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China Sends Aircraft Carrier Into Taiwan Strait

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Good, that's their sphere of influence and Taiwan is part of China

The Orange Cheetolini is going to get a reality check




HONG KONG — China sent its sole aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday morning, Taiwan officials said, a defiant move that signals China’s growing naval strength and may foreshadow an early foreign policy challenge for President-elect Donald J. Trumpwhen he takes office in nine days.

The transit of the aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which had been conducting exercises in the South China Sea, comes amid rising tensions between Taiwan and China, and after Mr. Trump broke decades of protocol by speaking on the phone with Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, after his election victory. Ms. Tsai leads a political party that has traditionally supported Taiwan’s formal independence from China.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html
 
Obama fellated the Chinese for his entire 8 years. He let them militarize the entire South China Sea AND steal our technology with no consequences!

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Good, that's their sphere of influence and Taiwan is part of China

The Orange Cheetolini is going to get a reality check




HONG KONG — China sent its sole aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday morning, Taiwan officials said, a defiant move that signals China’s growing naval strength and may foreshadow an early foreign policy challenge for President-elect Donald J. Trumpwhen he takes office in nine days.

The transit of the aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which had been conducting exercises in the South China Sea, comes amid rising tensions between Taiwan and China, and after Mr. Trump broke decades of protocol by speaking on the phone with Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, after his election victory. Ms. Tsai leads a political party that has traditionally supported Taiwan’s formal independence from China.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html

So one of our new Virginia Class Subs gets some target acquisition and screen avoidance practice.

Some sub skipper is probably chomping at the bit right now for some "fun"
 
Good, that's their sphere of influence and Taiwan is part of China

The Orange Cheetolini is going to get a reality check




HONG KONG — China sent its sole aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday morning, Taiwan officials said, a defiant move that signals China’s growing naval strength and may foreshadow an early foreign policy challenge for President-elect Donald J. Trumpwhen he takes office in nine days.

The transit of the aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which had been conducting exercises in the South China Sea, comes amid rising tensions between Taiwan and China, and after Mr. Trump broke decades of protocol by speaking on the phone with Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, after his election victory. Ms. Tsai leads a political party that has traditionally supported Taiwan’s formal independence from China.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html

So one of our new Virginia Class Subs gets some target acquisition and screen avoidance practice.

Some sub skipper is probably chomping at the bit right now for some "fun"

Guno rooting for the Chinese.
 
Good, that's their sphere of influence and Taiwan is part of China

The Orange Cheetolini is going to get a reality check




HONG KONG — China sent its sole aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday morning, Taiwan officials said, a defiant move that signals China’s growing naval strength and may foreshadow an early foreign policy challenge for President-elect Donald J. Trumpwhen he takes office in nine days.

The transit of the aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which had been conducting exercises in the South China Sea, comes amid rising tensions between Taiwan and China, and after Mr. Trump broke decades of protocol by speaking on the phone with Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, after his election victory. Ms. Tsai leads a political party that has traditionally supported Taiwan’s formal independence from China.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html

So one of our new Virginia Class Subs gets some target acquisition and screen avoidance practice.

Some sub skipper is probably chomping at the bit right now for some "fun"

;)

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Obama fellated the Chinese for his entire 8 years. He let them militarize the entire South China Sea AND steal our technology with no consequences!

A2DB7BC0-F9C9-49BC-BD30-897F1676A7E1_cx0_cy2_cw0_w987_r1_s_r1.jpg

Let's consider realpolitik before finger pointing.

Would it have made the world safer has the US sent a carrier group or two into the S. China Sea? Or drawn a line in the sea to confront China's ambition's?

What do you recommend, zero sum games, or diplomatic efforts to create win-win solutions?
 
Obama fellated the Chinese for his entire 8 years. He let them militarize the entire South China Sea AND steal our technology with no consequences!

A2DB7BC0-F9C9-49BC-BD30-897F1676A7E1_cx0_cy2_cw0_w987_r1_s_r1.jpg

Let's consider realpolitik before finger pointing.

Would it have made the world safer has the US sent a carrier group or two into the S. China Sea? Or drawn a line in the sea to confront China's ambition's?

What do you recommend, zero sum games, or diplomatic efforts to create win-win solutions?


Like bill and North Korea?

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Obama fellated the Chinese for his entire 8 years. He let them militarize the entire South China Sea AND steal our technology with no consequences!

A2DB7BC0-F9C9-49BC-BD30-897F1676A7E1_cx0_cy2_cw0_w987_r1_s_r1.jpg

Let's consider realpolitik before finger pointing.

Would it have made the world safer has the US sent a carrier group or two into the S. China Sea? Or drawn a line in the sea to confront China's ambition's?

What do you recommend, zero sum games, or diplomatic efforts to create win-win solutions?


Like bill and North Korea?

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Red herrring, non sequitur and not specific.
 
Obama fellated the Chinese for his entire 8 years. He let them militarize the entire South China Sea AND steal our technology with no consequences!

A2DB7BC0-F9C9-49BC-BD30-897F1676A7E1_cx0_cy2_cw0_w987_r1_s_r1.jpg

Let's consider realpolitik before finger pointing.

Would it have made the world safer has the US sent a carrier group or two into the S. China Sea? Or drawn a line in the sea to confront China's ambition's?

What do you recommend, zero sum games, or diplomatic efforts to create win-win solutions?

Fair question to a big and growing problem.

I'm a fan of "peace through strength". We didn't have to directly confront the Chinese in their vast build up, which is in clear violation of international treaties and disputing international waters, in the So. China Sea, but we could have expressed our concern and dissatisfaction for a start. Then we could have offered to supply Brunei, Philippines, Indonesia and Singapore weapons as a counterweight to the growing Dragon in So China Sea. $5 Trillion of shipping moves through those lanes. It might become a flash point and I wonder what our plan is.

In any event I'm glad Mattis will be the one directing planning and strategy
 
Obama fellated the Chinese for his entire 8 years. He let them militarize the entire South China Sea AND steal our technology with no consequences!

A2DB7BC0-F9C9-49BC-BD30-897F1676A7E1_cx0_cy2_cw0_w987_r1_s_r1.jpg

Let's consider realpolitik before finger pointing.

Would it have made the world safer has the US sent a carrier group or two into the S. China Sea? Or drawn a line in the sea to confront China's ambition's?

What do you recommend, zero sum games, or diplomatic efforts to create win-win solutions?

Fair question to a big and growing problem.

I'm a fan of "peace through strength". We didn't have to directly confront the Chinese in their vast build up, which is in clear violation of international treaties and disputing international waters, in the So. China Sea, but we could have expressed our concern and dissatisfaction for a start. Then we could have offered to supply Brunei, Philippines, Indonesia and Singapore weapons as a counterweight to the growing Dragon in So China Sea. $5 Trillion of shipping moves through those lanes. It might become a flash point and I wonder what our plan is.

In any event I'm glad Mattis will be the one directing planning and strategy

It is a growing problem, maybe The District ought to follow the lead of Gov. Brown and California in pursuing win-win policies on trade, and not engage in brinkmanship.

See: Office of Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. - Newsroom
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.

You too need a reality check, your ignorance is amazing:

How Much U.S. Debt Does China Own?
 
Good, that's their sphere of influence and Taiwan is part of China

The Orange Cheetolini is going to get a reality check




HONG KONG — China sent its sole aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday morning, Taiwan officials said, a defiant move that signals China’s growing naval strength and may foreshadow an early foreign policy challenge for President-elect Donald J. Trumpwhen he takes office in nine days.

The transit of the aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which had been conducting exercises in the South China Sea, comes amid rising tensions between Taiwan and China, and after Mr. Trump broke decades of protocol by speaking on the phone with Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, after his election victory. Ms. Tsai leads a political party that has traditionally supported Taiwan’s formal independence from China.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html
And yet we sell Taiwan military equipment.
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.


We have had tariff's on China for decades.

Of course Trump has threatened 30% tariff's on China.

Which translates to 30% higher costs for most of what Walmart customers buy.

And what will China do?

China will put similar tariff's on American imports- Boeing planes, agriculture(screw American farmers- they are getting too rich as it is!) and products from American manufacturers.

And then we get to plunge into a full blown trade war.

Sounds good- right?
 
Good, that's their sphere of influence and Taiwan is part of China

The Orange Cheetolini is going to get a reality check




HONG KONG — China sent its sole aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday morning, Taiwan officials said, a defiant move that signals China’s growing naval strength and may foreshadow an early foreign policy challenge for President-elect Donald J. Trumpwhen he takes office in nine days.

The transit of the aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which had been conducting exercises in the South China Sea, comes amid rising tensions between Taiwan and China, and after Mr. Trump broke decades of protocol by speaking on the phone with Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, after his election victory. Ms. Tsai leads a political party that has traditionally supported Taiwan’s formal independence from China.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html

So one of our new Virginia Class Subs gets some target acquisition and screen avoidance practice.

Some sub skipper is probably chomping at the bit right now for some "fun"

Guno rooting for the Chinese.





guano is a supporter of authoritarian regimes everywhere! Especially if they kill christians, gays, and "white" people. Just your below average racist bigot.
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.


We have had tariff's on China for decades.

Of course Trump has threatened 30% tariff's on China.

Which translates to 30% higher costs for most of what Walmart customers buy.

And what will China do?

China will put similar tariff's on American imports- Boeing planes, agriculture(screw American farmers- they are getting too rich as it is!) and products from American manufacturers.

And then we get to plunge into a full blown trade war.

Sounds good- right?


Sounds good to me...screw them all they do is steal from us. Without us buying their shit they are nothing.
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.


We have had tariff's on China for decades.

Of course Trump has threatened 30% tariff's on China.

Which translates to 30% higher costs for most of what Walmart customers buy.

And what will China do?

China will put similar tariff's on American imports- Boeing planes, agriculture(screw American farmers- they are getting too rich as it is!) and products from American manufacturers.

And then we get to plunge into a full blown trade war.

Sounds good- right?

The difference is China will have a hard time replacing the imports it imposes tarriffs on, especially the agricultural products, and some of the higher end products, like mining equipment, airplanes, and the like.

Couple that with it's own restive population, it has more to lose in a tit for tat fight than the US does.
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.


We have had tariff's on China for decades.

Of course Trump has threatened 30% tariff's on China.

Which translates to 30% higher costs for most of what Walmart customers buy.

And what will China do?

China will put similar tariff's on American imports- Boeing planes, agriculture(screw American farmers- they are getting too rich as it is!) and products from American manufacturers.

And then we get to plunge into a full blown trade war.

Sounds good- right?

It does sound good. We may actually stop rewarding China for shitting all over the environment and using their own people like slaves. China needs us a lot more than we need them.
 
Uh the current Pres is Obama. Funny how this is somehow Trump's fault. Let me guess, because Trump answered his phone on election night?

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll send these rats scurrying. All he has to do is threaten tariffs on China and they'll get down on their knees.


We have had tariff's on China for decades.

Of course Trump has threatened 30% tariff's on China.

Which translates to 30% higher costs for most of what Walmart customers buy.

And what will China do?

China will put similar tariff's on American imports- Boeing planes, agriculture(screw American farmers- they are getting too rich as it is!) and products from American manufacturers.

And then we get to plunge into a full blown trade war.

Sounds good- right?

It does sound good. We may actually stop rewarding China for shitting all over the environment and using their own people like slaves. China needs us a lot more than we need them.

I see your point.

Screw the American farmer and those good manufacturing jobs at Boeing.

Lets protect the Chinese environment.
 

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