Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
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He's not being tried in secret. There isn't even a trial yet.LOLPretty fucking rightarded since there's no law or rule that requires the full House has to vote on an impeachment inquiry. Basing their entire obstruction on that is nothing short of foolish.White House Lawyer to Democrat Lynch Mob: Trump Wonât Cooperate
White House Lawyer to Democrat Lynch Mob: Trump Wonât Cooperate
". . . Pat Cipollone, the presidentâs chief counsel, has served legal notice on Pelosi and her lynch party of committee chairmen that the president will not cooperate with an âimpeachment inquiryâ that is illegal, unconstitutional, and seeks to overturn the results of the 2016 election.
The president, Cipollone wrote, has work to do. That work does not include involving himself in a transparent charade to destroy his presidency.
Illegal and Unconstitutional
In a letter on October 8, Cipollone harshly chastised Pelosi and her three unindicted co-conspirators â Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings, and Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel â for attempting what amounts to a bloodless coup dâetat because Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election.
The so-called impeachment inquiry, Cipollone wrote, âis constitutionally invalid and a violation of due process.â
The full House did not vote for the âinquiry,â but in any event the denial of due process is âa fatal defect. Despite Speaker Pelosiâs commitment to âtreat the President with fairnessâ the Committees have not established any procedures affording the President even the most basic protections.â
Cipollone cited leftist leftist Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadlerâs concerns about due process when the impeachment target was Democrat Bill Clinton, including âthe right to be informed of the law, of the charges against you, the right to confront the witnesses against you, to call your own witnesses, and to have the assistance of counsel,â as Nadler put it.
Yet âall of these procedures have been abandoned here,â Cipollone continued. âThese due process rights are not a matter of discretion ... to dispense with at will. To the contrary, they are constitutional requirements. The Supreme Court has recognized that due process protections apply to all congressional investigations.â
Trump, he wrote, has the right to attend hearings with counsel, see and present evidence, call and cross-examine witnesses, and object to witnesses and testimony. But âthe Committeesâ current procedures provide none of these basic constitutional rights.â
Instead, those proceedings have been secret. Like a star chamber.
Nor did the Pelosi posse give Republican committee members the right to issue subpoenas â a standard practice â thus ensuring that evidence contrary to the hate-Trump narrative is omitted or buried.
The Democrats also threatened members of the administration with obstruction of justice charges if they assert executive privilege in testimony or in withholding evidence, a longstanding practice. Even worse, the lynch mob threatened to withhold the salaries of those employees. That violates the employeesâ due-process rights.
Schiffâs Role
Yet an even more salient fact is that Trump did nothing wrong in his phone call of July 25 with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whom he asked to investigate the Biden-Burisma scandal.
âYou have resorted to such unprecedented and unconstitutional procedures because you know that a fair process would expose the lack of any basis for your inquiryâ Cipollone wrote.
Trumpâs call was âcompletely appropriate,â Cipollone wrote, as the transcript proved.
And Schiffâs public reading of a fake version of the call proves that Trump did nothing wrong, Cipollone wrote. Otherwise, the hate-Trump congressman wouldnât have had to fake it.
As well, Schiff has a conflict of interest because he played a role in the now-famous whistleblowerâs hearsay complaint of August 12 that set off the latest impeachment hysteria. Schiff claimed that neither he nor his staff had contact with the whistleblower before the complaint was made. That was false; Schiffâs staff members advised the individual.
Thus, Cipollone wrote, âanyone who was involved in the preparation or submission of the whistleblower's complaint cannot possibly act as a fair and impartial judge in the same matter â particularly after misleading the American people about his involvement.â
Reverse 2016
Cipollone rightly concluded that Democrats are trying to reverse Clintonâs loss in 2016 and stop a repeat Trump win in 2020. . . . "
I'm so glad that AG Holder set the precedent of telling Congress to fuck off.
Now we can all just ignore this politically motivated circus.![]()
You can ignore it, but Trump can't. These are legally issued subpoenas and there was no binding precedent set by the Holder case.
Yeah, fuck due process, that is only for DNC, liberal and progressive politicians. Everyone else gets a Star Chamber.
We'll try the fucker in secret so the people and their elected reps. don't see what is going on. The rabble don't have a right to see the evidence or question witnesses.
Fuck them, stoopid rubes.