China owns Trump?

[Holos]

Debt to another country implies exchange between two countries (international exchange). If a monetary, financial system is established and you owe then you have no choice but to pay, and to pay you must earn, and to earn you must exchange.

It isn't about the United States debt to China....it's about Donald Trump's own personal debt to China. Read the OP again.

Why are you speaking for Donald Trump's debt?
You owing twice?

Obviously you didn't understand the OP. And, your statement "You owing twice?" does not make sense. So clarify it if you can, otherwise I'm just going to assume that you are a Trump supporter, you know, "uneducated" and can't explain yourself very clearly.

I support any citizen who may need support, any citizen that somehow would not already be providing for all of whom they concern and all of who they are concerned about.

If Trump happens to be in that category for you (not providing adequately) I am his supporter, because evidently he requires support to attain the required position of adequate provider, either as an official or as a common citizen like all of us.

People who actually support other people aren't uneducated. People who actually support other people are prolific, generous, collaborative, patient, inquisitive.

Judgement is only rightfully passed if support is accepted, recognized and continued.

 

[Mertex]

People who actually support other people aren't uneducated. People who actually support other people are prolific, generous, collaborative, patient, inquisitive.

Supporting someone doesn't create an education for you. If you support Donald Trump it is because you, as an uneducated person are not able to comprehend the magnitude of the mistake in making someone that dastardly the President of United States.

Donald Trump is a racist bigot who has been rated as the biggest liar of 2016 by Politifact, who demonizes people for things which he has done himself or continues to do.. The fact that he owes money to the Bank of China is a disadvantage for the United States which only compounds the disadvantage of having him as President.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Donald Trump is a racist bigot who has been rated as the biggest liar of 2016 by Politifact, who demonizes people for things which he has done himself or continues to do.. The fact that he owes money to the Bank of China is a disadvantage for the United States which only compounds the disadvantage of having him as President.

He is a drama queen.

 

[Ozone]

Trump's business is Real Estate.

Not politics. Real Estate.

He buys, sells, develops, and improves it.

Real Estate requires FINANCING. Lenders secure their loan with the REAL ESTATE. They do not have any other pull or sway on the person or entity. They get their monthly debt payments. If the loan defaults they have specific legal remedies that vary depending upon the loan. That's it.

I used to have a mortgage (before I paid it off..freedom!!!) t was with a bank based in Spain. Does Spain own me? How about the tens of thousands of other loans that are held by foreign banks?

How dumb are you people?

the problem is when your debt is passed into circulation as if it was money, but it's not money, it's your debt.

 

[Zander]

Trump's business is Real Estate.

Not politics. Real Estate.

He buys, sells, develops, and improves it.

Real Estate requires FINANCING. Lenders secure their loan with the REAL ESTATE. They do not have any other pull or sway on the person or entity. They get their monthly debt payments. If the loan defaults they have specific legal remedies that vary depending upon the loan. That's it.

I used to have a mortgage (before I paid it off..freedom!!!) t was with a bank based in Spain. Does Spain own me? How about the tens of thousands of other loans that are held by foreign banks?

How dumb are you people?

the problem is when your debt is passed into circulation as if it was money, but it's not money, it's your debt.

Sorry I don't speak jibberish.


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[Mertex]

Trump's business is Real Estate.

Not politics. Real Estate.

He buys, sells, develops, and improves it.

Real Estate requires FINANCING. Lenders secure their loan with the REAL ESTATE. They do not have any other pull or sway on the person or entity. They get their monthly debt payments. If the loan defaults they have specific legal remedies that vary depending upon the loan. That's it.

I used to have a mortgage (before I paid it off..freedom!!!) t was with a bank based in Spain. Does Spain own me? How about the tens of thousands of other loans that are held by foreign banks?

How dumb are you people?

the problem is when your debt is passed into circulation as if it was money, but it's not money, it's your debt.

Sorry I don't speak jibberish.


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Or so you think.........and the preferred spelling is "gibberish".....I tried to find it with the "j" and found this.

gibberish
(redirected from Jibberish)
Jibberish

 

[2aguy]

Conservatives have been whining that Obama hasn't been transparent enough....now they offer up a candidate who has so many secrets, but now transparency doesn't matter? The fact that he won't release his tax returns is not an issue for the Trumpfers.

Republicans are making much todo over the Clinton Foundation because they think that preferential treatment could be gained from Clinton (when she is elected President)...while they dismiss the more horrible probability that China could own the United States if Trump (if elected, God Forbid) files bankruptcy in order not to pay them back!

Trump has been dissing China and Goldman Sachs....as it turns out, he is heavily indebted to both.

Watch as Republican/conservatives spin all kinds of excuses on this one.


An investigation into the real estate holdings of Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, found complex partnerships and debts of at least double the amount to be gleaned from public filings he has made amid his campaign.

As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.

Yet The Times’s examination underscored how much of Mr. Trump’s business remains shrouded in mystery. He has declined to disclose his tax returns or allow an independent valuation of his assets.

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html?_r=0

The Chinese paid a lot of money to the clintons in the form of speaking fees and donations to their foundation.

 

[Mertex]

Conservatives have been whining that Obama hasn't been transparent enough....now they offer up a candidate who has so many secrets, but now transparency doesn't matter? The fact that he won't release his tax returns is not an issue for the Trumpfers.

Republicans are making much todo over the Clinton Foundation because they think that preferential treatment could be gained from Clinton (when she is elected President)...while they dismiss the more horrible probability that China could own the United States if Trump (if elected, God Forbid) files bankruptcy in order not to pay them back!

Trump has been dissing China and Goldman Sachs....as it turns out, he is heavily indebted to both.

Watch as Republican/conservatives spin all kinds of excuses on this one.


An investigation into the real estate holdings of Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, found complex partnerships and debts of at least double the amount to be gleaned from public filings he has made amid his campaign.

As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.

Yet The Times’s examination underscored how much of Mr. Trump’s business remains shrouded in mystery. He has declined to disclose his tax returns or allow an independent valuation of his assets.

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html?_r=0

The Chinese paid a lot of money to the clintons in the form of speaking fees and donations to their foundation.

And your point? Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.....so was he paying to play? Why don't you tell us what he got?

Why isn't she cutting him any deals...or why didn't she cut him any deals when she was Secretary of State?

 

[2aguy]

Conservatives have been whining that Obama hasn't been transparent enough....now they offer up a candidate who has so many secrets, but now transparency doesn't matter? The fact that he won't release his tax returns is not an issue for the Trumpfers.

Republicans are making much todo over the Clinton Foundation because they think that preferential treatment could be gained from Clinton (when she is elected President)...while they dismiss the more horrible probability that China could own the United States if Trump (if elected, God Forbid) files bankruptcy in order not to pay them back!

Trump has been dissing China and Goldman Sachs....as it turns out, he is heavily indebted to both.

Watch as Republican/conservatives spin all kinds of excuses on this one.


An investigation into the real estate holdings of Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, found complex partnerships and debts of at least double the amount to be gleaned from public filings he has made amid his campaign.

As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.

Yet The Times’s examination underscored how much of Mr. Trump’s business remains shrouded in mystery. He has declined to disclose his tax returns or allow an independent valuation of his assets.

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html?_r=0

The Chinese paid a lot of money to the clintons in the form of speaking fees and donations to their foundation.

And your point? Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.....so was he paying to play? Why don't you tell us what he got?

Why isn't she cutting him any deals...or why didn't she cut him any deals when she was Secretary of State?

Trump had to deal with the corrupt politicians so yeah....he had to pay to play......and hilary was right there with her hand out and her government stooges ready to smash anyone who said no.....

Trump didn't sell his office...she did...she doesn't belong in public office ever again..........

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Trump's business is Real Estate.

Not politics. Real Estate.

He buys, sells, develops, and improves it.

Real Estate requires FINANCING. Lenders secure their loan with the REAL ESTATE. They do not have any other pull or sway on the person or entity. They get their monthly debt payments. If the loan defaults they have specific legal remedies that vary depending upon the loan. That's it.

I used to have a mortgage (before I paid it off..freedom!!!) t was with a bank based in Spain. Does Spain own me? How about the tens of thousands of other loans that are held by foreign banks?

How dumb are you people?

the problem is when your debt is passed into circulation as if it was money, but it's not money, it's your debt.

Sorry I don't speak jibberish.


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Or so you think.........and the preferred spelling is "gibberish".....I tried to find it with the "j" and found this.

gibberish
(redirected from Jibberish)
Jibberish

That was an inside joke, a friend of mine and I had back in the early 80's, when I was silkscreeing PCB's in a small room at Nor Cal Corp. in Mountain View, CA.

I had taken a lesson of karate a few years before, and Khan Le and I would play around with karate moves a lot. Our funniest joke was trying to pronounce the word, 'gibberish." He would always say, "gibber." It was all too funny. I visited his folk's home in Sacramento once. It was a long trip.

 

[Mertex]

Conservatives have been whining that Obama hasn't been transparent enough....now they offer up a candidate who has so many secrets, but now transparency doesn't matter? The fact that he won't release his tax returns is not an issue for the Trumpfers.

Republicans are making much todo over the Clinton Foundation because they think that preferential treatment could be gained from Clinton (when she is elected President)...while they dismiss the more horrible probability that China could own the United States if Trump (if elected, God Forbid) files bankruptcy in order not to pay them back!

Trump has been dissing China and Goldman Sachs....as it turns out, he is heavily indebted to both.

Watch as Republican/conservatives spin all kinds of excuses on this one.


An investigation into the real estate holdings of Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, found complex partnerships and debts of at least double the amount to be gleaned from public filings he has made amid his campaign.

As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.

Yet The Times’s examination underscored how much of Mr. Trump’s business remains shrouded in mystery. He has declined to disclose his tax returns or allow an independent valuation of his assets.

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html?_r=0

The Chinese paid a lot of money to the clintons in the form of speaking fees and donations to their foundation.

And your point? Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.....so was he paying to play? Why don't you tell us what he got?

Why isn't she cutting him any deals...or why didn't she cut him any deals when she was Secretary of State?

Trump had to deal with the corrupt politicians so yeah....he had to pay to play......

So what did he get from Clinton....since he's accusing her that everyone that donated had an ulterior motive. What was his ulterior motive?

and hilary was right there with her hand out and her government stooges ready to smash anyone who said no.....

You talk a lot of shit but you don't provide any evidence.........oh, I forgot, you're a conservative....all you have to do is say "Believe Me"....bwahaha.

Trump didn't sell his office...she did...she doesn't belong in public office ever again.........

No, Trump sold fake University promises. Now he's promising you a Mexican free country....and you all are so gullible....just like the people who signed up for his university.

 

[Katzndogz]

I don't want a mexican free country. A leftist free country would be much better. If China could give us a leftist free country I'd vote China.

 

[Mertex]

I don't want a mexican free country. A leftist free country would be much better. If China could give us a leftist free country I'd vote China.

Well, you can go to Somalia....I'm sure they don't have any leftists there......please do us a favor, I'll help pay for your trip there.

 

[Holos]

People who actually support other people aren't uneducated. People who actually support other people are prolific, generous, collaborative, patient, inquisitive.

Supporting someone doesn't create an education for you. If you support Donald Trump it is because you, as an uneducated person are not able to comprehend the magnitude of the mistake in making someone that dastardly the President of United States.

Donald Trump is a racist bigot who has been rated as the biggest liar of 2016 by Politifact, who demonizes people for things which he has done himself or continues to do.. The fact that he owes money to the Bank of China is a disadvantage for the United States which only compounds the disadvantage of having him as President.

You are mistaken.

Supporting someone actually does create an education for you.

I help my classmates on the subjects I am good at, my classmates help me on the subjects they are good at. I support them, they support me. Simple.

To support a political candidate is not the same as to make them an official, elected representative, nor to strive for their official title achievement.

I help my classmates, and my classmates help me, but neither of us need to have the official title of professor, nor do we need to strive for it, nor motivate one another because of or for the title. We can all be independent students supporting one another as we find some mutuality in our subjects of interest.

In this case, the obvious subjects in mutuality are politics and finances. If your claim is true that Trump has problems in those subjects, it must mean you know well about them and therefore you can actually show him how to improve in such a way as for him not to invade your space anymore and to avoid becoming increasingly frustrated to the point of dangerous neglect.

It's just as easy for you to reach him directly as it is for him to reach you directly. TV? Internet? Local Community? How is he reaching you? You can reach him in the same way. Whatever source you are using, it is your own hand, your own eyes, your own legs that decide what to experience - therefore it is your very own embodied self-control that improves your experience too - and especially in relation to other people, as far as they may be in our technological age.

 

[HUGGY]

Conservatives have been whining that Obama hasn't been transparent enough....now they offer up a candidate who has so many secrets, but now transparency doesn't matter? The fact that he won't release his tax returns is not an issue for the Trumpfers.

Republicans are making much todo over the Clinton Foundation because they think that preferential treatment could be gained from Clinton (when she is elected President)...while they dismiss the more horrible probability that China could own the United States if Trump (if elected, God Forbid) files bankruptcy in order not to pay them back!

Trump has been dissing China and Goldman Sachs....as it turns out, he is heavily indebted to both.

Watch as Republican/conservatives spin all kinds of excuses on this one.


An investigation into the real estate holdings of Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, found complex partnerships and debts of at least double the amount to be gleaned from public filings he has made amid his campaign.

As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.

Yet The Times’s examination underscored how much of Mr. Trump’s business remains shrouded in mystery. He has declined to disclose his tax returns or allow an independent valuation of his assets.

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html?_r=0

"According to the Times, a building on the Avenue of the Americas in New York City's Manhattan borough that is partially owned by Trump has a loan of $950 million that was paid for by a few different entities, including the Bank of China and Goldman Sachs."

The 950 million dollar loan from the Chineezers is by far the most beholding any American presidential candidate has ever been to a foreign power that is NOT a friend to the USA.

NYT report: Trump owes money to Bank of China, Goldman Sachs