Debt Apocalypse, our economy will collapse within a decade.What’s your specific solution? Numbers.

[jc456]

Social Security is in the black for the next 15 years and I wouldn't further steal any more dough from it but rather either fix or eliminate the program. The more time we have to do, the less impact it will have on people.

Reduce spending by 5% a year. In 9 years we'd eliminate a third of what we're spending today.

Eliminate all categories of income and call a spade a spade by defining it as money received minus the dough directly spent by the receiver to earn it. Have 5 tax brackets ranging from 5%. Eliminate all deductions and credits.

To help keep spending under control eliminate federal tax withholding. Raise all tax rates in accordance with any spending increase (especially in cases where another GW Bush wants to start a war).

Have debt amortization schedule of 100 years. In good times pay off debt faster, in bad (when tax income is less) slow up re-payment to put it back on schedule.

A 2¢ tax per each word a person rambles on in social media (including message boards) with special loophole eliminating the tax for those having the characters "2¢" anywhere within their personal id as of 8/13/2019.

the budget comes from the House, tell em. they alt to.

 

[Brain357]

Cut spending across the board and increase taxes on the rich and corps. Now find a politician that will do it.

awesome jobs killing steps. bankrupt america in four steps.

Yes, you don’t care about deficits.

you don't obviously, you never said a word eight years of obammy. now you care? hmmmm nope. your still butt hurt at losing clinton. ahhhhh

I’ve been speaking against debt since Perot ran. But you like to talk out your ass.

sure you have. LOL one link to you bitching about the debt during obammy. go!!!

You are welcome to find it, you are the one making the baseless claim.

 

[Brain357]

Jc cares so much about debt he’ll vote for trump again. Huge deficits during a strong economy.

 

[jc456]

awesome jobs killing steps. bankrupt america in four steps.

Yes, you don’t care about deficits.

you don't obviously, you never said a word eight years of obammy. now you care? hmmmm nope. your still butt hurt at losing clinton. ahhhhh

I’ve been speaking against debt since Perot ran. But you like to talk out your ass.

sure you have. LOL one link to you bitching about the debt during obammy. go!!!

You are welcome to find it, you are the one making the baseless claim.

it's not baseless until you prove me wrong. go!!!

 

[bendog]

And we are fucked unless these yahoos start working together for all of us.

Why would they do that? Nancy Pelosi became worth 120,000,000.00 doing the opposite. So seriously whats their incentive? And if the citizens get restless well they just import more citizens.

She's somehow different from McConnell?

And Pelosi did force Paygo before the recession. Imo the dems are acting as they have since LBJ. The gop stopped being reasonable when the Freedom Caucus decided people would vote to end soc sec. They won't. Not if the dems give them another option.

OK so Mitch mcconell is worth 22,500,000.00

My point is the same. Whats the incentive for them? Looks like running the US bankrupt is highly profitable.

" Democracy and ‘progressive democracy’ are synonymous, and indistinguishable from the expansion of the state. Whilst ‘extreme right wing’ governments have, on rare occasions, momentarily arrested this process, its reversal lies beyond the bounds of democratic possibility. Since winning elections is overwhelmingly a matter of vote buying, and society’s informational organs (education and media) are no more resistant to bribery than the electorate, a thrifty politician is simply an incompetent politician, and the democratic variant of Darwinism quickly eliminates such misfits from the gene pool. This is a reality that the left applauds, the establishment right grumpily accepts, and the libertarian right has ineffectively railed against."
Moldbug

Rich people have served without lining up for the trough. I'm sure Pelosi has used her inside information to make investments. McConnell has specifically sided with making importing goods easier.

But McConnell to his credit, imo, did support a bipartisan agreement to raise future revenues less than the amount what would have been saved by reducing spending increases on social programs. And Obama supported it. Neither with wholehearted enthusiasm.

But the freedom caucus killed it. The votes were there in the House to pass it on a bipartisan vote, but Boehner wouldn't bring it up for a vote.

There's NO way cut spending without both parties buying in. McConnell says it. Obama did too. And McConnell said the issue is dead so long as Trump is potus. And that's largely why I'd vote for anyone but Hillary who opposes him. Biden too, I guess, but only because I really think he's lost his mind. He's reminding me of my old dog who died last month after suffering dementia for over a year. LOL The dog was lot more loveable though.

 

[jc456]

Jc cares so much about debt he’ll vote for trump again. Huge deficits during a strong economy.

hey poindexter, how come the bill from the house has a deficit? you voted for em right?

 

[Darkwind]

It’s so odd that lefties don’t care about the debt.

You guys are really misguided and really stupid.

It’s simple math. Our economy will crash at this pace within a decade. We won’t make our debt payments and interest rates will skyrocket because we will have to pay higher interest rates on T bills because we will be riskyz.

Keep worrying about transgendered rights.

Deficits were decreasing until we had 2 years of repubs in full control. Who doesn’t care?

Deficits may have been decreasing, but the debt was still growing.

Why are we spending more than we take it period?

Why did the Dems take over the house and then increase the deficit?

What is your specific solution?

Where is the tea party? They disappeared when deficits started increasing under trump.

My solution is everyone be an independent and vote out any politicians regardless of party that are not fiscally responsible. Trump needs to go...

I agree with you. Any politician who promotes more spending should be voted out of office. It is hilarious that you are focused on Trump.

HE does not write spending bills. The Democrats do.

 

[jc456]

And we are fucked unless these yahoos start working together for all of us.

Why would they do that? Nancy Pelosi became worth 120,000,000.00 doing the opposite. So seriously whats their incentive? And if the citizens get restless well they just import more citizens.

She's somehow different from McConnell?

And Pelosi did force Paygo before the recession. Imo the dems are acting as they have since LBJ. The gop stopped being reasonable when the Freedom Caucus decided people would vote to end soc sec. They won't. Not if the dems give them another option.

OK so Mitch mcconell is worth 22,500,000.00

My point is the same. Whats the incentive for them? Looks like running the US bankrupt is highly profitable.

" Democracy and ‘progressive democracy’ are synonymous, and indistinguishable from the expansion of the state. Whilst ‘extreme right wing’ governments have, on rare occasions, momentarily arrested this process, its reversal lies beyond the bounds of democratic possibility. Since winning elections is overwhelmingly a matter of vote buying, and society’s informational organs (education and media) are no more resistant to bribery than the electorate, a thrifty politician is simply an incompetent politician, and the democratic variant of Darwinism quickly eliminates such misfits from the gene pool. This is a reality that the left applauds, the establishment right grumpily accepts, and the libertarian right has ineffectively railed against."
Moldbug

Rich people have served without lining up for the trough. I'm sure Pelosi has used her inside information to make investments. McConnell has specifically sided with making importing goods easier.

But McConnell to his credit, imo, did support a bipartisan agreement to raise future revenues less than the amount what would have been saved by reducing spending increases on social programs. And Obama supported it. Neither with wholehearted enthusiasm.

But the freedom caucus killed it. The votes were there in the House to pass it on a bipartisan vote, but Boehner wouldn't bring it up for a vote.

There's NO way cut spending without both parties buying in. McConnell says it. Obama did too. And McConnell said the issue is dead so long as Trump is potus. And that's largely why I'd vote for anyone but Hillary who opposes him. Biden too, I guess, but only because I really think he's lost his mind. He's reminding me of my old dog who died last month after suffering dementia for over a year. LOL The dog was lot more loveable though.

tell that to the brain idiot in here.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The rich and powerful in Congress don’t give a crap about the debt. They want to grow government as much as they can and increase their sphere of influence as much as possible.

The debt will NEVER be brought up during the Dem debates....just as the gun murders in Chicago and Baltimore won’t be discussed, because those are real problems that are tough to solve.

 

[Brain357]

Jc cares so much about debt he’ll vote for trump again. Huge deficits during a strong economy.

hey poindexter, how come the bill from the house has a deficit? you voted for em right?

I typically vote out incumbents.

 

[jc456]

Jc cares so much about debt he’ll vote for trump again. Huge deficits during a strong economy.

hey poindexter, how come the bill from the house has a deficit? you voted for em right?

I typically vote out incumbents.

so you voted for palin?

 

[DOTR]

Biden too, I guess, but only because I really think he's lost his mind. He's reminding me of my old dog who died last month after suffering dementia for over a year. LOL The dog was lot more loveable though.

And probably sniffed fewer crotches.

 

[Brain357]

It’s so odd that lefties don’t care about the debt.

You guys are really misguided and really stupid.

It’s simple math. Our economy will crash at this pace within a decade. We won’t make our debt payments and interest rates will skyrocket because we will have to pay higher interest rates on T bills because we will be riskyz.

Keep worrying about transgendered rights.

Deficits were decreasing until we had 2 years of repubs in full control. Who doesn’t care?

Deficits may have been decreasing, but the debt was still growing.

Why are we spending more than we take it period?

Why did the Dems take over the house and then increase the deficit?

What is your specific solution?

Where is the tea party? They disappeared when deficits started increasing under trump.

My solution is everyone be an independent and vote out any politicians regardless of party that are not fiscally responsible. Trump needs to go...

I agree with you. Any politician who promotes more spending should be voted out of office. It is hilarious that you are focused on Trump.

HE does not write spending bills. The Democrats do.

He signs them and he signed the repub spending bill too. Trump had been a disaster for deficits. Why is that funny?

 

[DOTR]

There has been. Paygo...Gramm-Rudman...debt ceilings....

They have been really effective, huh?

Its not possible for them to be effective.

 

[Brain357]

Jc cares so much about debt he’ll vote for trump again. Huge deficits during a strong economy.

hey poindexter, how come the bill from the house has a deficit? you voted for em right?

I typically vote out incumbents.

so you voted for palin?

?

 

[Darkwind]

It’s so odd that lefties don’t care about the debt.

You guys are really misguided and really stupid.

It’s simple math. Our economy will crash at this pace within a decade. We won’t make our debt payments and interest rates will skyrocket because we will have to pay higher interest rates on T bills because we will be riskyz.

Keep worrying about transgendered rights.

Deficits were decreasing until we had 2 years of repubs in full control. Who doesn’t care?

Deficits may have been decreasing, but the debt was still growing.

Why are we spending more than we take it period?

Why did the Dems take over the house and then increase the deficit?

What is your specific solution?

Where is the tea party? They disappeared when deficits started increasing under trump.

My solution is everyone be an independent and vote out any politicians regardless of party that are not fiscally responsible. Trump needs to go...

I agree with you. Any politician who promotes more spending should be voted out of office. It is hilarious that you are focused on Trump.

HE does not write spending bills. The Democrats do.

He signs them and he signed the repub spending bill too. Trump had been a disaster for deficits. Why is that funny?

yes, and we've (real conservatives) have given him shit for it too.

Regardless, the bills originate in the House (Democrat-controlled) and the deficits are on them. The Debt is on ALL of THEM.

 

[ColonelAngus]

There should be legislation passed that we can’t spend more than we take in, period.

There has been. Paygo...Gramm-Rudman...debt ceilings....

They have been really effective, huh?

Its not possible for them to be effective.

Sure it is.

Congress doesn’t submit a budget that spends more than we will generate in taxes and President doesn’t sign one.

 

[jc456]

Jc cares so much about debt he’ll vote for trump again. Huge deficits during a strong economy.

hey poindexter, how come the bill from the house has a deficit? you voted for em right?

I typically vote out incumbents.

so you voted for palin?

?

romney then?

 

[DOTR]

And we are fucked unless these yahoos start working together for all of us.

Why would they do that? Nancy Pelosi became worth 120,000,000.00 doing the opposite. So seriously whats their incentive? And if the citizens get restless well they just import more citizens.

She's somehow different from McConnell?

And Pelosi did force Paygo before the recession. Imo the dems are acting as they have since LBJ. The gop stopped being reasonable when the Freedom Caucus decided people would vote to end soc sec. They won't. Not if the dems give them another option.

OK so Mitch mcconell is worth 22,500,000.00

My point is the same. Whats the incentive for them? Looks like running the US bankrupt is highly profitable.

" Democracy and ‘progressive democracy’ are synonymous, and indistinguishable from the expansion of the state. Whilst ‘extreme right wing’ governments have, on rare occasions, momentarily arrested this process, its reversal lies beyond the bounds of democratic possibility. Since winning elections is overwhelmingly a matter of vote buying, and society’s informational organs (education and media) are no more resistant to bribery than the electorate, a thrifty politician is simply an incompetent politician, and the democratic variant of Darwinism quickly eliminates such misfits from the gene pool. This is a reality that the left applauds, the establishment right grumpily accepts, and the libertarian right has ineffectively railed against."
Moldbug

Rich people have served without lining up for the trough. I'm sure Pelosi has used her inside information to make investments. McConnell has specifically sided with making importing goods easier.

But McConnell to his credit, imo, did support a bipartisan agreement to raise future revenues less than the amount what would have been saved by reducing spending increases on social programs. And Obama supported it. Neither with wholehearted enthusiasm.

But the freedom caucus killed it. The votes were there in the House to pass it on a bipartisan vote, but Boehner wouldn't bring it up for a vote.

There's NO way cut spending without both parties buying in. McConnell says it. Obama did too. And McConnell said the issue is dead so long as Trump is potus. And that's largely why I'd vote for anyone but Hillary who opposes him. Biden too, I guess, but only because I really think he's lost his mind. He's reminding me of my old dog who died last month after suffering dementia for over a year. LOL The dog was lot more loveable though.

Pelosi made her money by giving away yours in exchange for votes. But that shouldn't be a revelation. Its harder to get rich giving away your own money.

It isnt rich people specifically...our Founders were rich and they set up a government they thought would be honest. Its power. And yes wealth and power often go together.

All I am asking here is what is the incentive? Why would politicians give up the power inherent in giving away money they didnt earn?

 

[Siete]

stupid RW Tards dont know the difference between debt & deficit then expect people to believe their shit when they blame it on the House.

these morons crack me up -