comgress polarized? blame the GOP

[DiamondDave]

Again... Harry Reid shelving budgetary bills is what??

 

[Listening]

The Emerging Democratic Divide - Josh Kraushaar - NationalJournal.com

Conversations with liberal activists and labor officials reveal an unmistakable hostility toward the pro-business, free-trade, free-market philosophy that was in vogue during the second half of the Clinton administration. Former White House Chief of Staff William Daley, who tried to steer the Obama administration in a more centrist direction, is the subject of particular derision. Discussion of entitlement reforms, at the heart of the GOP governing agenda, is a nonstarter. The fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats are now nearly extinct on Capitol Hill.

Moderate Democratic groups and officials, meanwhile, privately fret about the party’s leftward drift and the Obama campaign’s embrace of an aggressively populist message. They’re disappointed that the administration didn’t take the lead advancing the Simpson-Bowles deficit-reduction proposal, they wish the administration’s focus was on growth over fairness, and they are frustrated with the persistent congressional gridlock. Third Way, the centrist Democratic think tank, has been generating analyses underscoring the need for Democrats to appeal to middle-of-the-road voters, to no avail.

“There are not a lot of moderates left in the Democratic Party, and Cory is one of the few of them left,” said former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, an early Obama ally who has become increasingly estranged from the party. “I would like to think Cory speaks for a lot of voters in the Democratic Party, but sadly he doesn’t speak for a lot of Democratic operatives within the party. This isn’t Bill Clinton’s Democratic Party anymore.”

 

[tjvh]

Why do you defend the horrible tactics of the republican party in congress to subvert the peoples choices

Why do you defend Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats?

Because they are trying to defend what the people voted for.

Unlike the republicans who are subverting the founders wishes

The people voted OVERWHELMINGLY against the Democrats in 2010... What are you talking about? You contradict yourself at every turn.

 

[naturegirl]

what the republicans are doing is controling the government so it will fail

If by Government, you mean the "agenda" of Barry Soetoro, then by all means.... Pleeeeeeeeeeease let it FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the American people chose him.

You have just wished for America to fail

thanks for proving my point

But he's not the majority now is he?? Republicans hold the majority in Congress and Washington.

 

[Truthmatters]

and now they hate them

 

[Truthmatters]

If by Government, you mean the "agenda" of Barry Soetoro, then by all means.... Pleeeeeeeeeeease let it FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the American people chose him.

You have just wished for America to fail

thanks for proving my point

But he's not the majority now is he?? Republicans hold the majority in Congress and Washington.

That is a fucking lie

 

[naturegirl]

the American people chose him.

You have just wished for America to fail

thanks for proving my point

But he's not the majority now is he?? Republicans hold the majority in Congress and Washington.

That is a fucking lie

I gave you the numbers, you lie. Republicans 293, Dems 247. Just google it, it's a fact and the truth.

 

[Listening]

the American people chose him.

You have just wished for America to fail

thanks for proving my point

But he's not the majority now is he?? Republicans hold the majority in Congress and Washington.

That is a fucking lie

Med time !!!

 

[SniperFire]

But he's not the majority now is he?? Republicans hold the majority in Congress and Washington.

That is a fucking lie

I gave you the numbers, you lie. Republicans 293, Dems 247. Just google it, it's a fact and the truth.

LOL

More butthurt for Poop Splatters.

 

[naturegirl]

I'm waiting for the meltdown. It makes me laugh.

A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51 percent of the people may take away the rights of the other 49." ~ Thomas Jefferson

 

[DiamondDave]

But he's not the majority now is he?? Republicans hold the majority in Congress and Washington.

That is a fucking lie

I gave you the numbers, you lie. Republicans 293, Dems 247. Just google it, it's a fact and the truth.

According to TDM... either 247>293.. or it is just that whatever she wants HAS to be the majority or inherently what the founders wanted

 

[Avatar4321]

The republicans are subverting the founders wishes with their scorched earth tactics

You do realize that the Founders designed the system to specifically create gridlock, right?

 

[DiamondDave]

Admins.. please change TDM's username to BitchSlapped

 

[naturegirl]

I'm still waiting for volunteers to tell Barry and Harry majority rules. Anyone?? Bueller??

 

[Immanuel]

Yes they do and the republicans have cheated for decades in elections

Do you realize that he was writing about you? No, of course you don't. That too was over your head.

It is Democrats that oppose Voter ID Laws BECAUSE they encourage people who can not legally vote to vote knowing that the vast majority of people who can not legally vote are illegal aliens who tend to vote for the free hand outs the Democrats offer them.

Thus, it was you and your insipid party that tjvh meant when he/she stated that "some seem to conveniently forget". Get a clue!

Immie

That is nothing but unfounded lies.

how christiany of you

It is what you have been demanding for several years now. Don't give me your shit, B.B.

You and your party oppose Voter ID Laws because you know that not requiring ID allows illegal aliens to vote. You give free hand outs to illegal aliens for those votes. Buying votes is unethical. That is the DNC way.

How patriotic of you to support them. Not!

Immie

 

[Papageorgio]

They are NOT the same you lying ack of shit

They are the same, they are procedural rules. They are both used by both parties, if you want them to end a simple 51 majority will end them.

 

[peach174]

Do you realize that he was writing about you? No, of course you don't. That too was over your head.

It is Democrats that oppose Voter ID Laws BECAUSE they encourage people who can not legally vote to vote knowing that the vast majority of people who can not legally vote are illegal aliens who tend to vote for the free hand outs the Democrats offer them.

Thus, it was you and your insipid party that tjvh meant when he/she stated that "some seem to conveniently forget". Get a clue!

Immie

That is nothing but unfounded lies.

how christiany of you

It is what you have been demanding for several years now. Don't give me your shit, B.B.

You and your party oppose Voter ID Laws because you know that not requiring ID allows illegal aliens to vote. You give free hand outs to illegal aliens for those votes. Buying votes is unethical. That is the DNC way.

How patriotic of you to support them. Not!

Immie

Dem's are trying to get bills for illegals to have Driver Licenses. They say because it's for safety reasons. Never mind it has never ever been a problem,till I.D. laws.
Yeah right. It's so that they can keep the illegals votes.
It's no coincidence that they are pushing for it.
The bills can't get out of the committees, not enough votes.

 

[naturegirl]

That is nothing but unfounded lies.

how christiany of you

It is what you have been demanding for several years now. Don't give me your shit, B.B.

You and your party oppose Voter ID Laws because you know that not requiring ID allows illegal aliens to vote. You give free hand outs to illegal aliens for those votes. Buying votes is unethical. That is the DNC way.

How patriotic of you to support them. Not!

Immie

Dem's are trying to get bills for illegals to have Driver Licenses. They say because it's for safety reasons. Never mind it has never ever been a problem,till I.D. laws.
Yeah right. It's so that they can keep the illegals votes.
It's no coincidence that they are pushing for it.
The bills can't get out of the committees, not enough votes.

You don't have to prove citizenship in many states to get a Driver's License. That should be the next item on the agenda for states.

 

[Immanuel]

They are NOT the same you lying ack of shit

They are the same, they are procedural rules. They are both used by both parties, if you want them to end a simple 51 majority will end them.

You said that earlier.

Just for the record, it takes more than a simple majority to bring about cloture of a filibuster. Currently it takes 60 Senators to end a filibuster.

Cloture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The three-fifths version of the cloture rule does not apply to motions to end filibusters relating to Senate Rule changes. To invoke cloture to end debate over changing the Senate Rules, the original version of the rule (two-thirds of those Senators "present and voting") still applies.[12]

The procedure for "invoking cloture," or ending a filibuster, is as follows:
A minimum of sixteen senators must sign a petition for cloture.
The petition may be presented by interrupting another Senator's speech.
The clerk reads the petition.
The cloture petition is ignored for one full day during which the Senate is sitting. For example, if the petition is filed on Monday, it is ignored until Wednesday. (If the petition is filed on a Friday, it is ignored until Tuesday, assuming that the Senate did not sit on Saturday or Sunday.)[13]
On the second calendar day during which the Senate sits after the presentation of the petition, after the Senate has been sitting for one hour, a "quorum call" is undertaken to ensure that a majority of the Senators are present. However, the mandatory quorum call is often waived by unanimous consent.
The President of the Senate or President pro tempore presents the petition.
The Senate votes on the petition; three-fifths of the whole number of Senators (sixty with no vacancies) is the required majority; however, when cloture is invoked on a question of changing the rules of the Senate, two-thirds of the Senators voting (not necessarily two-thirds of all Senators) is the requisite majority. This is commonly referred to in the news media as a "test vote".

After cloture has been invoked, the following restrictions apply:
No more than thirty hours of debate may occur.[14]
No Senator may speak for more than one hour.
No amendments may be moved unless they were filed on the day in between the presentation of the petition and the actual cloture vote.
All amendments must be relevant to the debate.
Certain procedural motions are not permissible.
The presiding officer gains additional power in controlling debate.
No other matters may be considered until the question upon which cloture was invoked is disposed of.

The ability to invoke cloture was last attained by a US political party in the 111th Congress, by the Democrats, with the help of two independents.[15]

Or were you speaking of bringing an end to the procedure itself?

Immie

 

[tjvh]

what the republicans are doing is controling the government so it will fail

If by Government, you mean the "agenda" of Barry Soetoro, then by all means.... Pleeeeeeeeeeease let it FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the American people chose him.

You have just wished for America to fail

thanks for proving my point

Wishing for Obama's (pay attention) "POL.... I .... CIES" to fail, is MUCH different than wishing America fails. The only thing you have proven here today is that rather than waste precious time on your computer debating topics you are uninformed about, you would be better served sitting in a classroom advancing your education, if that is possible. You are living proof that the "intellectual elite" of the "occupy" movement surely do have wifi capabilities in their tents.