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Can anyone really argue Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot?

How many decades have the Libertarians been around? How many decades do they need to get out single digits?

We've been ahead of American public consensus for damn near 30 years. Correct on MEast policy, gay issues, education reform, corporate welfare, govt accountability, Civil Liberties.

Folks allowed the 2 brand name parties to become actual tyrannies. There are now just 4 party operatives controlling the entire dialogue and process of Congress. Politicians can no longer speak their consciences.

This is the RESULT of all the cross-blaming and race to the bottom of integrity and honesty in govt.

Hopefully America will realize that Johnson/Weld is ASKING for your vote. Not EXPECTING your vote. And that old-fashioned concept of public service with a dose of HUMILITY will become very attractive to voters after enduring 80 more days of this tabloid sewer struggle between ClinTrump..

4 years of "mediation" is the ONLY way to knock back the party tyranny and their concentration on WINNING and HOLDING power. The LParty is not there to become a 3rd dynasty. And that's a GOOD thing..

We're waiting on you to get nauseous and reach your limits of tolerance.
 
Pot head Gary? The former CEO of "Cannabis Sativa"? That Gary Johnson?

When folks in state vote to decriminalize marijuana --- how do YOU THINK the regulation and laws and infrastructure gets created? You think it's just MAGIC?

He took that position to help the folks who voted for it ASSURE that it doesn't turn into a clusterfuck of mistakes or govt inaction. He did it for $1 a year to lend his admin skills to the cause. NOT because he's INVESTED in the choice of having legal weed.
 
I mean, it isn't even close.

Gary had a great record in NM, is a decent, honest, and patriotic American.

He is head and shoulders above any candidate on the ballot. Literally, none of the others even reach his knees....

He's ok. Certainly better than the other two clowns. Stein is 100x better though.
 
How many decades have the Libertarians been around? How many decades do they need to get out single digits?

We've been ahead of American public consensus for damn near 30 years. Correct on MEast policy, gay issues, education reform, corporate welfare, govt accountability, Civil Liberties.

Folks allowed the 2 brand name parties to become actual tyrannies. There are now just 4 party operatives controlling the entire dialogue and process of Congress. Politicians can no longer speak their consciences.

This is the RESULT of all the cross-blaming and race to the bottom of integrity and honesty in govt.

Hopefully America will realize that Johnson/Weld is ASKING for your vote. Not EXPECTING your vote. And that old-fashioned concept of public service with a dose of HUMILITY will become very attractive to voters after enduring 80 more days of this tabloid sewer struggle between ClinTrump..

4 years of "mediation" is the ONLY way to knock back the party tyranny and their concentration on WINNING and HOLDING power. The LParty is not there to become a 3rd dynasty. And that's a GOOD thing..

We're waiting on you to get nauseous and reach your limits of tolerance.
You think that an alternative to Clinton and Trump is what we need. Maybe it is, but a DOPER! A doper representative with other countries. A doper making decisions that affect lives. A doper deciding on when to commit to freedom. A doper! I would not allow a doper to decide which toilet paper to buy. Surely we have become so bankrupt as living organisms we deserve to have the franchise revoked.
 
Pot head Gary? The former CEO of "Cannabis Sativa"? That Gary Johnson?

When folks in state vote to decriminalize marijuana --- how do YOU THINK the regulation and laws and infrastructure gets created? You think it's just MAGIC?

He took that position to help the folks who voted for it ASSURE that it doesn't turn into a clusterfuck of mistakes or govt inaction. He did it for $1 a year to lend his admin skills to the cause. NOT because he's INVESTED in the choice of having legal weed.
He's heavily invested, as a stockholder.
 
The very fact that a dope addict can even be considered as the leader of this country is an indication of just how bad the American people have become.

You have proof of that? He busted himself almost completely in a glider accident back about 08 and took marijuana instead of Oxycontin for 3 years. Not smoking now.

America has forgotten a lot about liberty and freedom of choice. You do not have to have ADVOCATE or PARTICIPATE in a choice of action ---- in order to TOLERATE and ALLOW others the freedom to do it.

In fact -- you can HATE the choice personally and still TOLERATE others doing it. That's the keystone of freedom actually. All this silly partisan crap has eaten out your brains and you've forgotten how Liberty and freedom actually work...
 
How many decades have the Libertarians been around? How many decades do they need to get out single digits?

We've been ahead of American public consensus for damn near 30 years. Correct on MEast policy, gay issues, education reform, corporate welfare, govt accountability, Civil Liberties.

Folks allowed the 2 brand name parties to become actual tyrannies. There are now just 4 party operatives controlling the entire dialogue and process of Congress. Politicians can no longer speak their consciences.

This is the RESULT of all the cross-blaming and race to the bottom of integrity and honesty in govt.

Hopefully America will realize that Johnson/Weld is ASKING for your vote. Not EXPECTING your vote. And that old-fashioned concept of public service with a dose of HUMILITY will become very attractive to voters after enduring 80 more days of this tabloid sewer struggle between ClinTrump..

4 years of "mediation" is the ONLY way to knock back the party tyranny and their concentration on WINNING and HOLDING power. The LParty is not there to become a 3rd dynasty. And that's a GOOD thing..

We're waiting on you to get nauseous and reach your limits of tolerance.
You think that an alternative to Clinton and Trump is what we need. Maybe it is, but a DOPER! A doper representative with other countries. A doper making decisions that affect lives. A doper deciding on when to commit to freedom. A doper! I would not allow a doper to decide which toilet paper to buy. Surely we have become so bankrupt as living organisms we deserve to have the franchise revoked.
Do you hold the candidates to the same standard in regard to alcohol?
Are you a TipsyPresidentLover!
 
I saw an intervew with Gary Johnson. He said he was a regular user who could not guarantee that he would not use as president. Long term pot use changes the brain his is pickled by now.

If alcohol is your problem, vote Trump he has never used alcohol.
 
Pot head Gary? The former CEO of "Cannabis Sativa"? That Gary Johnson?

When folks in state vote to decriminalize marijuana --- how do YOU THINK the regulation and laws and infrastructure gets created? You think it's just MAGIC?

He took that position to help the folks who voted for it ASSURE that it doesn't turn into a clusterfuck of mistakes or govt inaction. He did it for $1 a year to lend his admin skills to the cause. NOT because he's INVESTED in the choice of having legal weed.
He's heavily invested, as a stockholder.

He was given stock as CEO -- not his personal investment. It's traditional to give serving CEOs a piece of ownership.

For extra credit --- Tell me which former very GROUNDED US senator nows takes his place as CEO of that company,. One of their main products is extracting essential oils (with and without THC) for treatment of a VARIETY of childhood disease. And the anectodal evidence is HUGE that these treatments BEAT what traditional medicine can offer the kids and their parents.
 
I saw an intervew with Gary Johnson. He said he was a regular user who could not guarantee that he would not use as president. Long term pot use changes the brain his is pickled by now.

If alcohol is your problem, vote Trump he has never used alcohol.

He DID use regularly,, In lieu of addictive pain killers for recovering from that accident. He doesn't now.. And it's smart to not guarantee you won't use something in an occasional manner.

YOU --- just want to deflect from the general clusterfuck created by the Dem/Rep struggle for power. Want to avoid the fact that there are 2 qualified former governors ready to "mediate" for 4 years and slow-down this power struggle. And get things done that are actually EASY to do. But have NOT been done, because your 2 parties have COLLUDED to keep around a long list of problems that THEY HAVE CAUSED --- and don't want to fix.
 
"Can anyone really argue Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot?"

Yes, Johnson is wrong on most of the issues.

His position that the National debt is “arguably the single greatest threat to our national security” is as ignorant as it is wrong; and like most libertarians his economic policies are naïve, simplistic, and devoid of merit.

Johnson is wrong about ‘term limits’ – we already have term limits, they’re called elections; and the American people have the right to elect to a given office whomever they wish for as long as they wish.

Known as ‘Governor No,’ Johnson’s blind, knee-jerk hostility to government spending is contrary to sound, responsible governance.

Johnson opposes the ACA, but like most opponents he has proposed nothing to replace it, offering only vague references to using a ‘market-based’ approach – when in fact the ACA is a market-based approach.

Johnson is wrong about “states’ rights,” eminent domain, and the nature of the judiciary, holding the ridiculous, ignorant, and inane position that only jurists who “interpret the Constitution according to its original meaning” should be appointed to Federal benches and the Supreme Court.

As everyone knows “interpret the Constitution according to its original meaning” is conservaspeak for unwarranted rightwing hostility toward settled, accepted case law concerning 14th Amendment jurisprudence, Commerce Clause jurisprudence, and Establishment Clause jurisprudence – where states would be allowed again to discriminate against various minorities for no other reason than who they are, in accordance with ‘majority rule,’ and in clear violation of the rule of law and the fundamental principles of our Constitutional Republic.

Again, one can very easily and successfully make the argument that Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot.
 
I saw an intervew with Gary Johnson. He said he was a regular user who could not guarantee that he would not use as president. Long term pot use changes the brain his is pickled by now.

If alcohol is your problem, vote Trump he has never used alcohol.

He's a world class mountain climber and a triathelete. For his age -- he's in incredibly good shape and does NOT abuse his body.

America has a leadership crisis -- Just doesn't realize it yet. Need an intervention. Need some humbler people to serve. And to appoint folks to the bureaucracy that aren't there as patronage jobs to protect the Prez.

Need to fix corporate welfare which is the source of govt/corp collusion and graft. Need to change our MEast policy to avoid making the same damn mistakes over and over again. Need to get rid of the Dem/Rep cross - blaming that allows larger and stronger scandals and ethics failures.

4 years of mediation and we go home if you don't see an immediate RELIEF to this toxic political environment.
 
"Can anyone really argue Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot?"

Yes, Johnson is wrong on most of the issues.

His position that the National debt is “arguably the single greatest threat to our national security” is as ignorant as it is wrong; and like most libertarians his economic policies are naïve, simplistic, and devoid of merit.

Johnson is wrong about ‘term limits’ – we already have term limits, they’re called elections; and the American people have the right to elect to a given office whomever they wish for as long as they wish.

Known as ‘Governor No,’ Johnson’s blind, knee-jerk hostility to government spending is contrary to sound, responsible governance.

Johnson opposes the ACA, but like most opponents he has proposed nothing to replace it, offering only vague references to using a ‘market-based’ approach – when in fact the ACA is a market-based approach.

Johnson is wrong about “states’ rights,” eminent domain, and the nature of the judiciary, holding the ridiculous, ignorant, and inane position that only jurists who “interpret the Constitution according to its original meaning” should be appointed to Federal benches and the Supreme Court.

As everyone knows “interpret the Constitution according to its original meaning” is conservaspeak for unwarranted rightwing hostility toward settled, accepted case law concerning 14th Amendment jurisprudence, Commerce Clause jurisprudence, and Establishment Clause jurisprudence – where states would be allowed again to discriminate against various minorities for no other reason than who they are, in accordance with ‘majority rule,’ and in clear violation of the rule of law and the fundamental principles of our Constitutional Republic.

Again, one can very easily and successfully make the argument that Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot.

So the meaning of written law changes with time? Where the hell is that written?
 
"Can anyone really argue Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot?"

Yes, Johnson is wrong on most of the issues.

His position that the National debt is “arguably the single greatest threat to our national security” is as ignorant as it is wrong; and like most libertarians his economic policies are naïve, simplistic, and devoid of merit.

Johnson is wrong about ‘term limits’ – we already have term limits, they’re called elections; and the American people have the right to elect to a given office whomever they wish for as long as they wish.

Known as ‘Governor No,’ Johnson’s blind, knee-jerk hostility to government spending is contrary to sound, responsible governance.

Johnson opposes the ACA, but like most opponents he has proposed nothing to replace it, offering only vague references to using a ‘market-based’ approach – when in fact the ACA is a market-based approach.

Johnson is wrong about “states’ rights,” eminent domain, and the nature of the judiciary, holding the ridiculous, ignorant, and inane position that only jurists who “interpret the Constitution according to its original meaning” should be appointed to Federal benches and the Supreme Court.

As everyone knows “interpret the Constitution according to its original meaning” is conservaspeak for unwarranted rightwing hostility toward settled, accepted case law concerning 14th Amendment jurisprudence, Commerce Clause jurisprudence, and Establishment Clause jurisprudence – where states would be allowed again to discriminate against various minorities for no other reason than who they are, in accordance with ‘majority rule,’ and in clear violation of the rule of law and the fundamental principles of our Constitutional Republic.

Again, one can very easily and successfully make the argument that Gary Johnson is not the best candidate on the ballot.

Being know as Governor "No" saved New Mexico from becoming a no credit basket case. As opposed to Illinois and California and all the other free-spending bastions of debt.

The ACA is broke. It was NEVER conceived -- it was tossed together AD HOC by agencies who are not accountable to the public. It NEEDS to fixed. It's gonna reach crisis proportions in the next 4 years if not addressed. And BOTH PARTIES have largely postured to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about it for 6 or 7 years.

That's the fatal dysfunctional stand-off that needs to be broken up for 4 or 8 years. Before you asshole partisans KILL this country permanently. The clock is ticking. And electing ClinTrump is just gonna make the dysfunction systemic and deadly.
 
Objectively he's probably better by some percentage if these things were quantifiable. However, he's not so much better that it would make that much of a difference if he were elected. He came out in favor of a carbon tax and a guaranteed basic income, and claimed that Mitt Romney of all people would definitely have a place in his administration. I could get that nonsense from Clinton or Trump, so why get excited?
 
I mean, it isn't even close.

Gary had a great record in NM, is a decent, honest, and patriotic American.

He is head and shoulders above any candidate on the ballot. Literally, none of the others even reach his knees....
Anyone that thinks he's clever by boasting about eating pot cookies or brownies while on the campaign trail can fuck off.

The whole glorify pot & condemn tobacco mentality is beyond reason too. Personal freedom! Unless I don't like what you're doing.....
 
I mean, it isn't even close.

Gary had a great record in NM, is a decent, honest, and patriotic American.

He is head and shoulders above any candidate on the ballot. Literally, none of the others even reach his knees....
Anyone that thinks he's clever by boasting about eating pot cookies or brownies while on the campaign trail can fuck off.

The whole glorify pot & condemn tobacco mentality is beyond reason too. Personal freedom! Unless I don't like what you're doing.....
I don't think Johnson has gone on record as actually saying tobacco should be illegal. I think he uses it as an example of people being stupid, and that the law is hypocritical, but not that it should be made illegal.
 
I mean, it isn't even close.

Gary had a great record in NM, is a decent, honest, and patriotic American.

He is head and shoulders above any candidate on the ballot. Literally, none of the others even reach his knees....

Oh trust me, it can be argued. It can be argued until the partisan hacks are blue in the face, and then another two hours after that.
 
Objectively he's probably better by some percentage if these things were quantifiable. However, he's not so much better that it would make that much of a difference if he were elected. He came out in favor of a carbon tax and a guaranteed basic income, and claimed that Mitt Romney of all people would definitely have a place in his administration. I could get that nonsense from Clinton or Trump, so why get excited?

Mitt Romney is qualified to serve in any number of positions. And would add to the ability to mediate in consensus problems that SHOULD and NEED to be fixed. He's wrong on jumping into a carbon tax --- and as I told you before -- there is already a "guaranteed minimum income" with the EITC. It sets no real precedent.

At this point -- it's disappointing that he confuses progressive solutions with libertarian solutions. But as a mediation team to put America into a partisan "time-out" -- there has NEVER been a better opportunity to do that.

If Johnson/Weld truly are oblivious to Libertarian principles and turn out to be just "middle of road" peacemakers --- the LParty will primary them out and replace them with folks that have a set of actual principles. In the meantime -- the outcome for America is better with them --- than with ClinTrump. Either of them wins -- the flaming and scandals get worse. And nothing gets done.
 

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