DACA--elimination-& the devasting consequences to Social Security & Medicare

[oreo]

There is nothing more BONE-HEADED to me, than sending kids that grew up here, and were educated here to a foreign country so they can stimulate the economy there (not here) to pay taxes there (not here.) Keeping in mind that there are dreamers all over this country that are on college campus's and in Universities.

Social Security/Medicare. Back in the 1950's average family size was 4 kids. Over the last several decades family size has been reduced to 2 or less kids. 10K babyboomers are entering social security on a daily basis, and this rate will continue for the next 9 to 10 years. Adding an additional 84 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities. One working person is now supporting 3 retirees on borrowed money from China. Social Security/Medicare is the reason we're continually having to raise the debt ceiling. Right now we don't have the younger generation population in this country to support the military.

So your options are:
1. Let Social Security/Medicare go bankrupt.
2 Cut benefits to the bone.
3. Raise the age of eligibility to 75 years old.
4. Means testing (meaning take from the wealthier to give to the poorer)
5. Keep kids that grew up in this country and that were educated in this country (right here) to support these funds, while also paying Federal and State taxes while stimulating the economy.

Reich wingers aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer when it comes to economics.

RONALD REAGAN started the biggest and longest lasting economic boom period in this country. What he do differently from other Presidents? With a swipe of a pen he legalized all illegals in this country.

They came out of their hiding places, got real jobs and started paying real taxes. They opened up their own business's and hired other Americans. They bought & built homes, American cars, T.V's and electronics, furniture, appliances. They went to school & paid for college educations. They had no fear. They set off the longest lasting economic boom period in this Nation's history.

If you don't remember what Ronald Reagan was like, you can watch this video from a long time friend and former staffer of Ronald Reagan.


The next serious consquence: Migrant workers are not crossing the border to help farmers bring in their harvests which is now skyrocketing prices on beef, chicken, eggs, milk and fruit and vegi's are rotting on the vine. All due to the hateful rhetoric coming from the Reich wing.
Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Maine farmers worry about workers’ future under Trump immigration policy
The shortage of farm workers and your grocery bill

The Republican party is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan. It is now the party of Trump. Stuffed full of ignorance, anger, hate, bigotry, & misogyny.

 

[TNHarley]

Ahhh ignore federal law so we can support unconstitutional actions. GENIUS!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The dreamers are on welfare because of their own jackpot babies, in prison, in gangs. They are creating carnage on our roads, fueling the opiod epidemic by spreading drugs smuggled in from their homeland. They are responsible for the greatest share of identity theft.

There are many countries in the world that do not border a nation of thieves and rapists. How do they farm? Surely they have cattle, fields, orchards. Mechanize. Bring in machines. Take away all welfare benefits from the able bodied and send them out to work. Bring back chain gangs to pick strawberries.

Just do NOT tell the United States of America that its survival depends on being invaded by a hostile force.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

 

[BluesLegend]

Its simple, illegals get the hell out of our country and take your damn kids with you.

 

[Asclepias]

Its simple, illegals get the hell out of our country and take your damn kids with you.

Are you Native American? If not you should shut up.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There is nothing more BONE-HEADED to me, than sending kids that grew up here, and were educated here to a foreign country so they can stimulate the economy there (not here) to pay taxes there (not here.) Keeping in mind that there are dreamers all over this country that are on college campus's and in Universities.

Social Security/Medicare. Back in the 1950's average family size was 4 kids. Over the last several decades family size has been reduced to 2 or less kids. 10K babyboomers are entering social security on a daily basis, and this rate will continue for the next 9 to 10 years. Adding an additional 84 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities. One working person is now supporting 3 retirees on borrowed money from China. Social Security/Medicare is the reason we're continually having to raise the debt ceiling. Right now we don't have the younger generation population in this country to support the military.

So your options are:
1. Let Social Security/Medicare go bankrupt.
2 Cut benefits to the bone.
3. Raise the age of eligibility to 75 years old.
4. Means testing (meaning take from the wealthier to give to the poorer)
5. Keep kids that grew up in this country and that were educated in this country (right here) to support these funds, while also paying Federal and State taxes while stimulating the economy.

Reich wingers aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer when it comes to economics.

RONALD REAGAN started the biggest and longest lasting economic boom period in this country. What he do differently from other Presidents? With a swipe of a pen he legalized all illegals in this country.

They came out of their hiding places, got real jobs and started paying real taxes. They opened up their own business's and hired other Americans. They bought & built homes, American cars, T.V's and electronics, furniture, appliances. They went to school & paid for college educations. They had no fear. They set off the longest lasting economic boom period in this Nation's history.

If you don't remember what Ronald Reagan was like, you can watch this video from a long time friend and former staffer of Ronald Reagan.


The next serious consquence: Migrant workers are not crossing the border to help farmers bring in their harvests which is now skyrocketing prices on beef, chicken, eggs, milk and fruit and vegi's are rotting on the vine. All due to the hateful rhetoric coming from the Reich wing.
Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Maine farmers worry about workers’ future under Trump immigration policy
The shortage of farm workers and your grocery bill

The Republican party is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan. It is now the party of Trump. Stuffed full of ignorance, anger, hate, bigotry, & misogyny.

If Social Security needs these illegal aliens in order to stay solvent, it should be privatized immediately.

 

[BluesLegend]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

 

[Asclepias]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

 

[BluesLegend]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

 

[Asclepias]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

Aint America great?

 

[otto105]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

 

[BluesLegend]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

Your post is a dishonest spun half truth, are you a liberal? Who controlled congress under Reagan? Which branch of government drafts and passes budgets?

 

[MrShangles]

Its simple, illegals get the hell out of our country and take your damn kids with you.

Are you Native American? If not you should shut up.

No we took the land from the natives because we could, so we must stop anyone from talking it from us.
You gotta beat the man to be the man!


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[Toddsterpatriot]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program.

When was it not "pay as you go"? Link?

 

[otto105]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

Your post is a dishonest spun half truth, are you a liberal? Who controlled congress under Reagan? Which branch of government drafts and passes budgets?

Yes, I am a Liberal and funny you should assert who controlled Congress during the Reagan Administration when clearly you don't know.

I stand by my previous post.

 

[BluesLegend]

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

Your post is a dishonest spun half truth, are you a liberal? Who controlled congress under Reagan? Which branch of government drafts and passes budgets?

Yes, I am a Liberal and funny you should assert who controlled Congress during the Reagan Administration when clearly you don't know.

I stand by my previous post.

Shocker, of course you stand by your spun intentionally dishonest half truth post, your liberal.

 

[Borillar]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

Your post is a dishonest spun half truth, are you a liberal? Who controlled congress under Reagan? Which branch of government drafts and passes budgets?

Who signs them into law?

 

[Asclepias]

Its simple, illegals get the hell out of our country and take your damn kids with you.

Are you Native American? If not you should shut up.

No we took the land from the natives because we could, so we must stop anyone from talking it from us.
You gotta beat the man to be the man!


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Taking and stealing are two different things. Taking would imply marching across the ocean and setting up shop. Whites lied and sniveled until their numbers grew large enough to force their way.

 

[otto105]

Am I getting the impression that Social Security and Medicare have been ponzi schemes all along?

Well I'm in my 50's and government has spent every last dime I have paid into Social Security and Medicare, they also spent every last dime my employer paid on my behalf. WTF seems an appropriate response.

What about your 401ks and your IRA's?

What about them? We are discussing how the federal government has raided Social Security stealing our money and how they have no way of paying us back. Now they are proposing to cheat us, by raising the retirement age hoping we die before we can collect a dime of our money.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program. Second, its republic pols who want to make changes that would further erode SS.

First, it was Ronnie Reagan who turned SS into (basically) a pay as you go program.

When was it not "pay as you go"? Link?

The 1983 SS Amendment to keep the Social Security Trust Fund out of the unified budget. The Reagan Administration kept it in the unified budget.