Concealed Handgun Permit Holder Stops Mass Public Shooting In Brownsburg, Indiana

[basquebromance]

guns are a good thing!

from the article:

“This tragic event could have been much more disastrous. So, victim three not only saved victim two’s life, but he saved potentially the lives of many others,” BPD Capt. Jennifer Barrett

Concealed Handgun Permit Holder Stops Mass Public Shooting in Brownsburg, Indiana - Crime Prevention Research Center

Here is another example where police have said that if it wasn't for the presence of a legal concealed handgun permit holder many others could have been killed. Fortunately, one of the people wounded in the shooting had a permitted concealed handgun and was able to then get out of his car and...

crimeresearch.org

 

[justinacolmena]

guns are a good thing!

There's an example but a trap. You get fingerprinted like a criminal for a concealed carry permit, and it goes on your record like a felony, shoot on sight, if they ever let you out of prison for it, regardless of whether you are in the right or in the wrong with your actions.

 

[Mac-7]

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

notice the age of the killer

he is an example of modern lib culture driving the kids completely crazy

 

[Ridgerunner]

It will cost you a Benjamin, but well worth the peace of mind...

 

[Picaro]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

NB4:

 

[2aguy]

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

notice the age of the killer

he is an example of modern lib culture driving the kids completely crazy

Well.......you say that now. Until you are in jail, in debt and losing everything you own, your job, your house.......just because you defended yourself or your family and some asshole, democrat party prosecutor is punishing you because that democrat party prosecutor doesn't think you should have had a gun.....

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

We need to get the laws changed so that you can do either one, without fees, or training requirements in all 50 states.

 

[Picaro]

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

notice the age of the killer

he is an example of modern lib culture driving the kids completely crazy

Well.......you say that now. Until you are in jail, in debt and losing everything you own, your job, your house.......just because you defended yourself or your family and some asshole, democrat party prosecutor is punishing you because that democrat party prosecutor doesn't think you should have had a gun.....

Let's tell the whole truth here and also point out Georgia's top Republcians are also on the lynch mob train, speaking of assholes.

 

[Mac-7]

Well.......you say that now. Until you are in jail, in debt and losing everything you own, your job, your house...

What is the alternative?

the left means business and they have no fear of law enforcement anywhere democrats are in charge

who will allow their home to be burned down or their family attacked and killed when they have the means to fight back?

 

[Picaro]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

We need to get the laws changed so that you can do either one, without fees, or training requirements in all 50 states.

Open carry is more of a laibility than a benefit. Training is a necessity these days; we're no longer a half rural country where people get their first firearms at 9 or 10 and are taught safety and use early in their lives. A 30 year old buying his first pistol and isn't required to get training to carry is a menace, not an asset. Those people should leave them at home, and most especially not allowed open carry, where they will just be more likely to just be mugged and have it taken from them or shoot themselves.

 

[2aguy]

Well.......you say that now. Until you are in jail, in debt and losing everything you own, your job, your house...

What is the alternative?

the left means business and they have no fear of law enforcement anywhere democrats are in charge

who will allow their home to be burned down or their family attacked and killed when they have the means to fight back?

Not saying it isn't true...but it is a little unreal to think that just being alive is enough.......we need to fight to make sure that people who use guns for self defense don't have to fear those 12 people judging them.

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

We need to get the laws changed so that you can do either one, without fees, or training requirements in all 50 states.

Open carry is more of a laibility than a benefit. Training is a necessity these days; we're no longer a half rural country where people get their first firearms at 9 or 10 and are taught safety and use early in their lives. A 30 year old buying his first pistol and isn't required to get training to carry is a menace, not an asset. Those people should leave them at home, and most especially not allowed open carry, where they will just be more likely to just be mugged and have it taken from them or shoot themselves.

Sorry......I disagree.

I think anyone who buys a gun should get all the training they can afford in money and time......

But........

Owning a gun and carrying it is a Right.......any fee, tax or training requirement will be used by the anti-gun extremists to keep people from being able to exercise that Right.

In Europe, they use extreme training requirements to keep normal people from being able to qualify to own the few categories of hunting guns.......so only the rich and the politically connected have the ability to own a gun.....

We have over 18.6 million people in this country today who have legal permits to carry guns....more than that when you count the states where Constitutional Carry is the rule....

Our gun crime rate went down 75%.

Our gun murder rate went down 49%....

Our accidental gun death rate went down as well....people are not mishandling their guns even with greater numbers of people not only owning guns, but carrying them.

Your fear of people owning guns without training is unfounded......and by giving in to a mandatory training requirement, you are infringing on a Right......

 

[Mac-7]

Not saying it isn't true...but it is a little unreal to think that just being alive is enough.......we need to fight to make sure that people who use guns for self defense don't have to fear those 12 people judging them.

I wish that were possible

but the tide seems to be turning against conservatives at this time

 

[Vastator]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

We need to get the laws changed so that you can do either one, without fees, or training requirements in all 50 states.

Open carry is more of a laibility than a benefit. Training is a necessity these days; we're no longer a half rural country where people get their first firearms at 9 or 10 and are taught safety and use early in their lives. A 30 year old buying his first pistol and isn't required to get training to carry is a menace, not an asset. Those people should leave them at home, and most especially not allowed open carry, where they will just be more likely to just be mugged and have it taken from them or shoot themselves.

Sorry......I disagree.

I think anyone who buys a gun should get all the training they can afford in money and time......

But........

Owning a gun and carrying it is a Right.......any fee, tax or training requirement will be used by the anti-gun extremists to keep people from being able to exercise that Right.

In Europe, they use extreme training requirements to keep normal people from being able to qualify to own the few categories of hunting guns.......so only the rich and the politically connected have the ability to own a gun.....

We have over 18.6 million people in this country today who have legal permits to carry guns....more than that when you count the states where Constitutional Carry is the rule....

Our gun crime rate went down 75%.

Our gun murder rate went down 49%....

Our accidental gun death rate went down as well....people are not mishandling their guns even with greater numbers of people not only owning guns, but carrying them.

Your fear of people owning guns without training is unfounded......and by giving in to a mandatory training requirement, you are infringing on a Right......

Amen brother.

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

We need to get the laws changed so that you can do either one, without fees, or training requirements in all 50 states.

Open carry is more of a laibility than a benefit. Training is a necessity these days; we're no longer a half rural country where people get their first firearms at 9 or 10 and are taught safety and use early in their lives. A 30 year old buying his first pistol and isn't required to get training to carry is a menace, not an asset. Those people should leave them at home, and most especially not allowed open carry, where they will just be more likely to just be mugged and have it taken from them or shoot themselves.

will just be more likely to just be mugged and have it taken from them or shoot themselves.

Sorry....the real world doesn't match that statement.... real world situations just don't end up like that.


“A Criminal Will Just Take the Gun Away from You”

For a very long time, gun control proponents would insist that having a gun was a mistake, because many people (especially women) would not be willing to shoot a person who was attacking them—and the criminal would then take away the victim’s gun and use it on the victim.

Oddly enough, while the authors have recorded a large number of incidents where someone has their gun taken away from them, it is usually the other way around.


In 227 incidents, a criminal’s gun was taken away from him by the victim.

This does not necessarily mean that the victim shot the criminal, but it does mean that the victim successfully disarmed the criminal and then threatened the criminal with it in order to make him leave, or make him remain on the scene until the police could arrive.


Often, these were situations where the victim, at the start of the attack, did not have a gun.

On May 14, 2010, police arrested Major Lee Barnes, 19. Barnes is alleged to have first solicited an act of prostitution from a woman, and when she declined, he threatened her with a handgun, ordering her to, as the newspaper described it, “get on her knees and perform a sex act on him.” Barnes apparently put the handgun back in his pocket, “put his arms back in an apparent relaxed gesture,” at which point the victim grabbed the handgun, and shot him.55 On March 13, 2010, three men, at least one of them masked, walked into a store in Romulus, Michigan, and attempted to rob it at gunpoint. A customer walked into the store, saw what was going on, and “successfully fought the gunman for control of the weapon and fired two rounds,” killing the gunman. The other suspects left, having failed to rob the store—short at least one handgun

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf

 

[Vastator]

Not saying it isn't true...but it is a little unreal to think that just being alive is enough.......we need to fight to make sure that people who use guns for self defense don't have to fear those 12 people judging them.

I wish that were possible

but the tide seems to be turning against conservatives at this time

That happens to the weak. I hate to say it but this has been a long time coming, and it’s only gonna get worse. It’s a natural result of always rolling over, turning the other cheek, playing dead, and going along just to get along. Most of the guns on the country; but hardly a lick of will to fight...

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry makes the only tactical sense, and over time will prove to be a far better practice than open carry. We've already seen the hazards of open carry in Georgia.

We need to get the laws changed so that you can do either one, without fees, or training requirements in all 50 states.

Open carry is more of a laibility than a benefit. Training is a necessity these days; we're no longer a half rural country where people get their first firearms at 9 or 10 and are taught safety and use early in their lives. A 30 year old buying his first pistol and isn't required to get training to carry is a menace, not an asset. Those people should leave them at home, and most especially not allowed open carry, where they will just be more likely to just be mugged and have it taken from them or shoot themselves.

Sorry......I disagree.

I think anyone who buys a gun should get all the training they can afford in money and time......

But........

Owning a gun and carrying it is a Right.......any fee, tax or training requirement will be used by the anti-gun extremists to keep people from being able to exercise that Right.

In Europe, they use extreme training requirements to keep normal people from being able to qualify to own the few categories of hunting guns.......so only the rich and the politically connected have the ability to own a gun.....

We have over 18.6 million people in this country today who have legal permits to carry guns....more than that when you count the states where Constitutional Carry is the rule....

Our gun crime rate went down 75%.

Our gun murder rate went down 49%....

Our accidental gun death rate went down as well....people are not mishandling their guns even with greater numbers of people not only owning guns, but carrying them.

Your fear of people owning guns without training is unfounded......and by giving in to a mandatory training requirement, you are infringing on a Right......

Not saying it isn't true...but it is a little unreal to think that just being alive is enough.......we need to fight to make sure that people who use guns for self defense don't have to fear those 12 people judging them.

I wish that were possible

but the tide seems to be turning against conservatives at this time

That is why we keep fighting...the left didn't take over in a day......they have been slowly destroying our country for decades....we have to take it back the same way.

 

[August West]

A nut with a gun was ready to shoot up a public place and the OP tells us guns are a good thing. WTF?

 

[Mac-7]

A nut with a gun was ready to shoot up a public place and the OP tells us guns are a good thing. WTF?

Guns are a civil right for honest citizens

crazy people will find a way to hurt others

if not a gun there are others ways to kill