Conservatives understand left wingers, left wingers don't understand conservatives...

Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion/gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.

GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion/gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.

GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.


Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.
Then never complain about special interest groups’ influence on Washington ever again.
 
GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.
GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.


Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.
Then never complain about special interest groups’ influence on Washington ever again.



I don't consider defending and supporting the Constitution a special interest.
 
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.


Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.
Then never complain about special interest groups’ influence on Washington ever again.



I don't consider defending and supporting the Constitution a special interest.
That’s not why the special interests chose them. At least you didn’t complain.
 
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion/gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.

GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion/gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.

GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.


Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.

Nobody helped him. The Heritage Foundation gave him that complete list with instructions that the only way he would receive their support was to nominate from that list. He didn't even try to pick anyone.
 
GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.
GOP are also the Party of TODAY!! Why do you think that is?

Greg
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.


Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.

Nobody helped him. The Heritage Foundation gave him that complete list with instructions that the only way he would receive their support was to nominate from that list. He didn't even try to pick anyone.


Wow, you must have inside information.
Is it an anonymous source?
 
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.
They’re certainly not the party of tomorrow. “Today” is even a stretch, as what they work towards are policies and norms that became obsolete decades ago.


Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.

Nobody helped him. The Heritage Foundation gave him that complete list with instructions that the only way he would receive their support was to nominate from that list. He didn't even try to pick anyone.


Wow, you must have inside information.
Is it an anonymous source?

Nope. I did fail to mention the Federalist Society, but here is Trump's confirmation.

According to a statement attributed to Trump and released via his campaign website,[3]

“ We have a very clear choice in this election. The freedoms we cherish and the constitutional values and principles our country was founded on are in jeopardy. The responsibility is greater than ever to protect and uphold these freedoms and I will appoint justices, who like Justice Scalia, will protect our liberty with the highest regard for the Constitution. This list is definitive and I will choose only from it in picking future Justices of the United States Supreme Court. I would like to thank the Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation and the many other individuals who helped in composing this list of twenty-one highly respected people who are the kind of scholars that we need to preserve the very core of our country, and make it greater than ever before.[2]
 
Wanting to live free and peacefully without interference from government and special interest groups is obsolete?
Choosing who you like, don't like, want to associate with, conduct business with is obsolete?
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.

Nobody helped him. The Heritage Foundation gave him that complete list with instructions that the only way he would receive their support was to nominate from that list. He didn't even try to pick anyone.


Wow, you must have inside information.
Is it an anonymous source?

Nope. I did fail to mention the Federalist Society, but here is Trump's confirmation.

According to a statement attributed to Trump and released via his campaign website,[3]

“ We have a very clear choice in this election. The freedoms we cherish and the constitutional values and principles our country was founded on are in jeopardy. The responsibility is greater than ever to protect and uphold these freedoms and I will appoint justices, who like Justice Scalia, will protect our liberty with the highest regard for the Constitution. This list is definitive and I will choose only from it in picking future Justices of the United States Supreme Court. I would like to thank the Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation and the many other individuals who helped in composing this list of twenty-one highly respected people who are the kind of scholars that we need to preserve the very core of our country, and make it greater than ever before.[2]


"Helped" "and many other individuals"

What's wrong with the Federalist Society and The Heritage Foundation?
Don't you want to preserve our Constitution?
 
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion, no/little gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.


And, you are showing Haidt research was accurate.

Not one conservative said the NFL morons couldn't protest...they pointed out that the NFL was a private company and could set their own rules....and that the millionaire players were morons for kneeling.....since fans have free speech rights too....no one called for the government to step in and stop them.

The police actually support people owning and carrying guns...as to background checks...could you please explain how background checks work to stop criminals from getting guns...since criminals use straw buyers to buy their guns or they steal the guns? What is the magic in background checks that you guys cling to?

The border thing? Really? Considering the law was the law all through obama's term, and that the law states that the kids can only be held 20 days while asylum seekers are held for months...they weren't ripped from their parents, they were placed in protective custody.....while the adult who claimed to be their parent went through a process......

You have no idea what you are talking about, showing how you would do on that test...
Sorry OP you are mistaken or at the very least poorly spinning your rebutal of Rockets points.

The president himself called the NFL players unpatriotic, son of bitches, and said they should be fired, all while distorting the main message of their protest. That’s not promoting free speech. It’s political gamesmanship

Rocket’s point was “more guns and less background checks” which cops he knows don’t support. You tried to twist that one into a different direction by bringing up the black market.

As for the border we all know the effect Trumps zero tolerance directive had on the separation issue. Nothing even close to this happened under Obama so don’t even try to point the finger the other way. That talking point is old and stale.


Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
I know many police officers and I can’t think of any that don’t want to see a proper background check and gun safety training performed on people who want to carry weapons.

You can’t possobly think they enjoy the thought of walking into an altercation with irresponsible armed individuals, can you?


I know cops too....and they know that background checks don't stop criminals since they keep catching criminals with illegal guns....and they also know that mandatory safety training is just a way to keep people from owning and carrying guns...just like they do in Europe.
 
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion, no/little gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.


And, you are showing Haidt research was accurate.

Not one conservative said the NFL morons couldn't protest...they pointed out that the NFL was a private company and could set their own rules....and that the millionaire players were morons for kneeling.....since fans have free speech rights too....no one called for the government to step in and stop them.

The police actually support people owning and carrying guns...as to background checks...could you please explain how background checks work to stop criminals from getting guns...since criminals use straw buyers to buy their guns or they steal the guns? What is the magic in background checks that you guys cling to?

The border thing? Really? Considering the law was the law all through obama's term, and that the law states that the kids can only be held 20 days while asylum seekers are held for months...they weren't ripped from their parents, they were placed in protective custody.....while the adult who claimed to be their parent went through a process......

You have no idea what you are talking about, showing how you would do on that test...
Sorry OP you are mistaken or at the very least poorly spinning your rebutal of Rockets points.

The president himself called the NFL players unpatriotic, son of bitches, and said they should be fired, all while distorting the main message of their protest. That’s not promoting free speech. It’s political gamesmanship

Rocket’s point was “more guns and less background checks” which cops he knows don’t support. You tried to twist that one into a different direction by bringing up the black market.

As for the border we all know the effect Trumps zero tolerance directive had on the separation issue. Nothing even close to this happened under Obama so don’t even try to point the finger the other way. That talking point is old and stale.


Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
Zero tolerance was not Obamas law, at least not in the way Trump had it enforced. Border enforcement is the responsibility of the executive and HS, so the directives come from the top. That’s how the system works. Trump ramped up zero tolerance and the separation shitshow happened.


Yes...it was....he just didn't enforce the law because he didn't care if the illegal alien criminals ever showed up for court dates....he just wanted them to vote.
 
Your new Supreme Court justices were selected from a list created by special interest groups. Your part of the country is supported by massive farming subsidies. You support an ongoing trade war wherein the big fed gubmint is executing massive tariffs and subsides on us. Trump’s cabinet is made up of special interest peddlers. The first budget Trump passed was larger than 7 of Obama’s 8 budgets. Republican voting states have the highest participation rates for food stamps and welfare. Should I go on?


Trump's list of potential SC justices is fantastic list. I don't care who helped him with it.
As long as he keeps selecting from that list, he could shoot my mother in the middle of 5th ave.

Nobody helped him. The Heritage Foundation gave him that complete list with instructions that the only way he would receive their support was to nominate from that list. He didn't even try to pick anyone.


Wow, you must have inside information.
Is it an anonymous source?

Nope. I did fail to mention the Federalist Society, but here is Trump's confirmation.

According to a statement attributed to Trump and released via his campaign website,[3]

“ We have a very clear choice in this election. The freedoms we cherish and the constitutional values and principles our country was founded on are in jeopardy. The responsibility is greater than ever to protect and uphold these freedoms and I will appoint justices, who like Justice Scalia, will protect our liberty with the highest regard for the Constitution. This list is definitive and I will choose only from it in picking future Justices of the United States Supreme Court. I would like to thank the Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation and the many other individuals who helped in composing this list of twenty-one highly respected people who are the kind of scholars that we need to preserve the very core of our country, and make it greater than ever before.[2]


"Helped" "and many other individuals"

What's wrong with the Federalist Society and The Heritage Foundation?
Don't you want to preserve our Constitution?


The problem with the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation is that they pick judges based on their ability to read the Constitution as written and not as members of a special, unelected micro legislature that will pass Social policy that the left can't pass through congress...
 
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion, no/little gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.


And, you are showing Haidt research was accurate.

Not one conservative said the NFL morons couldn't protest...they pointed out that the NFL was a private company and could set their own rules....and that the millionaire players were morons for kneeling.....since fans have free speech rights too....no one called for the government to step in and stop them.

The police actually support people owning and carrying guns...as to background checks...could you please explain how background checks work to stop criminals from getting guns...since criminals use straw buyers to buy their guns or they steal the guns? What is the magic in background checks that you guys cling to?

The border thing? Really? Considering the law was the law all through obama's term, and that the law states that the kids can only be held 20 days while asylum seekers are held for months...they weren't ripped from their parents, they were placed in protective custody.....while the adult who claimed to be their parent went through a process......

You have no idea what you are talking about, showing how you would do on that test...
Sorry OP you are mistaken or at the very least poorly spinning your rebutal of Rockets points.

The president himself called the NFL players unpatriotic, son of bitches, and said they should be fired, all while distorting the main message of their protest. That’s not promoting free speech. It’s political gamesmanship

Rocket’s point was “more guns and less background checks” which cops he knows don’t support. You tried to twist that one into a different direction by bringing up the black market.

As for the border we all know the effect Trumps zero tolerance directive had on the separation issue. Nothing even close to this happened under Obama so don’t even try to point the finger the other way. That talking point is old and stale.


Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
I know many police officers and I can’t think of any that don’t want to see a proper background check and gun safety training performed on people who want to carry weapons.

You can’t possobly think they enjoy the thought of walking into an altercation with irresponsible armed individuals, can you?


I know cops too....and they know that background checks don't stop criminals since they keep catching criminals with illegal guns....and they also know that mandatory safety training is just a way to keep people from owning and carrying guns...just like they do in Europe.
Those are your talking points not cops. I’m not buying that for a second.
 
Well duh.

I am an independent...but it's obvious what libs are for...bigger government, free healthcare for all, higher MW, free college, more green, more freedom of choice (drugs/abortion/etc). Almost everyone knows this.

But Reps? Other then a bigger military, no abortion, no/little gay marriage/LGBT rights, more guns and they are nuts about God...what else (basically, they are the party of the 1950's)?
They claim they want small government - yet they have never run a balanced budget in my lifetime (federally).
They claim they are for free speech - but the whole NFL kneeling nonsense shows that they are not.
They claim to be big on law enforcement - yet they want more and more guns with less and less background checks (something most cops I know are not ga ga about).
They claim they are big on family - yet they are the ones cheering like mad when children are ripped from their parents at the border.
Other than a few basics - reps are all over the map.


And, you are showing Haidt research was accurate.

Not one conservative said the NFL morons couldn't protest...they pointed out that the NFL was a private company and could set their own rules....and that the millionaire players were morons for kneeling.....since fans have free speech rights too....no one called for the government to step in and stop them.

The police actually support people owning and carrying guns...as to background checks...could you please explain how background checks work to stop criminals from getting guns...since criminals use straw buyers to buy their guns or they steal the guns? What is the magic in background checks that you guys cling to?

The border thing? Really? Considering the law was the law all through obama's term, and that the law states that the kids can only be held 20 days while asylum seekers are held for months...they weren't ripped from their parents, they were placed in protective custody.....while the adult who claimed to be their parent went through a process......

You have no idea what you are talking about, showing how you would do on that test...
Sorry OP you are mistaken or at the very least poorly spinning your rebutal of Rockets points.

The president himself called the NFL players unpatriotic, son of bitches, and said they should be fired, all while distorting the main message of their protest. That’s not promoting free speech. It’s political gamesmanship

Rocket’s point was “more guns and less background checks” which cops he knows don’t support. You tried to twist that one into a different direction by bringing up the black market.

As for the border we all know the effect Trumps zero tolerance directive had on the separation issue. Nothing even close to this happened under Obama so don’t even try to point the finger the other way. That talking point is old and stale.


Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
Zero tolerance was not Obamas law, at least not in the way Trump had it enforced. Border enforcement is the responsibility of the executive and HS, so the directives come from the top. That’s how the system works. Trump ramped up zero tolerance and the separation shitshow happened.


Yes...it was....he just didn't enforce the law because he didn't care if the illegal alien criminals ever showed up for court dates....he just wanted them to vote.
Another BS talking point as illegal aliens can’t vote and you can’t read Obama’s mind. Keep trying though
 
And, you are showing Haidt research was accurate.

Not one conservative said the NFL morons couldn't protest...they pointed out that the NFL was a private company and could set their own rules....and that the millionaire players were morons for kneeling.....since fans have free speech rights too....no one called for the government to step in and stop them.

The police actually support people owning and carrying guns...as to background checks...could you please explain how background checks work to stop criminals from getting guns...since criminals use straw buyers to buy their guns or they steal the guns? What is the magic in background checks that you guys cling to?

The border thing? Really? Considering the law was the law all through obama's term, and that the law states that the kids can only be held 20 days while asylum seekers are held for months...they weren't ripped from their parents, they were placed in protective custody.....while the adult who claimed to be their parent went through a process......

You have no idea what you are talking about, showing how you would do on that test...
Sorry OP you are mistaken or at the very least poorly spinning your rebutal of Rockets points.

The president himself called the NFL players unpatriotic, son of bitches, and said they should be fired, all while distorting the main message of their protest. That’s not promoting free speech. It’s political gamesmanship

Rocket’s point was “more guns and less background checks” which cops he knows don’t support. You tried to twist that one into a different direction by bringing up the black market.

As for the border we all know the effect Trumps zero tolerance directive had on the separation issue. Nothing even close to this happened under Obama so don’t even try to point the finger the other way. That talking point is old and stale.


Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
Zero tolerance was not Obamas law, at least not in the way Trump had it enforced. Border enforcement is the responsibility of the executive and HS, so the directives come from the top. That’s how the system works. Trump ramped up zero tolerance and the separation shitshow happened.


Yes...it was....he just didn't enforce the law because he didn't care if the illegal alien criminals ever showed up for court dates....he just wanted them to vote.
Another BS talking point as illegal aliens can’t vote and you can’t read Obama’s mind. Keep trying though


Why does the left continue to post the nonsense that illegals can't vote when it has been in the news some of them legally can??????


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Sorry OP you are mistaken or at the very least poorly spinning your rebutal of Rockets points.

The president himself called the NFL players unpatriotic, son of bitches, and said they should be fired, all while distorting the main message of their protest. That’s not promoting free speech. It’s political gamesmanship

Rocket’s point was “more guns and less background checks” which cops he knows don’t support. You tried to twist that one into a different direction by bringing up the black market.

As for the border we all know the effect Trumps zero tolerance directive had on the separation issue. Nothing even close to this happened under Obama so don’t even try to point the finger the other way. That talking point is old and stale.


Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
Zero tolerance was not Obamas law, at least not in the way Trump had it enforced. Border enforcement is the responsibility of the executive and HS, so the directives come from the top. That’s how the system works. Trump ramped up zero tolerance and the separation shitshow happened.


Yes...it was....he just didn't enforce the law because he didn't care if the illegal alien criminals ever showed up for court dates....he just wanted them to vote.
Another BS talking point as illegal aliens can’t vote and you can’t read Obama’s mind. Keep trying though


Why does the left continue to post the nonsense that illegals can't vote when it has been in the news some of them legally can??????


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Are you talking about county elections?

I was talking federal
 
Yes.....he had his opinion, as any American does.......... but no government action was taken.....so you are wrong. He was exercising his free speech as they were, only you asshats didn't want him or their other critics to speak.

No..... he pulled that out of his ass, as the majority of police don't support what he thinks they do.... I also asked a side question as to why he clings to "background" checks as if they are magic pixie dust....

The "zero" tolerance was the law....obama ignored the law simply to allow more illegal aliens into the country so they could vote for democrats... obama broke the law, Trump didn't. And it was the left wing, 9th circuit that created the problem, stating that these children could not be held in protective custody longer than 20 days, even while knowing the parents and fake parents would be held much longer...... creating the problem
Zero tolerance was not Obamas law, at least not in the way Trump had it enforced. Border enforcement is the responsibility of the executive and HS, so the directives come from the top. That’s how the system works. Trump ramped up zero tolerance and the separation shitshow happened.


Yes...it was....he just didn't enforce the law because he didn't care if the illegal alien criminals ever showed up for court dates....he just wanted them to vote.
Another BS talking point as illegal aliens can’t vote and you can’t read Obama’s mind. Keep trying though


Why does the left continue to post the nonsense that illegals can't vote when it has been in the news some of them legally can??????


.
Are you talking about county elections?

I was talking federal


It's the end game and we all know it, just like with gay marriage or cops not pulling people over with just no seat belt on . Start small and make it a social norm.
 

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