Could America Become the Next Greece?

[pwjohn]

You know what, buddy. We have airline pilots who are selling their blood plasma to make ends meet.

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We have adjunct professors on Food Stamps.

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So the "Why don't you go out and get some skills" argument doesn't fly. A lot of people did go out and get skills, and the Rich are cheating them anyway.

But much of that is due to people living above their means.

If you have a job making 60k a year, and they are living in a house worth half a million with a payment of 3000 a month, perhaps they should sell that house and get a smaller one. If you can't afford a new BMW, then buy a used Ford.

People should also learn to pay their bills in the correct order. The cell phone payment is NOT the most important bill of the month, neither is the internet bill, unless you work through one of those two ways. For most people, the rent/house payment should be first, and then the utilities and food. Cut up the credit cards and just spend money with what you have in hand.

I've never had a credit card, and I save my money to buy a vehicle, my bills only come to half of what I make a month, and I think I live extravagantly, due to the fact, I can go anywhere to eat, anytime I want, or take a vacation anytime I want, it's called common sense spending.

How can a kid with no job skills of any kind ever hope to make 60k a year?

Never gonna happen.

And besides, living beyond your means is an entirely different matter,

you are full of shut, it happened to my dad, it happened to me and just a week ago a 28 year old guy who started as an operator@18 got promoted to a mold processor, he will make 50 grand a year.

I have no idea if your reply was meant for me, but if so. Fuck you and your potty mouth.

you are the one who insists no one with no skills could end up today with no college education, not work their ass off and acquire skills and make way over 60 k ass hole.

Its still there.... Never left

No I did not say that..

I said, people without job skills, where as you aquired your job skills through on the job training. For most of us, that's not an option, so we need to aquire those skills by some other means..

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

I suppose for those people who never had a good paying job to begin with, or managed to work their way up to one, sitting at home on welfare just might pay as much for them as working,
To them I would say, learn a trade, or get an education. Either way you'll live a more productive life and for those who depend on you, they too will be much better off in the end, so the incentive is there for you to better yourself.

You know what, buddy. We have airline pilots who are selling their blood plasma to make ends meet.

CNS Movie Review Capitalism A Love Story

We have adjunct professors on Food Stamps.

Your College Professor Could Be On Public Assistance - NBC News

So the "Why don't you go out and get some skills" argument doesn't fly. A lot of people did go out and get skills, and the Rich are cheating them anyway.

But much of that is due to people living above their means.

If you have a job making 60k a year, and they are living in a house worth half a million with a payment of 3000 a month, perhaps they should sell that house and get a smaller one. If you can't afford a new BMW, then buy a used Ford.

People should also learn to pay their bills in the correct order. The cell phone payment is NOT the most important bill of the month, neither is the internet bill, unless you work through one of those two ways. For most people, the rent/house payment should be first, and then the utilities and food. Cut up the credit cards and just spend money with what you have in hand.

I've never had a credit card, and I save my money to buy a vehicle, my bills only come to half of what I make a month, and I think I live extravagantly, due to the fact, I can go anywhere to eat, anytime I want, or take a vacation anytime I want, it's called common sense spending.

How can a kid with no job skills of any kind ever hope to make 60k a year?

Never gonna happen.

And besides, living beyond your means is an entirely different matter,

Joe was talking about pilots and college professors, not kids with no skills.

In the trucking industry, of which I am an expert, there are drivers who just break into the field who only make 22 cents per mile, that's no money at all, yet, they have to take those jobs, to get the training to drive a truck, and work at that job for at least 6 months before any decent company will consider hiring them, and the good companies require 1 year or more over the road experience, most of that due to insurance company regulations.

There is a driver shortage of over 30k drivers and predicted to be over 100k drivers by the year 2020, so it's a prime time to get a job as a driver, because wages keep going up, as do the miles that are available. And anyone can make a phone call or 2 and get into a driving school and have a guaranteed job, that sucks for the first 6 months, but then the sky is the limit.

I only work 5 days a week, and bring home a very nice paycheck every week, due to the fact that I have tons of experience and a very good driving record, with no accidents and no tickets, that allowed me to drive for one of the top companies in the industry, and they as well have a huge driver shortage, because they only hire the best.

I have a GED, and no other marketable skills, yet I don't mind hard work, and believe me, driving a truck on I-95 for 11 hours a day, is hard work. So your argument doesn't hold water, because anyone without a criminal record, and some with a criminal record for minor offences, can get a job driving a truck, if they cant do that, then do they really deserve to make more than minimum wage?

My argument to Joe holds plenty of water and I did say that what he said was true, just not in every case. And maybe not to the extent he might have been implying..That's all.

As for your expertise in the trucking business that can lead to helping those without the skill sets necessary to wheel a big rig around the country in a safe, yet productive manner, I hope you'll offer up some worthy advise to those looking for a way to make a living in the business..Good luck with that..

I would be more than willing to help someone get into the trucking industry. All someone needs to do is ask, and I can point them in the right direction to get their foot in the door.

Western Express out of Nashville, will train drivers, and pay them while being trained, but require a commitment from them to work for their company for a minimum of 2 years, and the pay is not great, but the experience gained is huge, and can lead to good jobs in the industry.

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

But much of that is due to people living above their means.

If you have a job making 60k a year, and they are living in a house worth half a million with a payment of 3000 a month, perhaps they should sell that house and get a smaller one. If you can't afford a new BMW, then buy a used Ford.

People should also learn to pay their bills in the correct order. The cell phone payment is NOT the most important bill of the month, neither is the internet bill, unless you work through one of those two ways. For most people, the rent/house payment should be first, and then the utilities and food. Cut up the credit cards and just spend money with what you have in hand.

I've never had a credit card, and I save my money to buy a vehicle, my bills only come to half of what I make a month, and I think I live extravagantly, due to the fact, I can go anywhere to eat, anytime I want, or take a vacation anytime I want, it's called common sense spending.

How can a kid with no job skills of any kind ever hope to make 60k a year?

Never gonna happen.

And besides, living beyond your means is an entirely different matter,

you are full of shut, it happened to my dad, it happened to me and just a week ago a 28 year old guy who started as an operator@18 got promoted to a mold processor, he will make 50 grand a year.

I have no idea if your reply was meant for me, but if so. Fuck you and your potty mouth.

you are the one who insists no one with no skills could end up today with no college education, not work their ass off and acquire skills and make way over 60 k ass hole.

Its still there.... Never left

No I did not say that..

I said, people without job skills, where as you aquired job skills through on the job training..For most of us,, that's not an option, so we need to aquire those skills by other means..

If you are at least 21 and want to drive a truck, google Western Express and call them, they pay for everything, from your food to your travel, while in training.

Other routes are available, just google truck driving schools and talk to them, some will even hire your in a company, that pays your entire school costs and puts you to work, as soon as you get your CDL.

 

[Wyatt earp]

But much of that is due to people living above their means.

If you have a job making 60k a year, and they are living in a house worth half a million with a payment of 3000 a month, perhaps they should sell that house and get a smaller one. If you can't afford a new BMW, then buy a used Ford.

People should also learn to pay their bills in the correct order. The cell phone payment is NOT the most important bill of the month, neither is the internet bill, unless you work through one of those two ways. For most people, the rent/house payment should be first, and then the utilities and food. Cut up the credit cards and just spend money with what you have in hand.

I've never had a credit card, and I save my money to buy a vehicle, my bills only come to half of what I make a month, and I think I live extravagantly, due to the fact, I can go anywhere to eat, anytime I want, or take a vacation anytime I want, it's called common sense spending.

How can a kid with no job skills of any kind ever hope to make 60k a year?

Never gonna happen.

And besides, living beyond your means is an entirely different matter,

you are full of shut, it happened to my dad, it happened to me and just a week ago a 28 year old guy who started as an operator@18 got promoted to a mold processor, he will make 50 grand a year.

I have no idea if your reply was meant for me, but if so. Fuck you and your potty mouth.

you are the one who insists no one with no skills could end up today with no college education, not work their ass off and acquire skills and make way over 60 k ass hole.

Its still there.... Never left

No I did not say that..

I said, people without job skills, where as you aquired your job skills through on the job training. For most of us, that's not an option, so we need to aquire those skills by some other means..

pal, I started off as an operator making $3.35 an hour, now I make 75k..... I just took shit and rose through the ranks. Never wanted to be a millionare..

Freedom to do what ever I wanted was more important to me and you still can do it today, if you stay out of democrat controlled blue states.

 

[Silhouette]

Could America Become the Next Greece?

Sure. It just depends on how long we're willing to be enslaved to dependence on foreign and expensive-extracted domestic oil and carbon energy: Greece Europe Energy Russia Problem s Solved. You re Welcome. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates in its alternative fiscal scenario that U.S. publicly held debt will grow to 180 percent (exceeding the current Greek-level) by 2039. Yet U.S. debt is already in the danger zone, dragging down present-day growth prospects.

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We actually had less poverty in 1965, then our political leadership decided we needed a "War on Poverty." Well,fifty years later and about $20 Trillion in "income redistribution," we have more poverty today than in 1965. Why is that? Our federal government has 125 Federal Anti-poverty programs which distribute money,food, tax credits, housing allowances, child care, health care, and telephones. Nothing like this EVER existed in our country until the New Deal;but even then, President Roosevelt wanted people to provide labor for government assistance. He did not want a nation on the dole.

America is a concept, not a place.

America is defined by natural principles that are wholly antithetical to socialism, and other rationalizations common to the Ideological Left.

The United States has largely turned from those principles, thus is presently in an inalterable decline, spiraling toward it's doom.

Hopefully, whatever rises from its ashes will pick up the American standard, reject Left-think in its entirely and go forward as a viable, sustainable culture.

All we know for sure at this point is that the Ideological Left; in the midst of a catastrophic failure of socialist policy and in the midst of a world war with Islam, elected a Marxist Muslim who has now licensed and Funded Iran with Nuclear weapons, Armed, Funded and Trained ISIS who is murdering Christians across the Middle East and has spent the US into irretrievable bankruptcy.

By comparison, Greece is a cornucopia of full-on, out of control prosperity, with no potential means to stop the flow of cash its national production is generating.