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Because he doesn't have to. he doesn't need any other reason. So I guess your willing to admit now that while their is a right to seek collective bargaining, there is no right to actually be engaged in it.
Great point. Why won't Walker bargain with the union?
Good call, stupid.
Hmm When did the good folks of Wisconsin elect the union leadership to the state legislature in order that the Governor would have to "bargain" with them over legislative business? Got an election date to share with the rest of us?
Deflection.
Why won't Walker bargain with the union?
Fear? Is he afraid of Limbaugh like all the bagged out losers?
So do drug dealers. Does he have to meet with the head of the local gangs too?
Hmm When did the good folks of Wisconsin elect the union leadership to the state legislature in order that the Governor would have to "bargain" with them over legislative business? Got an election date to share with the rest of us?
Deflection.
Why won't Walker bargain with the union?
Fear? Is he afraid of Limbaugh like all the bagged out losers?
Thank you for this post. At least now we know that your argument up until this point has been totally hollow.
Because he doesn't have to. he doesn't need any other reason. So I guess your willing to admit now that while their is a right to seek collective bargaining, there is no right to actually be engaged in it.
That's technically correct, he doesn't have to.
Instead he can see his capitol besieged with 70K protesters for weeks and watch his government crumble. He's looking more and more like his own worst enemy. Such a shame.
I'll give that one, bennie boy.
Because he doesn't have to. he doesn't need any other reason. So I guess your willing to admit now that while their is a right to seek collective bargaining, there is no right to actually be engaged in it.
That's technically correct, he doesn't have to.
Instead he can see his capitol besieged with 70K protesters for weeks and watch his government crumble. He's looking more and more like his own worst enemy. Such a shame.
I'll give that one, bennie boy.
Why should he? It's not his job to "bargain with the union"
Yes it is. They work for the state of Wisconsin.
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No, it isn't. And are the unions currently negotiating their state contracts? You need to attempt to focus on the current issue. The LEGISLATURE is debating legislation that would change state law. Which union bosses have been elected to the state legislature in that they must be included in the process? If the unions want representation with the Governor, then perhaps they should call their run away Democrat senators to get their asses back to the Capitol and represent them.
And are the unions currently negotiating their state contracts? .
perhaps you could enlighten us all with the section that mandates anyone MUST negotiate with a union? Yes you can form one and no-one can stop you. yes you can have as its purpose "collective bargaining", no, you cannot force anyone to bargain with you.Does the US Constitution ban collective bargaining?
I thought these corporate water carriers/teabaggers were bigtime Constitution fans, no?
WTF?
Wingnuts like to ignore what they don't like in the U.S. Constitution, perhaps instead of just keeping a copy in their back pockets and sitting on it, they should actually read it.
By default, the Constitution grants all rights not enumerated:
Article [IX]
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
It will be freakin' hilarious if the Dems get booted and Republicans are voted in to replace them.
It will be freakin' hilarious if the Dems get booted and Republicans are voted in to replace them.
The Repukes are already in the majority, brainiac.
wow
Walker is GAINING support, not losing it. ]
There are THREE Branches Of Government...
*POP QUIZ*
How much of the three do Republicans hold majority over?
Are people so blind that they cannot see what is happening in other parts of the country. The states that are "Right to Work" states are booming, have jobs available and have the lowest tax rates. States that are "Union" are losing population (heading to the states mentioned earlier), taxes are higher and job growth is DEAD!
The unions have long outlived their usefulness.
When there is a better way of doing things looking you right in the eye you need to pay attention.
CHANGE is not a 4 letter word.
and? Which sentence of the statutes against murder and robbery should we exempt people from?i believe there are several large low paying employers who provide HCI that does not meet the criteria for being considered "adequate" under the new rules (not enough coverage)
There are plans that can't meet the annual limit thresholds being phased in between now and 2014. That's why some plans are applying for waivers (the union-related share is about 700,000 covered lives or about a third). In just over two and a half years when people can start buying coverage through exchanges, those plans will cease to exist.
The insinuations that these are 1) waivers of more than one sentence of the law
when did I ever insinuate such a thing? Oh, thats right... I didn't2) applicable to all unions or even exclusively to unions,
Go back to "and?" and read again3) permanent,
and you inferred that from any post of mine... where?and 4) being denied to non-administration supporters, are all false.
according to everthing I've read they areunion policies I believe are exempted from the "gold plated" tax on excessive coverage.
No, they aren't.
Unions Negotiate Exemption From Cadillac TaxUnder the terms of the proposed deal, the threshold for families would be raised to $24,000, and would exempt certain benefits like vision and dental, according to a Democratic source.
Collectively bargained plans would be exempted until 2017, to provide workers with a real opportunity to renegotiate their benefits packages, which were designed under current law and excluded from taxation.
The Repukes are already in the majority, brainiac.
wow
There are THREE Branches Of Government...
*POP QUIZ*
How much of the three do Republicans hold majority over?
I didn't know there was Rs and Ds on the SCOTUS.
I'm learning so much from you.
The members work for the state, the "union" doesn't work for anybody and the state is under no legal obligation to negotiate with them.Why should he? It's not his job to "bargain with the union"
Yes it is. They work for the state of Wisconsin.
Pay attention, stupid.
And are the unions currently negotiating their state contracts? .
They offered to do just that. Walker refused.
You only watch Fixed News there, tiger?
wow
Your assertion that a few thousand (not 70) protesters will bring his "government down" is yet unproven, and likely will never be proven. The voters have spoken, and thier votes count more than your whining.Because he doesn't have to. he doesn't need any other reason. So I guess your willing to admit now that while their is a right to seek collective bargaining, there is no right to actually be engaged in it.
That's technically correct, he doesn't have to.
Instead he can see his capitol besieged with 70K protesters for weeks and watch his government crumble. He's looking more and more like his own worst enemy. Such a shame.
I'll give that one, bennie boy.
The members work for the state, the "union" doesn't work for anybody and the state is under no legal obligation to negotiate with them.Why should he? It's not his job to "bargain with the union"
Yes it is. They work for the state of Wisconsin.
Pay attention, stupid.
