that our "belligerent foreign policy" provides a country free of the oppression, poverty, and unrest in their home countries?

Anti-democracy: This is completely open to interpretation. What you may define as democratic may not agree with my idea of democracy. If 51% of the mob favors one thing, then desires and needs of 49% will be suppressed. When that 51% is geographically and philosophically isolated from the remaining 49%, how do we establish and maintain a governmental system fair to all?

I still agree with your simplified definitions of "alt-right" and "alt-left" as described previously in this post. While not completely inclusive for either group, they do generally describe each.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are striving, GW, and I appreciate your effort.

 

[Hossfly]

You are striving, GW, and I appreciate your effort.

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[gallantwarrior]

You are striving, GW, and I appreciate your effort.

I am trying to understand something, and you are one of the least demented lefty types around here.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are striving, GW, and I appreciate your effort.

I am trying to understand something, and you are one of the least demented lefty types around here.

I may be demented, but I am not a lefty in the slightest.

 

[Hossfly]

You are striving, GW, and I appreciate your effort.

I am trying to understand something, and you are one of the least demented lefty types around here.

I may be demented, but I am not a lefty in the slightest.

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[gallantwarrior]

You are striving, GW, and I appreciate your effort.

I am trying to understand something, and you are one of the least demented lefty types around here.

I may be demented, but I am not a lefty in the slightest.

My statement would still be true, then, about you being one of the least demented lefties.

 

[JoeB131]

wingers absolutely abhor the talented, could be jealously, pretty sure it is

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