Can anyone recommend another word for Classical Liberalism

[editec]

"All men are created equal" is a profoundly Conservative notion.

NOT in 1776, it wasn't.

Seriously, you did not know this?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I like to look at Classical Liberalism as.........Liberal 1.0

And the word liberal is also completely molested by todays version. LOLberals of today strip the liberty right out of liberal. Being just as authoritarian as modern day social conservatives and all.

 

[g5000]

I want a word that means the polar (diametric) opposite of Progressivism; however, I'd prefer not to use "Classical Liberalism" because then I get dipshits saying "Thomas Jefferson was a [modern] liberal" or modern conservatives who don't even continue reading what I write because they see the word "liberal."

Kind of like when people see "national socialism" and stop thinking when they see the word "socialism".

 

[boedicca]

"Leave-Me-Alone-ism"

 

[konradv]

I want a word that means the polar (diametric) opposite of Progressivism; however, I'd prefer not to use "Classical Liberalism" because then I get dipshits saying "Thomas Jefferson was a [modern] liberal" or modern conservatives who don't even continue reading what I write because they see the word "liberal."

I want a word that primarily indicates:

"Natural Rightism"

What is this "1984" where you redefine words to mean the opposite of the norm? They were the progressives of their day. SORRY

 

[The2ndAmendment]

I want a word that means the polar (diametric) opposite of Progressivism; however, I'd prefer not to use "Classical Liberalism" because then I get dipshits saying "Thomas Jefferson was a [modern] liberal" or modern conservatives who don't even continue reading what I write because they see the word "liberal."

I want a word that primarily indicates:

"Natural Rightism"

Constitutionalist


con·sti·tu·tion·al·ist
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noun
1.
an adherent or advocate of constitutionalism or of an existing constitution.



con·sti·tu·tion·al·ism
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noun
1.
the principles of constitutional government or adherence to them.
2.
constitutional rule or authority.



seems opposite to progressive to me

It could be the proper word, but one could always make the argument that a Constitution could actually contain Progressive clauses.

To me, Constitutionalism is NEUTRAL. A Constitution could describe any form of government, even a monarchy.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

"All men are created equal" is a profoundly Conservative notion.

NOT in 1776, it wasn't.

Seriously, you did not know this?

Obviously, you cannot read. Was it too long for you?

"All men are created equal" IS (that's present tense, you dolt) a profoundly CONSERVATIVE notion.

Let's try to fill in what you weren't bright enough to note the first time around:

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"All men are created equal" is a profoundly Conservative notion.

If rightwinger is claiming that principle as belonging to "liberalism" he must be thinking of what was considered "liberal" back in the days of the American Revolution and the Founding and the Framing. But since modern day conservatism has embraced the principles of the Founders and the Framers, the principle that "all men are created equal" is presently a very conservative notion.

If that's still not clear enough for you, consider a good optometrist.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I want a word that means the polar (diametric) opposite of Progressivism; however, I'd prefer not to use "Classical Liberalism" because then I get dipshits saying "Thomas Jefferson was a [modern] liberal" or modern conservatives who don't even continue reading what I write because they see the word "liberal."

I want a word that primarily indicates:

"Natural Rightism"

Constitutionalist


con·sti·tu·tion·al·ist
[kon-sti-too-shuh-nl-ist, -tyoo-] Show IPA
noun
1.
an adherent or advocate of constitutionalism or of an existing constitution.



con·sti·tu·tion·al·ism
[kon-sti-too-shuh-nl-iz-uhm, -tyoo-] Show IPA
noun
1.
the principles of constitutional government or adherence to them.
2.
constitutional rule or authority.



seems opposite to progressive to me

It could be the proper word, but one could always make the argument that a Constitution could actually contain Progressive clauses.

To me, Constitutionalism is NEUTRAL. A Constitution could describe any form of government, even a monarchy.

Yes. Monarchs, historically, have petitioned the duly elected representatives in their domains to draw up constitutions. Brilliant analysis.

You might be the finest example of a deuchebag presently posting here.

 

[rightwinger]

I like to look at Classical Liberalism as.........Liberal 1.0

And the word liberal is also completely molested by todays version. LOLberals of today strip the liberty right out of liberal. Being just as authoritarian as modern day social conservatives and all.

Not at all

The key to liberalism is flexibility. Each era faces it's own challenges. Our founding fathers faced the challenge of the rights of the common man. Lincoln Republicans faced the challenge of slavery. Fifty years later it was the rights of women. Then the rights of the working class. In the 50s and 60s it was Civil rights and now gay rights

The key is that each succeeding liberal generation would not have accepted the positions and challenges of future generations

But they are still liberals

 

[IlarMeilyr]

I like to look at Classical Liberalism as.........Liberal 1.0

And the word liberal is also completely molested by todays version. LOLberals of today strip the liberty right out of liberal. Being just as authoritarian as modern day social conservatives and all.

Not at all

The key to liberalism is flexibility. Each era faces it's own challenges. Our founding fathers faced the challenge of the rights of the common man. Lincoln Republicans faced the challenge of slavery. Fifty years later it was the rights of women. Then the rights of the working class. In the 50s and 60s it was Civil rights and now gay rights

The key is that each succeeding liberal generation would not have accepted the positions and challenges of future generations

But they are still liberals

The so-called "liberals" of today tend to be doctrinaire and quite rigid. They have an orthodoxy in their thinking. They tend to march in lock step.

 

[Votto]

I want a word that means the polar (diametric) opposite of Progressivism; however, I'd prefer not to use "Classical Liberalism" because then I get dipshits saying "Thomas Jefferson was a [modern] liberal" or modern conservatives who don't even continue reading what I write because they see the word "liberal."

I want a word that primarily indicates:

"Natural Rightism"

What is this "1984" where you redefine words to mean the opposite of the norm? They were the progressives of their day. SORRY

No, they were gun owning rebels who seceded due to high taxation and other abuses. They were anti-government extremists who tried to set up a limited government.

Try taking a history course or two.