California kicking patients our of their nursing homes.

[pknopp]

I would think the Republicans here would be cheering. This is what they are advocating. Kicking people off Medicare and ending it.

It seems they will allow their hatred of others to override their principles.

thats a human condition, not right or left.

It is a fault of both sides but it applies to Republicans here. I condemn the lefts war mongering all the time.

extremes are extremes and they all need to shut up for awhile.

Not likely going to happen because we allow it.

 

[Mac-7]

I would think the Republicans here would be cheering. This is what they are advocating. Kicking people off Medicare and ending it.

It seems they will allow their hatred of others to override their principles.

Medicare only pays for a certain amount of bed days per year. Doesn’t matter what party you vote for either.

Spcialist democrats are kicking old people out of nursing homes for living too long

Exactly. And Medicare and Medicaid don’t cover their necessities most of the time anyway....deeming them “not medically necessary”.

California socialists who promise to take care of everyone are going to throw old folks out on the street over a little thing like money


What would karl marx say?

 

[danielpalos]

what is means tested welfare for, anyway?

 

[BlueGin]

I would think the Republicans here would be cheering. This is what they are advocating. Kicking people off Medicare and ending it.


It seems they will allow their hatred of others to override their principles.

Medicare only pays for a certain amount of bed days per year. Doesn’t matter what party you vote for either.

When Medicare runs out Medicaid kicks in.

Only for a very few. Most don’t qualify because they have too many assets ( savings,income, social security etc). You have to have less than 2k in assets. And usually less than that depending on funding.

So, all can qualify for long term care one way or the other.

Not really. Only in the short term and only if they are deemed rehab eligible ( with Medicare) and only if they qualify for Medicaid...which most don’t.

 

[BlueGin]

I would think the Republicans here would be cheering. This is what they are advocating. Kicking people off Medicare and ending it.

It seems they will allow their hatred of others to override their principles.

Medicare only pays for a certain amount of bed days per year. Doesn’t matter what party you vote for either.

Spcialist democrats are kicking old people out of nursing homes for living too long

Exactly. And Medicare and Medicaid don’t cover their necessities most of the time anyway....deeming them “not medically necessary”.

California socialists who promise to take care of everyone are going to throw old folks out on the street over a little thing like money


What would karl marx say?

Good job?

 

[pknopp]

I would think the Republicans here would be cheering. This is what they are advocating. Kicking people off Medicare and ending it.


It seems they will allow their hatred of others to override their principles.

Medicare only pays for a certain amount of bed days per year. Doesn’t matter what party you vote for either.

When Medicare runs out Medicaid kicks in.

Only for a very few. Most don’t qualify because they have too many assets ( savings,income, social security etc). You have to have less than 2k in assets. And usually less than that depending on funding.

So, all can qualify for long term care one way or the other.

Not really. Only in the short term and only if they are deemed rehab eligible ( with Medicare) and only if they qualify for Medicaid...which most don’t.

Yes, really. They either have the funds or they qualify for Medicaid.

 

[Mac-7]

I would think the Republicans here would be cheering. This is what they are advocating. Kicking people off Medicare and ending it.

It seems they will allow their hatred of others to override their principles.

Medicare only pays for a certain amount of bed days per year. Doesn’t matter what party you vote for either.

Spcialist democrats are kicking old people out of nursing homes for living too long

Exactly. And Medicare and Medicaid don’t cover their necessities most of the time anyway....deeming them “not medically necessary”.

California socialists who promise to take care of everyone are going to throw old folks out on the street over a little thing like money


What would karl marx say?

Good job?

Letting old people die of exposure qualifies as a good job in lib la la land?

 

[danielpalos]

What is means tested welfare for?

Meta data for the general welfare not the general warfare!

 

[The Original Tree]

Wait until you see what happens if they ever con America in to getting Medicare For All Passed.

You think The Death Panels in Europe are bad?

You haven't seen nothing yet.

 

[pknopp]

Wait until you see what happens if they ever con America in to getting Medicare For All Passed.

You think The Death Panels in Europe are bad?

You haven't seen nothing yet.

Private insurance has death panels. They do not simply pay for everything either.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It is a fault of both sides but it applies to Republicans here. I condemn the lefts war mongering all the time.

How is what the one party state of California is doing here the fault of the republicans? You claim you aren't a leftist then post shit like this?
It's California who is removing very sick seniors from nursing homes yet at the same time they are passing laws that subsidize medical care for illegals.

Why not stop the chickenshit lies and own up to your own epic dishonesty?

 

[pknopp]

It is a fault of both sides but it applies to Republicans here. I condemn the lefts war mongering all the time.

How is what the one party state of California is doing here the fault of the republicans? You claim you aren't a leftist then post shit like this?

What I stated is that Republicans should support this as they support cutting Medicare. Am I wrong?

It's California who is removing very sick seniors from nursing homes yet at the same time they are passing laws that subsidize medical care for illegals.

Why not stop the chickenshit lies and own up to your own epic dishonesty?

What have I been wrong about?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

What I stated is that Republicans should support this as they support cutting Medicare. Am I wrong?

Yes. Of course you are wrong and disingenuous again.Republicans as a party have not tried to cut Medicare
nor are there any plans to cut Medicare.
You keep stating this as if it were fact and you are lying. Stop lying.

What have I been wrong about?

Every single post where you try to make this a republican problem.
Republicans don't run shit in California. Democrats are apparently throwing seniors out of nursing homes to ease money problems while simultaneously they are subsidizing health care for their enormous population of illegal immigrants.

And you've done nothing but try to tap dance around that fact. Democrats give sick seniors the finger as they hug and draw close their base of criminal illegals.

Fuck Gavin Newsom and his gang and fuck two bit spin doctors like yourself.

 

[BlueGin]

Medicare only pays for a certain amount of bed days per year. Doesn’t matter what party you vote for either.

When Medicare runs out Medicaid kicks in.

Only for a very few. Most don’t qualify because they have too many assets ( savings,income, social security etc). You have to have less than 2k in assets. And usually less than that depending on funding.

So, all can qualify for long term care one way or the other.

Not really. Only in the short term and only if they are deemed rehab eligible ( with Medicare) and only if they qualify for Medicaid...which most don’t.

Yes, really. They either have the funds or they qualify for Medicaid.

They have to meet nursing home functional eligibility criteria as well as asset guidelines.

they don’t suggest talking to an elder law attorney prior to selling your soul to the government for nothing you know.

 

[MindWars]

Some of California’s most vulnerable nursing home residents, many of whom have nowhere else to go, are receiving letters from their health care plans saying they are no longer eligible for long-term care.

Another example of the results of liberal socialism on the Left Coast of the USA.

The residents included a 68-year-old amputee with diabetes, memory loss and kidney disease who required dialysis three times a week, and an 82-year-old man with congestive heart failure and diabetes who wasn’t strong enough to transfer himself from his bed to a wheelchair, Jones said.

All because Medi-Cal is running short and is desperately trying to cut back spending.

Golick, the ombudsman for several northern counties, said a man in his 80s in Trinity County received a notice from Partnership HealthPlan earlier this year that he was no longer covered for nursing care he’d depended on for a decade. Like many elderly residents, she said, he felt he had no choice but to comply. He told her he might sleep on someone’s couch, or in his brother’s car.

Add a few more to the homeless population.

The full story with lots of examples is @ California Nursing Home Residents Told To Find New Homes | naked capitalism

Sharing thanks . shared another good article you found yesterday too!!

 

[MindWars]

What I stated is that Republicans should support this as they support cutting Medicare. Am I wrong?

Yes. Of course you are wrong and disingenuous again.Republicans as a party have not tried to cut Medicare
nor are there any plans to cut Medicare.
You keep stating this as if it were fact and you are lying. Stop lying.

What have I been wrong about?

Every single post where you try to make this a republican problem.
Republicans don't run shit in California. Democrats are apparently throwing seniors out of nursing homes to ease money problems while simultaneously they are subsidizing health care for their enormous population of illegal immigrants.

And you've done nothing but try to tap dance around that fact. Democrats give sick seniors the finger as they hug and draw close their base of criminal illegals.

Fuck Gavin Newsom and his gang and fuck two bit spin doctors like yourself.

They really can't see what morons they make themselves out to be INCLUDING THE FKR who calls me crazy train!! lol

 

[pknopp]

When Medicare runs out Medicaid kicks in.

Only for a very few. Most don’t qualify because they have too many assets ( savings,income, social security etc). You have to have less than 2k in assets. And usually less than that depending on funding.

So, all can qualify for long term care one way or the other.

Not really. Only in the short term and only if they are deemed rehab eligible ( with Medicare) and only if they qualify for Medicaid...which most don’t.

Yes, really. They either have the funds or they qualify for Medicaid.

They have to meet nursing home functional eligibility criteria as well as asset guidelines.

they don’t suggest talking to an elder law attorney prior to selling your soul to the government for nothing you know.

Repeating what I've already addressed changes nothing.

 

[BlueGin]

Only for a very few. Most don’t qualify because they have too many assets ( savings,income, social security etc). You have to have less than 2k in assets. And usually less than that depending on funding.

So, all can qualify for long term care one way or the other.

Not really. Only in the short term and only if they are deemed rehab eligible ( with Medicare) and only if they qualify for Medicaid...which most don’t.

Yes, really. They either have the funds or they qualify for Medicaid.

They have to meet nursing home functional eligibility criteria as well as asset guidelines.

they don’t suggest talking to an elder law attorney prior to selling your soul to the government for nothing you know.

Repeating what I've already addressed changes nothing.

Keep in mind not all states offer seniors nursing home options through Medicaid. And of those that do some are limited in scope to only adult day care ( some without assisted services etc) some through waivers and the waiting lists are extremely long. If I remember correctly only 44 out of 50 offer it. Sorry but Medicaid is not a guarantee for senior care.

edited to add not all facilities accept Medicaid either.

 

[danielpalos]

Some of California’s most vulnerable nursing home residents, many of whom have nowhere else to go, are receiving letters from their health care plans saying they are no longer eligible for long-term care.

Another example of the results of liberal socialism on the Left Coast of the USA.

The residents included a 68-year-old amputee with diabetes, memory loss and kidney disease who required dialysis three times a week, and an 82-year-old man with congestive heart failure and diabetes who wasn’t strong enough to transfer himself from his bed to a wheelchair, Jones said.

All because Medi-Cal is running short and is desperately trying to cut back spending.

Golick, the ombudsman for several northern counties, said a man in his 80s in Trinity County received a notice from Partnership HealthPlan earlier this year that he was no longer covered for nursing care he’d depended on for a decade. Like many elderly residents, she said, he felt he had no choice but to comply. He told her he might sleep on someone’s couch, or in his brother’s car.

Add a few more to the homeless population.

The full story with lots of examples is @ California Nursing Home Residents Told To Find New Homes | naked capitalism

I always thought "welfare" was means tested.

 

[francoHFW]

Some of California’s most vulnerable nursing home residents, many of whom have nowhere else to go, are receiving letters from their health care plans saying they are no longer eligible for long-term care.

Another example of the results of liberal socialism on the Left Coast of the USA.

The residents included a 68-year-old amputee with diabetes, memory loss and kidney disease who required dialysis three times a week, and an 82-year-old man with congestive heart failure and diabetes who wasn’t strong enough to transfer himself from his bed to a wheelchair, Jones said.

All because Medi-Cal is running short and is desperately trying to cut back spending.

Golick, the ombudsman for several northern counties, said a man in his 80s in Trinity County received a notice from Partnership HealthPlan earlier this year that he was no longer covered for nursing care he’d depended on for a decade. Like many elderly residents, she said, he felt he had no choice but to comply. He told her he might sleep on someone’s couch, or in his brother’s car.

Add a few more to the homeless population.

The full story with lots of examples is @ California Nursing Home Residents Told To Find New Homes | naked capitalism

I doubt it.