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They can demand all they want, but they aren't "free" to endanger me and my family.
Of course they are. They can drive and endanger your family, they can do loads of stuff that endanger you and your family.
They can't do it legally. They can also drink and drive and endanger your family.
This fails as a false comparison fallacy.I guess that's why legal lotteries obliterated numbers games.You are on very shaky ground here. There are still other drugs. Drugs like crack, meth, heroin, etc. there is no logical reason to expect gang related crime to decrease, and you cannot show a correlation. Violent crime is down all over the country.
Marijuana is easily the most commonly used drug in the US, and making it legal would most definitely decrease gang related crime. If the avenue to profit is no longer there for them they simply no longer have that means of acquiring profit, and their influence shrinks. It's not a hard concept.
That is fine in concept, but it is not supported by evidence in reality. I wish it were true but it isn't.
Is that why we still have so many moonshiners and Mafia gangs selling alcohol in today's day and age?
Oh,w ait.
No one is advocating that government start selling marijuana, only acknowledge that where marijuana is concerned, the 'war on drugs' is a complete failure.
Because there's no such thing as "the confines of your own home." That's the delusion of the Pothead Left, that drugs are used in a bubble and only the user suffers the consequences. More often, friends, family, co workers, and complete strangers are affected by drug use. Do you want your brain surgeon half baked? How about a crane operator or a truck driver? How about your kids' teacher or a police officer or fireman? Many of these "private drug users" are actually parents or other relatives exposing children to their lifestyle. Only people living on an island can say they aren't hurting anyone but themselves.They can demand all they want, but they aren't "free" to endanger me and my family.People would be demanding morphine more if they thought they could get it.We could have no crime if everyone was put on a morphine drip.
No one has been placed on Marihuana. Individuals are demanding it on their own.
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Why can't Americans , free people they are, demand morphine?
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How does using morphine in the confines of your home endanger anyone?
Because there's no such thing as "the confines of your own home." That's the delusion of the Pothead Left, that drugs are used in a bubble and only the user suffers the consequences. More often, friends, family, co workers, and complete strangers are affected by drug use. Do you want your brain surgeon half baked? How about a crane operator or a truck driver? How about your kids' teacher or a police officer or fireman? Many of these "private drug users" are actually parents or other relatives exposing children to their lifestyle. Only people living on an island can say they aren't hurting anyone but themselves.They can demand all they want, but they aren't "free" to endanger me and my family.People would be demanding morphine more if they thought they could get it.No one has been placed on Marihuana. Individuals are demanding it on their own.
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Why can't Americans , free people they are, demand morphine?
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How does using morphine in the confines of your home endanger anyone?
lol, you believe that I've got some swamp land to sell
Probably the fact it's WINTER might have something to do with it.
Nobody goes to jail for possession of under an oz of weed. That's what has been legalized.
Everything else is the same. It's still illegal to grow with intent to sell. It's still a felony to possess more than 40 oz. It's still illegal to possess any amount for minors. And they've added a Draconian new DUI rule of 5 nanograms per liter of blood, so now you can get a DUI for having smoked weed yesterday.
So, there may be valid reasons why crime is going down in CO. Ganja legalization ain't it.
Furthermore, the taxes aren't what people expected. The revenues are coming up way short, and the taxes are keeping the black market afloat.
And really, why would you buy a taxed product when you can just get your medical card for whatever ( headaches, depression, PMS ) and grow a few plants in your back yard?
You actually think the Pothead Left won't treat this as a "right" that employers and landlords can't violate. You don't know the left very well.Because there's no such thing as "the confines of your own home." That's the delusion of the Pothead Left, that drugs are used in a bubble and only the user suffers the consequences. More often, friends, family, co workers, and complete strangers are affected by drug use. Do you want your brain surgeon half baked? How about a crane operator or a truck driver? How about your kids' teacher or a police officer or fireman? Many of these "private drug users" are actually parents or other relatives exposing children to their lifestyle. Only people living on an island can say they aren't hurting anyone but themselves.They can demand all they want, but they aren't "free" to endanger me and my family.People would be demanding morphine more if they thought they could get it.
Why can't Americans , free people they are, demand morphine?
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How does using morphine in the confines of your home endanger anyone?
Brain Surgeons and Crane operators have contractual obligations not to use Marijuana. They often have to take random drug tests to demonstrate the fact. However, no one smoking large doses of marijuana has what it takes to become a brain surgeon. As long as they don't use it around my kids, I couldn't care less if teachers smoke marijuana. The same goes for police and firemen. However, these people still have to take random drug tests, so your question is moot.
Explain why a software developer shouldn't be allowed to smoke marijuana in his own home.
American state legalises marijuana 8211 and crime drops 15 Metro News
"Anti-marijuana activists have warned that legalising weed would lead to increased drug addiction, mental problems and crime – but in Colorado, which legalised recreational use of marijuana, the opposite has happened."
"Overall, crime has fallen by 15% and murder has dropped by 50%."
"Sexual assaults and car crime have fallen, and violent crime is down 10% overall."
Two different issues. "Over all crime" and "marijuana use" not the same thing. Very misleading. Why is that?
"Overall, crime has fallen by 15% and murder has dropped by 50%."
"Sexual assaults and car crime have fallen, and violent crime is down 10% overall."
Actually crime went up. Your bullshit claim has already been refuted by another poster.
Actually crime went up. Your bullshit claim has already been refuted by another poster.
Because there's no such thing as "the confines of your own home." That's the delusion of the Pothead Left, that drugs are used in a bubble and only the user suffers the consequences. More often, friends, family, co workers, and complete strangers are affected by drug use. Do you want your brain surgeon half baked? How about a crane operator or a truck driver? How about your kids' teacher or a police officer or fireman? Many of these "private drug users" are actually parents or other relatives exposing children to their lifestyle. Only people living on an island can say they aren't hurting anyone but themselves.They can demand all they want, but they aren't "free" to endanger me and my family.People would be demanding morphine more if they thought they could get it.No one has been placed on Marihuana. Individuals are demanding it on their own.
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Why can't Americans , free people they are, demand morphine?
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How does using morphine in the confines of your home endanger anyone?
I'm not convinced either way... yet. My issue with this particular article is that..... it's been only a year. One year? You think that's enough to work out all the long-term ramifications?
And on top of that, the article conveniently fails to mention the fact that crime has been declining for years, long before legalization. It's like catching the economy during an upswing, and passing a tax mid-upswing, and claiming... see the tax caused the economy to grow!
Or catching crime on a down swing, and passing a gun ban, mid-down-swing, and claiming.... see the gun ban lowered crime!
If there is already a pattern in progress, it's not intellectually honest to claim that a policy passed in the middle of the pattern, is responsible for the pattern.
By that logic, you would have to conclude that all the criminals were giving up their life of crime for 5 years, because they anticipated legalized pot in the future.
Well that's fantastic! Makes perfect sense to me.
Now that said... I'm not opposed to the idea that legalizing pot may in fact lower crime..... in fact.... that is very obvious. If you reduce the number of laws.... fewer laws can be broken. We can get to ZERO crime, if we just legalize.... EVERYTHING.
I really hate all those rape statistics..... I know... Let's legalize rape, and then we won't have any rape statistics anymore. Zero rapes recorded! Yay for society.
Of course that's insane.
The problem I have is, what are the long term ramifications from legalization. That's going to take years to figure out. It's not going to be determinable in a single year.
And perhaps it won't be that bad. But they did say the same thing about Alcohol in the 1940s. It won't be a big issue. Not a big deal. Nothing to be worried about. Of course today we know that alcohol is a contributing factor in tens of millions of crimes every year. 2/3rd of all domestic violence is alcohol related. 40% of all violent crimes, have alcohol as a factor.
Is it possible that a decade from now, we'll see similar problems related to pot? It's possible... is it not?
Nobody goes to jail for possession of under an oz of weed. That's what has been legalized.
Everything else is the same. It's still illegal to grow with intent to sell. It's still a felony to possess more than 40 oz. It's still illegal to possess any amount for minors. And they've added a Draconian new DUI rule of 5 nanograms per liter of blood, so now you can get a DUI for having smoked weed yesterday.
So, there may be valid reasons why crime is going down in CO. Ganja legalization ain't it.
Furthermore, the taxes aren't what people expected. The revenues are coming up way short, and the taxes are keeping the black market afloat.
And really, why would you buy a taxed product when you can just get your medical card for whatever ( headaches, depression, PMS ) and grow a few plants in your back yard?
Sorry, but it's not illegal to grow it or sell it in Colorado any longer.
Nobody goes to jail for possession of under an oz of weed. That's what has been legalized.
Everything else is the same. It's still illegal to grow with intent to sell. It's still a felony to possess more than 40 oz. It's still illegal to possess any amount for minors. And they've added a Draconian new DUI rule of 5 nanograms per liter of blood, so now you can get a DUI for having smoked weed yesterday.
So, there may be valid reasons why crime is going down in CO. Ganja legalization ain't it.
Furthermore, the taxes aren't what people expected. The revenues are coming up way short, and the taxes are keeping the black market afloat.
And really, why would you buy a taxed product when you can just get your medical card for whatever ( headaches, depression, PMS ) and grow a few plants in your back yard?
Sorry, but it's not illegal to grow it or sell it in Colorado any longer.
You don't know what you're talking about. You still get a felony and up to 5 years in jail and up to $10,000 fine for possession of over 40 oz.
The only things that changed; Over 21 adults can now legally buy up to an ounce from a state licensed provider , or up to a quarter ounce for non-residents. The DUI rules have been made more strict. Every other aspect of prohibition remains the same, including jail sentence guidelines.
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Colorado is a "shall issue" state for concealed carry weapons...and permits open carry.
Crime rates are dropping.
Coincidence? I doubt it.
