Colorado Democrat Pushing Anti-Gun Laws Shows How Little She Knows About Guns

[mudwhistle]

CO Dem Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO): "I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available." (April 2, 2013, Denver Post forum)


Posted By Ian Schwartz
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I think it would be extremely important for anyone who is pushing a law to understand the issue. Don't you think?

Later on after making her lack of knowledge about guns known she jokenly said a concerned citizen would probably die waiting for the police to show up if attacked in their own home.

Way to win the argument.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) strikes again and insults a senior citizen concerned about how he is supposed to defend himself against criminals who have high-capacity magazines if they are banned. She says to wait for the police and otherwise he'd "probably be dead anyway."​

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._high-capacity_magazines_can_be_reloaded.html

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama has more serious issues to deal with. He still hasn't submitted a budget, he has a foreign policy crisis with N. Korea, he still has a lousy job market that he has greatly contributed to, he has an economy that isn't growing at all. They have to monkey with the numbers just to give them positive growth. Matter of fact we are currently in another Recession yet nobody would know it because of the dishonesty of government accounting offices.

Why is Obama wasting everyone's time with this gun bullshit?

Because like I stated clearly last year, this issue is the only one that matters to him. I knew it would be his only focus. He feels that as long as he's on this issue nobody can hammer him about the economy or his terrible foreign policy decisions.

 

[velvtacheeze]

CO Dem Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO): "I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available." (April 2, 2013, Denver Post forum)


Posted By Ian Schwartz
​

I think it would be extremely important for anyone who is pushing a law to understand the issue. Don't you think?

Later on after making her lack of knowledge about guns known she jokenly said a concerned citizen would probably die waiting for the police to show up if attacked in their own home.

Way to win the argument.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) strikes again and insults a senior citizen concerned about how he is supposed to defend himself against criminals who have high-capacity magazines if they are banned. She says to wait for the police and otherwise he'd "probably be dead anyway."​

CO Democrat Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded | RealClearPolitics

Here's what I know: The UK, Canada and Australia have lower levels of gun ownership, and therefore less gun violence. In the USA, where guns are ubiquitous, so is gun violence.

 

[mudwhistle]

CO Dem Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO): "I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available." (April 2, 2013, Denver Post forum)


Posted By Ian Schwartz
​

I think it would be extremely important for anyone who is pushing a law to understand the issue. Don't you think?

Later on after making her lack of knowledge about guns known she jokenly said a concerned citizen would probably die waiting for the police to show up if attacked in their own home.

Way to win the argument.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) strikes again and insults a senior citizen concerned about how he is supposed to defend himself against criminals who have high-capacity magazines if they are banned. She says to wait for the police and otherwise he'd "probably be dead anyway."​

CO Democrat Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded | RealClearPolitics

Here's what I know: The UK, Canada and Australia have lower levels of gun ownership, and therefore less gun violence. In the USA, where guns are ubiquitous, so is gun violence.

They also have fewer people and no 2nd Amendment.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.


Seems to me all of this gun talk is breeding more gun violence. I'm sure the mainstreamers know this too.

 

[mudwhistle]

CO Dem Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO): "I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available." (April 2, 2013, Denver Post forum)


Posted By Ian Schwartz
​

I think it would be extremely important for anyone who is pushing a law to understand the issue. Don't you think?

Later on after making her lack of knowledge about guns known she jokenly said a concerned citizen would probably die waiting for the police to show up if attacked in their own home.

Way to win the argument.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) strikes again and insults a senior citizen concerned about how he is supposed to defend himself against criminals who have high-capacity magazines if they are banned. She says to wait for the police and otherwise he'd "probably be dead anyway."​

CO Democrat Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded | RealClearPolitics

Here's what I know: The UK, Canada and Australia have lower levels of gun ownership, and therefore less gun violence. In the USA, where guns are ubiquitous, so is gun violence.

They also have fewer people.
But don't let the facts get in the way of your argument dude.

Then there's the fact that they have no 2nd Amendment. That's a sticking point the left wants to get around.


Seems to me all of this gun talk is breeding more gun violence. I'm sure the mainstreamers know this too. My guess is they want more gun violence just so they can prove their point.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Obama has more serious issues to deal with. He still hasn't submitted a budget, he has a foreign policy crisis with N. Korea, he still has a lousy job market that he has greatly contributed to, he has an economy that isn't growing at all. They have to monkey with the numbers just to give them positive growth. Matter of fact we are currently in another Recession yet nobody would know it because of the dishonesty of government accounting offices.

Why is Obama wasting everyone's time with this gun bullshit?

Because like I stated clearly last year, this issue is the only one that matters to him. I knew it would be his only focus. He feels that as long as he's on this issue nobody can hammer him about the economy or his terrible foreign policy decisions.

Go tell the moms of Newtown that he should do nothing about guns.

Some muslim convert tries to blow up a plane with a rigged pair of shoes, and the GOP-created TSA makes us all take off our shoes at the airport. And the attack failed. Mass shooting after mass shooting takes place, with actually lives lost, and the GOP insists on no changes.

 

[martybegan]

Obama has more serious issues to deal with. He still hasn't submitted a budget, he has a foreign policy crisis with N. Korea, he still has a lousy job market that he has greatly contributed to, he has an economy that isn't growing at all. They have to monkey with the numbers just to give them positive growth. Matter of fact we are currently in another Recession yet nobody would know it because of the dishonesty of government accounting offices.

Why is Obama wasting everyone's time with this gun bullshit?

Because like I stated clearly last year, this issue is the only one that matters to him. I knew it would be his only focus. He feels that as long as he's on this issue nobody can hammer him about the economy or his terrible foreign policy decisions.

Go tell the moms of Newtown that he should do nothing about guns.

Some muslim convert tries to blow up a plane with a rigged pair of shoes, and the GOP-created TSA makes us all take off our shoes at the airport. And the attack failed. Mass shooting after mass shooting takes place, with actually lives lost, and the GOP insists on no changes.

and your side insists on ignoring the consitution when it so pleases you.

You have no right to get on a plane without removing your shoes, your right to bear arms is "not to be infringed."

Deal with it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Obama has more serious issues to deal with. He still hasn't submitted a budget, he has a foreign policy crisis with N. Korea, he still has a lousy job market that he has greatly contributed to, he has an economy that isn't growing at all. They have to monkey with the numbers just to give them positive growth. Matter of fact we are currently in another Recession yet nobody would know it because of the dishonesty of government accounting offices.

Why is Obama wasting everyone's time with this gun bullshit?

Because like I stated clearly last year, this issue is the only one that matters to him. I knew it would be his only focus. He feels that as long as he's on this issue nobody can hammer him about the economy or his terrible foreign policy decisions.

Go tell the moms of Newtown that he should do nothing about guns.

Some muslim convert tries to blow up a plane with a rigged pair of shoes, and the GOP-created TSA makes us all take off our shoes at the airport. And the attack failed. Mass shooting after mass shooting takes place, with actually lives lost, and the GOP insists on no changes.

and your side insists on ignoring the consitution when it so pleases you.

You have no right to get on a plane without removing your shoes, your right to bear arms is "not to be infringed."

Deal with it.

problem is banning guns

does not solve the problem

only adds to the problem

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama has more serious issues to deal with. He still hasn't submitted a budget, he has a foreign policy crisis with N. Korea, he still has a lousy job market that he has greatly contributed to, he has an economy that isn't growing at all. They have to monkey with the numbers just to give them positive growth. Matter of fact we are currently in another Recession yet nobody would know it because of the dishonesty of government accounting offices.

Why is Obama wasting everyone's time with this gun bullshit?

Because like I stated clearly last year, this issue is the only one that matters to him. I knew it would be his only focus. He feels that as long as he's on this issue nobody can hammer him about the economy or his terrible foreign policy decisions.

Go tell the moms of Newtown that he should do nothing about guns.

Some muslim convert tries to blow up a plane with a rigged pair of shoes, and the GOP-created TSA makes us all take off our shoes at the airport. And the attack failed. Mass shooting after mass shooting takes place, with actually lives lost, and the GOP insists on no changes.

You're crazy. Obama has unionized the TSA. He and Big Sis own them.

Oh, and like I said, the media knows that copy-cats will follow massive media coverage of anything. If they had story after story of people jumping off a cliff all of the sudden a bunch of idiots would be looking for cliffs to jump off of. Right now what's in vogue is shooting your boss or whomever you hate.

 

[velvtacheeze]

CO Dem Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO): "I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available." (April 2, 2013, Denver Post forum)


Posted By Ian Schwartz
​

I think it would be extremely important for anyone who is pushing a law to understand the issue. Don't you think?

Later on after making her lack of knowledge about guns known she jokenly said a concerned citizen would probably die waiting for the police to show up if attacked in their own home.

Way to win the argument.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) strikes again and insults a senior citizen concerned about how he is supposed to defend himself against criminals who have high-capacity magazines if they are banned. She says to wait for the police and otherwise he'd "probably be dead anyway."​

CO Democrat Doesn't Understand High-Capacity Magazines Can Be Reloaded | RealClearPolitics

Here's what I know: The UK, Canada and Australia have lower levels of gun ownership, and therefore less gun violence. In the USA, where guns are ubiquitous, so is gun violence.

They also have fewer people and no 2nd Amendment.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.


Seems to me all of this gun talk is breeding more gun violence. I'm sure the mainstreamers know this too.

Their rates of gun violence would be higher if population had anything to do with it. And their lack of 2nd amendment has nothing to do with it either, since we do not correctly follow the 2nd amendment. The first clause is totally ignored, as gun owners are not required to be in any well-regulated militia, as they should be.

The UK, Canada and Australia are all three foreign models on what a good gun policy should be in the USA, and if we adopted any one of them, our gun violence levels would plummet.

The GOP & NRA have completely dominated on gun laws & policies for decades now, and the blood-soaked results are in the news everyday.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Obama has more serious issues to deal with. He still hasn't submitted a budget, he has a foreign policy crisis with N. Korea, he still has a lousy job market that he has greatly contributed to, he has an economy that isn't growing at all. They have to monkey with the numbers just to give them positive growth. Matter of fact we are currently in another Recession yet nobody would know it because of the dishonesty of government accounting offices.

Why is Obama wasting everyone's time with this gun bullshit?

Because like I stated clearly last year, this issue is the only one that matters to him. I knew it would be his only focus. He feels that as long as he's on this issue nobody can hammer him about the economy or his terrible foreign policy decisions.

Go tell the moms of Newtown that he should do nothing about guns.

Some muslim convert tries to blow up a plane with a rigged pair of shoes, and the GOP-created TSA makes us all take off our shoes at the airport. And the attack failed. Mass shooting after mass shooting takes place, with actually lives lost, and the GOP insists on no changes.

and your side insists on ignoring the consitution when it so pleases you.

You have no right to get on a plane without removing your shoes, your right to bear arms is "not to be infringed."

Deal with it.

We are dealing with it, and the Right will eventually lose. The gun crazies insistence on no changes to gun laws will eventually backfire.

 

[martybegan]

Here's what I know: The UK, Canada and Australia have lower levels of gun ownership, and therefore less gun violence. In the USA, where guns are ubiquitous, so is gun violence.

They also have fewer people and no 2nd Amendment.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.


Seems to me all of this gun talk is breeding more gun violence. I'm sure the mainstreamers know this too.

Their rates of gun violence would be higher if population had anything to do with it. And their lack of 2nd amendment has nothing to do with it either, since we do not correctly follow the 2nd amendment. The first clause is totally ignored, as gun owners are not required to be in any well-regulated militia, as they should be.

The UK, Canada and Australia are all three foreign models on what a good gun policy should be in the USA, and if we adopted any one of them, our gun violence levels would plummet.

The GOP & NRA have completely dominated on gun laws & policies for decades now, and the blood-soaked results are in the news everyday.

The milita, when called by the state is to be well regulated. The PEOPLE retain the right to keep and bear arms, not the state, and not the milita. That right is also "not to be infringed". It is not the people's fault that the states have not called up the unorganized milita in decades.

 

[martybegan]

Go tell the moms of Newtown that he should do nothing about guns.

Some muslim convert tries to blow up a plane with a rigged pair of shoes, and the GOP-created TSA makes us all take off our shoes at the airport. And the attack failed. Mass shooting after mass shooting takes place, with actually lives lost, and the GOP insists on no changes.

and your side insists on ignoring the consitution when it so pleases you.

You have no right to get on a plane without removing your shoes, your right to bear arms is "not to be infringed."

Deal with it.

We are dealing with it, and the Right will eventually lose. The gun crazies insistence on no changes to gun laws will eventually backfire.

And the people that passed those bullshit gun grabber laws when in NY, CT and CO will deal with it the next election cycle. Cuomo's ratings dropped like a rock after he passed the law. I wonder why is that. Alot of upstate NY legislators are also screwed.

 

[rdean]

Republicans know very little about science. So maybe it's a "draw".

 

[velvtacheeze]

They also have fewer people and no 2nd Amendment.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.


Seems to me all of this gun talk is breeding more gun violence. I'm sure the mainstreamers know this too.

Their rates of gun violence would be higher if population had anything to do with it. And their lack of 2nd amendment has nothing to do with it either, since we do not correctly follow the 2nd amendment. The first clause is totally ignored, as gun owners are not required to be in any well-regulated militia, as they should be.

The UK, Canada and Australia are all three foreign models on what a good gun policy should be in the USA, and if we adopted any one of them, our gun violence levels would plummet.

The GOP & NRA have completely dominated on gun laws & policies for decades now, and the blood-soaked results are in the news everyday.

The milita, when called by the state is to be well regulated. The PEOPLE retain the right to keep and bear arms, not the state, and not the milita. That right is also "not to be infringed". It is not the people's fault that the states have not called up the unorganized milita in decades.

This guy's gun rights weren't infringed, that's for sure:

Eugene Crum Dead: Mingo County Sheriff Fatally Shot Near West Virginia Courthouse (UPDATE)

Mingo County Sheriff Eugene Crum was fatally shot Wednesday outside the Mingo County courthouse, WCHS reports.

The courthouse, located in Williamson, W. Va., has been evacuated, WSAZ reports.

WCHS reports that a suspect has been taken into custody.

The suspect was shot but is "alert and talking," and has been taken to the hospital, according to the Charleston Daily Mail. He was shot while attempting to flee the crime scene, West Virginia State Police said, according to WSAZ.

Crum was eating lunch when a suspect drove by and fired at him, a county commissioner said, according to the Charleston Daily Mail. West Virginia House Delegate Justin Marcum said Crum enjoyed having his lunch in a place where he could see a former "pill mill" that was raided in 2010, the paper reported.

Crum was reportedly in his car when another vehicle pulled up alongside him. When Crum rolled down the window, he was shot twice, Marcum said, according to Charleston Daily Mail reporter Dave Boucher.


This murder is the fault of the GOP & NRA for doing nothing about lax gun ownership policies.

 

[velvtacheeze]

and your side insists on ignoring the consitution when it so pleases you.

You have no right to get on a plane without removing your shoes, your right to bear arms is "not to be infringed."

Deal with it.

We are dealing with it, and the Right will eventually lose. The gun crazies insistence on no changes to gun laws will eventually backfire.

And the people that passed those bullshit gun grabber laws when in NY, CT and CO will deal with it the next election cycle. Cuomo's ratings dropped like a rock after he passed the law. I wonder why is that. Alot of upstate NY legislators are also screwed.

So? Any blowback is 'the lesser of two evils'. It will have been worth it, just like passing Obamacare was worth the blowback that put the GOP back in control (for now) of the House.

This is a fight worth having, because I'm confident any losses to Dems will only be temporary.

 

[ba1614]

The best weapon in this debate for those of us who value our freedoms is to just let progressives talk. The ignorance is truly astounding.

 

[martybegan]

Their rates of gun violence would be higher if population had anything to do with it. And their lack of 2nd amendment has nothing to do with it either, since we do not correctly follow the 2nd amendment. The first clause is totally ignored, as gun owners are not required to be in any well-regulated militia, as they should be.

The UK, Canada and Australia are all three foreign models on what a good gun policy should be in the USA, and if we adopted any one of them, our gun violence levels would plummet.

The GOP & NRA have completely dominated on gun laws & policies for decades now, and the blood-soaked results are in the news everyday.

The milita, when called by the state is to be well regulated. The PEOPLE retain the right to keep and bear arms, not the state, and not the milita. That right is also "not to be infringed". It is not the people's fault that the states have not called up the unorganized milita in decades.

This guy's gun rights weren't infringed, that's for sure:

Eugene Crum Dead: Mingo County Sheriff Fatally Shot Near West Virginia Courthouse (UPDATE)

Mingo County Sheriff Eugene Crum was fatally shot Wednesday outside the Mingo County courthouse, WCHS reports.

The courthouse, located in Williamson, W. Va., has been evacuated, WSAZ reports.

WCHS reports that a suspect has been taken into custody.

The suspect was shot but is "alert and talking," and has been taken to the hospital, according to the Charleston Daily Mail. He was shot while attempting to flee the crime scene, West Virginia State Police said, according to WSAZ.

Crum was eating lunch when a suspect drove by and fired at him, a county commissioner said, according to the Charleston Daily Mail. West Virginia House Delegate Justin Marcum said Crum enjoyed having his lunch in a place where he could see a former "pill mill" that was raided in 2010, the paper reported.

Crum was reportedly in his car when another vehicle pulled up alongside him. When Crum rolled down the window, he was shot twice, Marcum said, according to Charleston Daily Mail reporter Dave Boucher.


This murder is the fault of the GOP & NRA for doing nothing about lax gun ownership policies.

The murder is the fault of the murderer. Also, there is no indication on the nature of the person who did the shooting, so you cannot yet know if any gun control law would have prevented this.

How does it feel washing yourself in the blood of the dead to push your political agenda?

 

[martybegan]

We are dealing with it, and the Right will eventually lose. The gun crazies insistence on no changes to gun laws will eventually backfire.

And the people that passed those bullshit gun grabber laws when in NY, CT and CO will deal with it the next election cycle. Cuomo's ratings dropped like a rock after he passed the law. I wonder why is that. Alot of upstate NY legislators are also screwed.

So? Any blowback is 'the lesser of two evils'. It will have been worth it, just like passing Obamacare was worth the blowback that put the GOP back in control (for now) of the House.

This is a fight worth having, because I'm confident any losses to Dems will only be temporary.

So we squash peoples rights "for the greater good"

You are a government dick sucking sheep.

 

[velvtacheeze]

The milita, when called by the state is to be well regulated. The PEOPLE retain the right to keep and bear arms, not the state, and not the milita. That right is also "not to be infringed". It is not the people's fault that the states have not called up the unorganized milita in decades.

This guy's gun rights weren't infringed, that's for sure:

Eugene Crum Dead: Mingo County Sheriff Fatally Shot Near West Virginia Courthouse (UPDATE)

Mingo County Sheriff Eugene Crum was fatally shot Wednesday outside the Mingo County courthouse, WCHS reports.

The courthouse, located in Williamson, W. Va., has been evacuated, WSAZ reports.

WCHS reports that a suspect has been taken into custody.

The suspect was shot but is "alert and talking," and has been taken to the hospital, according to the Charleston Daily Mail. He was shot while attempting to flee the crime scene, West Virginia State Police said, according to WSAZ.

Crum was eating lunch when a suspect drove by and fired at him, a county commissioner said, according to the Charleston Daily Mail. West Virginia House Delegate Justin Marcum said Crum enjoyed having his lunch in a place where he could see a former "pill mill" that was raided in 2010, the paper reported.

Crum was reportedly in his car when another vehicle pulled up alongside him. When Crum rolled down the window, he was shot twice, Marcum said, according to Charleston Daily Mail reporter Dave Boucher.


This murder is the fault of the GOP & NRA for doing nothing about lax gun ownership policies.

The murder is the fault of the murderer. Also, there is no indication on the nature of the person who did the shooting, so you cannot yet know if any gun control law would have prevented this.

How does it feel washing yourself in the blood of the dead to push your political agenda?

We know that he did not use the gun for self-protection, and none of his rights were being violated by a sheriff eating in his car. You gun CRAZIES are unbelievable. A sheriff is murdered in cold blood, and you still resist any changes to gun laws. This brittleness is eventually going to cost the Right politically. I just wish it happened sooner.

And its your side that is soaked in blood. The gun laws & policies are pretty much the way the NRA and GOP wants them to be, so murders like we saw in WV are your sides creation, and your sides fault.