Constitutional Rights Have Limits

[Vegasgiants]

At conception a genetically distinct new person has come into existence.

That's nice

 

[westwall]

If people could get the word "Rights" out of their heads and concentrate on "Responsibilities", the world would be a much better place.

Nah, that leads to governments killing mass quantities of people for the "good of the few"

 

[ding]

That's nice

A genetically distinct new person that has never existed before and will never exist again.

 

[Vegasgiants]

A genetically distinct new person that has never existed before and will never exist again.

Okay dokey pokey

 

[Vegasgiants]

I think a abortion kills a human....but I prefer to call it killing gods little miracle

 

[BackAgain]

Not in the US. You are factually lying.


Personhood is a legal concept

Nope. Personhood means what it means. You are lying. And I’ve been through this entire debate recently so I can tell you for sure that you are absolutely wrong. Not just wrong, but dishonest. Willfully dishonest.

I understand why you so urgently wish to deny the status of “person” to a zygote or a fetus at any stage of life prior to birth. But you wishing won’t make it so.

As I noted very recently, you can look to Idaho. if Idaho defines “murder” as the taking of the life of a human being and specifically include a fetus, then by the simplest of definitions, a person includes a fetus. Nothing more need be said to establish that you are wrong.

Section 18-4001 – Idaho State Legislature

legislature.idaho.gov

Helpful hint, vegomatic: When you are doing the lying, it is stupid of you to try to call someone else a liar.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Nope. Personhood means what it means. You are lying. And I’ve been through this entire debate recently so I can tell you for sure that you are absolutely wrong. Not just wrong, but dishonest. Willfully dishonest.

I understand why you so urgently wish to deny the status of “person” to a zygote or a fetus at any stage of life prior to birth. But you wishing won’t make it so.

As I noted very recently, you can look to Idaho. if Idaho defines “murder” as the taking of the life of a human being and specifically include a fetus, then by the simplest of definitions, a person includes a fetus. Nothing more need be said to establish that you are wrong.

Section 18-4001 – Idaho State Legislature

legislature.idaho.gov

Helpful hint, vegomatic: When you are doing the lying, it is stupid of you to try to call someone else a liar.

It has a federal definition


Idaho can do whatever it likes.....but notice they never arrest anyone getting an abortion for murder


Why? Lol

 

[BackAgain]

I think a abortion kills a human....but I prefer to call it killing gods little miracle

Look at the vegetable ^ bragging about being an abhorrent scumbag cockbite.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Look at the vegetable ^ bragging about being an abhorrent scumbag cockbite.

Get em ranger

 

[BackAgain]

It has a federal definition


Idaho can do whatever it likes.....but notice they never arrest anyone getting an abortion for murder


Why? Lol

The US definition doesn’t bing the States, you asshole. If Idaho says it’s a murder, it’s a murder in Idaho. And one can only commit murder against a person. Not a dog. Not a wolf. Not a whale. Those you can kill. But murder can only be committed against a human being.

 

[ding]

I think a abortion kills a human....but I prefer to call it killing gods little miracle

That's nice that you can be so nonchalant about it.

 

[Vegasgiants]

That's nice that you can be so nonchalant about it.

Its freaking great

 

[Vegasgiants]

The US definition doesn’t bing the States, you asshole. If Idaho says it’s a murder, it’s a murder in Idaho. And one can only commit murder against a person. Not a dog. Not a wolf. Not a whale. Those you can kill. But murder can only be committed against a human being.

And yet idaho does not arrest people getting an abortion for murder


Why?



HAHAHAHAHA

 

[ding]

Its freaking great

That's a hard heart you got there.

 

[Vegasgiants]

That's a hard heart you got there.

The best kind. Lol

 

[BackAgain]

Get em ranger

You’re worthless. You can’t debate worth shit. And you suck ar banter too. Meanwhile, a person is a person.

 

[Vegasgiants]

You’re worthless. You can’t debate worth shit. And you suck ar banter too. Meanwhile, a person is a person.

Why does my question scare you so much? Lol

 

[ding]

The best kind. Lol

Time will tell.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Time will tell.

It has for 50 years. Lol

 

[Batcat]

If the constitution was a recipe it would be a food you'll never get to eat. You might be able to make variations and similar tasting dishes or meals but you'll never get to have the real thing.

Thats what being American is like. You got this shit scrap of paper with a bunch of words on it but it doesn't really mean shit and doesn't really do anything for you. Thats the dream part of being American. That's why they call it the American dream. It's a fairy tale and it can't come true.

You fairies can keep on believin, but I'm gonna move on.

Many consider what you refer to as a “shit” document as the longest lasting constitution in the world. You probably thought the USSR had the better constitution but that socialist workers paradise is long gone today.

In my opinion the pepole who wrote the Constitution were a hell of a lot more intelligent than the people we have elected to represent us today in Washington D.C.

10 Oldest Constitutions In The World (Updated 2023) - Oldest.org

Discover the 10 Oldest Constitutions In The World (Updated 2023) here. Prepare to be transported into a rich & fascinating history on the oldest constitutions that exist.

www.oldest.org

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While the Constitution of San Marino is nearly 200 years older, the United States Constitution is often considered the oldest constitution in the world because not all of San Marino’s Constitution is codified.

Additionally, the United States Constitution was the first permanent constitution of its kind and influenced the constitutions of several other countries.

The United States Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788 after nine of the 13 original states signed.

The Constitution went into effect the following March and a new government was established. Since then, the United States Constitution has been amended 27 times, with the first ten amendments collectively known as the Bill of Rights