China is the loser in trade war

[Mac-7]

Has it occurred to you that if the pressure is on him from every direction, then everyone knows it's a terrible idea?

Its a terrible idea for the comfortable top 1% who are making out like bandits with globalization through china

 

[JoeB131]

Its a terrible idea for the comfortable top 1% who are making out like bandits with globalization through china

It's terrible for the factory worker who can't complete work because of more expensive components or delays in component deliveries.

For the consumers who pays more for consumer goods.

For the retailer who sees sales go down because their customers put off purchases.

But keep drinking the bleach.

 

[Mac-7]

It's terrible for the factory worker who can't complete work because of more expensive components or delays in component deliveries.

Yes, there will be cases like that

We cant expect to correct 40 years of stupid trade policy overnight or without some pain

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, there will be cases like that

We cant expect to correct 40 years of stupid trade policy overnight or without some pain

Why have the pain? Because the Orange Toddler can't admit he doesn't know what he's talking about?

Here's how it's going to play out.

The people who really run things are going to slap Trump around, he's going to announce that he's won some kind of agreement with China and then back down. We'll still end up going into a recession because he really doesn't know what he's doing, and hopefully, the GOP will be sent to the political hinterlands for a generation to think about what they did wrong.

 

[Mac-7]

Why have the pain? Because the Orange Toddler can't admit he doesn't know what he's talking about?

No, because its national suicide to depend so much on china for our basic necessities

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

....Fail.... Your assumption that he must have cut deals with 200 countries or not is ludicrous.

WHY?
That's what Trump said 100%.

Deals can be multiple deals on multiple products between the two parties negotiating the deals.

Split deals are different than a sweeping deal between two countries, and you know this, but you continue your fiasco on get Trump, get Trump, get Trump at all cost.

So................50 or 75 is now 100% ?

 

[Godboy]

WHY?
That's what Trump said 100%.

So................50 or 75 is now 100% ?

Did you see that Apple is now moving out of China and into India? Who would have ever thought this would be possible? If Apple can do this, then so can other companies.

China is in deep shit.

 

[sealybobo]

I think we need union reform

Without it most new jobs will go to nonunion states

I’m okay with that. Go. If those workers are unhappy they will organize. If not, they are Americans working and paying taxes. I’ll take it

 

[JoeB131]

No, because its national suicide to depend so much on china for our basic necessities

No, national suicide is isolationism in a global world.

We trade with them, they trade with us.

If we want to sell more, we need to be more competitive.

 

[initforme]

Yes, there will be cases like that

We cant expect to correct 40 years of stupid trade policy overnight or without some pain

Thete are ways to do it without making hard working american citizens have to feel "pain".

 

[DonGlock26]

The evidence is overwhelming that china is in crisis

kneejerk trump haters, white monkeys who shill for china, the dems, and globalists keep telling us that china is unbeatable

Allegedly china is the immovable object, while at the same time the Irresistible force

But its a lie

Wake up libs!

Let China deal with internal strife rather than try to invade Taiwan.

 

[DonGlock26]

Thete are ways to do it without making hard working american citizens have to feel "pain".

Such as?

 

[Mac-7]

I’m okay with that. Go. If those workers are unhappy they will organize. If not, they are Americans working and paying taxes. I’ll take it

The japanese car companies have been operating in America for at least 40 years now with no major incidents that I am aware of

And no union

 

[Mac-7]

No, national suicide is isolationism in a global world.

We trade with them, they trade with us.

If we want to sell more, we need to be more competitive.

With you its all or nothing

Either trade our sovereignty to china or be isolated from the world

And thsts not how it is

 

[Mac-7]

Thete are ways to do it without making hard working american citizens have to feel "pain".

No there isnt

Thats like wishing for pain free chemotherapy

The chinese cancer will either continue groeing or go away completely

Compromise is not possible

 

[initforme]

No there isnt

Thats like wishing for pain free chemotherapy

The chinese cancer will either continue groeing or go away completely

Compromise is not possible

Well the tariffs will be bringing in trilliond soon so that should offset "the pain" big time. Aren't the tariffs on China like 145 percent or something close?

 

[beagle9]

Well the tariffs will be bringing in trilliond soon so that should offset "the pain" big time. Aren't the tariffs on China like 145 percent or something close?

Might break the supply chains, then we are back to Biden days maybe ?

Is Trump different this time, otherwise he seems to be going all out because he only has this term left, so he's trying to do to much at one time maybe ?

Already he's realized that many issue's are so complicated because of what Biden caused, that he's had to back off of some of the claims that he made during his campaign about war's ending, hostages being back already, and now the economy taking a hit with further price issue's possible, otherwise because of the tariff strategy in hopes to fix the trade deficits our nation has been suffering from, and this as the national debt just kept growing and growing and growing.

I'd say that we should do a lot less boasting about result's before they are realized, and focus on absolute team work strategies if we are going to get out of the mess that not only Biden got us into, but rather a number of president's had gotten us into.

We don't want Trump being pushed into having to become a WAR president, but that has become a huge fragile piece to this on going puzzle trying to be solved peacefully as well.

This is not a dig at Trump because he's doing the best that he can, but my advice to him is to slow down, and huddle up to come up with a great offensive strategy by using all the key player's along with all their abilities present on every play.

No new war's, and let's peacefully end the one's in play by not adding to the problem's, but rather working to fix them by being a neutral peace negotiator in which can be seen as the greatest strength in our tool box. No conditional requirements on our part, otherwise as far as receiving any benefits from the war torn countries, but instead just to show both of them how stupid and devastating war truly is and can be from our own experiences being brought to the peace conversation.

We have plenty of history to give as examples of war's and their stupidity. Vietnam and a few other's come to mind.

The war on the border has been a just war, because either we are a culturally driven sovereign nation or not, and open borders are absolutely unexceptable if we are to be seen as Americans united in a nation that has border control.

We should work to build our military back strong in character as well as replenishing our stock piles, and in the mean time a warning should go out to the world that while we are course correcting don't try us because we might jump to protect ourselves if a threat evolves around us.

While course correcting, our hard working citizen's can be insulated just like we are poised to help our farmer's if the world market's are slow to course correct as well, otherwise in order to accommodate fair and free trade with balancing everything out like it should be, and this for all player's to prosper in the global deal making and new bids being given.

Insulating our deserving senior's after all that they have done to help build and keep America strong is a no brainer.

Shifting from having all these Ivy league schools to trade schools is a no brainer, and especially after seeing what is going on now. Nothing wrong with having closely monitored Ivy league schools that work to produce great American patriots, but what we have now has become a joke as well as a huge danger in America. A sweep of the professor's should be made, and their curriculums abolished if they were indoctrinating our youth by causing them to be anti-American or worse enemies of America per these unknown sleeper cells.

Time to send out a strong message that crime no longer pays, and violent crime will be zero tolerance in policy. Tougher and longer sentences without paroles for at least the first 7 years should be the new thing. After seven year's and depending on the crime committed the parole thing can start then after a sentence to prison. We must give back hope and peace to the victim's and their families that they have been vindicated as well as protected after a perp had violated their's and their families rights to live a safe peaceful life in America.

No more allowing the criminal to repeat offend or worse causing the innocent not to come forward because of the revolving door created by a rogue justice system that favors or feels sorry for criminals instead of being 100% for the victim's instead.

I could go on but I'll stop.

 

[initforme]

Might break the supply chains, then we are back to Biden days maybe ?

Is Trump different this time, otherwise he seems to be going all out because he only has this term left, so he's trying to do to much at one time maybe ?

Already he's realized that many issue's are so complicated because of what Biden caused, that he's had to back off of some of the claims that he made during his campaign about war's ending, hostages being back already, and now the economy taking a hit with further price issue's possible, otherwise because of the tariff strategy in hopes to fix the trade deficits our nation has been suffering from, and this as the national debt just kept growing and growing and growing.

I'd say that we should do a lot less boasting about result's before they are realized, and focus on absolute team work strategies if we are going to get out of the mess that not only Biden got us into, but rather a number of president's had gotten us into.

We don't want Trump being pushed into having to become a WAR president, but that has become a huge fragile piece to this on going puzzle trying to be solved peacefully as well.

This is not a dig at Trump because he's doing the best that he can, but my advice to him is to slow down, and huddle up to come up with a great offensive strategy by using all the key player's along with all their abilities present on every play.

No new war's, and let's peacefully end the one's in play by not adding to the problem's, but rather working to fix them by being a neutral peace negotiator in which can be seen as the greatest strength in our tool box. No conditional requirements on our part as far as receiving any benefits from the war torn countries, but instead just to shoe both of them how stupid and devastating war truly is. We have plenty of history to give as examples of it's stupidity. Vietnam and other's come to mind.

The war on the border has been a just war, because either we are a culturally driven sovereign nation or not, and open borders are absolutely unexceptable if we are to be seen as Americans united in a nation that has border control.

We should work to build our military back strong in character as well as replenishing our stock piles, and in the mean time a warning should go out to the world that while we are course correcting don't try us because we might jump to protect ourselves if a threat evolves around us.

While course correcting, our hard working citizen's can be insulated just like we are poised to help our farmer's if the world market's are slow to course correct as well in order to accommodate fair and free trade with balancing everything out like it should be for all player's to prosper in the global deal making and bids being given.

Insulating our deserving senior's after all that they have done to help build and keep America strong is a no trainer.

Shifting from having all these IVY league schools to trade schools is a no trainer, and especially after seeing what is going on now. Nothing wrong with having closely monitored Ivy league schools that work to produce great American patriots, but what we have now has become a joke as well as a huge danger in America. A sweep of the professor's should be made, and their curriculums abolished if they were indoctrinating our youth by causing them to be anti-American or worse enemies of America per these unknown sleeper cells.

Time to send out a strong message that crime no longer pays, and violent crime will be zero tolerance in policy. Tougher and longer sentences without paroles for at least the first 7 years should be the new thing. After seven year's and depending on the crime committed the parole thing can start then after a sentence to prison. We must give back hope and peace to the victim's and their families that they have been vindicated as well as projected after a perp had violated their rights to live a safe peaceful life in America.

No more allowing the criminal to repeat offend or worse causing the innocent not to come forward because of the revolving door created by a rogue justice system that favors or feels sorry for criminals instead of being 100% for the victim's instead.

I could go on but I'll stop.

You left out reigning in corporate influence and power and having workers banding together demanding better wages and benefits.

 

[beagle9]

You left out reigning in corporate influence and power and having workers banding together demanding better wages and benefits.

Yes it all needs to be dealt with agree.

I went back and spell checked my post, so if anyone sees Google word changes that make no sense, then I have since corrected those word's.

 

[Mac-7]

Well the tariffs will be bringing in trilliond soon so that should offset "the pain" big time. Aren't the tariffs on China like 145 percent or something close?

I cant keep up with where tariffs are at any given time

Or on who

Its a confusing and ever changing story

But I think trump is making progress

Hopefully he has begun a trade revolution that eill continue after he leaves office