Deporting all Illegals is dumb and will collapse the US economy

[DudleySmith]

Illegals provide cheap labor.

Cheap for their crooked employers, not for the country.

Ever see an ad for a new house offering a discount for being built by illegal aliens? Yeah me neither.

 

[HeyNorm]

Yes. It seems there is a big shortage of Democrats who will sponsor all these 'refugees' they claim to love and admire. There are more Democrats than 'refugees' so there shouldn't be any being put up in tents and hotels at all.

Big talkers.

To listen to most of them the economy is booming as is their personal wealth.

But ask them to pay the college debt they always complain about out of their own pockets? Crickets

Ask them to pay someone’s high cost of health care? Crickets

Ask them to put up some poor folks that came here illegally just looking for a better life. They run like rabbits.

They are amazing cheapskates

 

[Blaster]

Cheap for their crooked employers, not for the country.

Ever see an ad for a new house offering a discount for being built by illegal aliens? Yeah me neither.

Employers want bigger profits.

 

[DudleySmith]

Employers want bigger profits.

I want my own zeppelin and a ferrari, but the govt won't subsidize it, so I'm doing without.

 

[Care4all]

He's talking about mobilizing the army.

And I'm all for it.

Novel problems call for novel solutions.

Unconstitutional to use the military within our border on domestic issues.

 

[DudleySmith]

Silence in the Fields

The U.S. government is allowing farmers to fill thousands of jobs with foreign 'guestworkers.' The conditions are hardly hospitable -- but those who speak out can be sent straight back home.

www.motherjones.com

Although the process is designed to ensure American workers get first crack at any jobs, only a handful wind up being hired. According to growers, that’s because few apply. “The unemployment rate is at a 30-year low,” says Stan Eury. “It doesn’t take an analyst to show you there’s a labor shortage. Anyone who says there’s not is an absolute idiot.” Farmwork, he adds, “operates at the bottom rung of the job ladder, and in a time of strong employment, those bottom rungs are the first vacated.”


In fact, study after study of the H-2A program concludes that there’s actually a surplus of agricultural labor, not a shortage. “Unemployment and underemployment are endemic among farmworkers,” says one Labor Department report. “Even at the seasonal peak in September, one-third of farmworkers are still not working in U.S. agriculture.” In studies and congressional testimony about the program, the General Accounting Office also dismisses the idea of a labor shortage. “Agricultural employers in most of the United States have had adequate supplies of labor for many years and continue to do so,” the GAO reports.

The agency acknowledges that some regions do experience local shortages, but notes that those might be alleviated “with fairly modest wage increases.” Instead, H-2A enables farmers — from small operators to corporate giants employing more than 600 workers — to effectively circumvent the free market, paying guestworkers as little as $6.39 an hour rather than raising hourly wages to attract U.S. workers. “A lot of farmers say, ‘I advertised for 300 jobs and no one applied,'” says Thom Myers, a farmworker advocate in Raleigh, North Carolina. “But what about the guy who runs a hardware store who has the same argument? What about the guy who runs a restaurant? If this was any other industry, the government would say, ‘Hey, raise your pay until the supply and demand curves cross.'”


Rather than pay market wages, H-2A growers have instead developed a litany of schemes to ward off domestic workers. In Idaho, the Snake River Farmer’s Association urged its members to write backbreaking job descriptions to discourage Americans from applying. “Irrigators or pipe movers is a great job description because no one wants to move pipe,” explains an association handout. Farmers in other states have turned away U.S. residents for being a few minutes late for interviews, or for not knowing the fine points of federal labor law. In North Carolina, the Growers Association says it hires domestic workers after a simple five-minute phone interview — but state officials describe the process as intentionally inefficient and even hostile. “They go out of their way to discourage local workers from seeking employment,” Lee Albritton, a former job-service employee, wrote in a memo to his supervisors. In 1999, the state found jobs on non-H-2A farms for 12,700 domestic workers. By contrast, on H-2A farms, the state found jobs for only seven workers.

 

[Blaster]

Unconstitutional to use the military within our border on domestic issues.

Nonsense.

 

[DudleySmith]

Employers want bigger profits.

At the expense of American citizens and taxpayers. Fuck em. If they can't pay market rates, that means there isn't enough demand for what they're selling.

 

[Failzero]

Unconstitutional to use the military within our border on domestic issues.

National Guard units augmented by Navy Shore Patrol , USAF Base Police , And JAG Officers Along with State & Local Regional LEOs & Sheriffs

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Unconstitutional to use the military within our border on domestic issues.

Nope.

 

[Care4all]

Nope.

Link??

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Link??

"LINK??? LINK I SAY!!!! LINK!?!?!?"

You made the assertion jackass.

I don't have to prove a negative, back up your own argument.

Spoiler Alert: You can't.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump makes bold statements about "mass deportations" primarily as a messaging to deter illegals from even starting the journey. He will deport and/or imprison the dangerous ones which any President who cared about Americans would do. That of course leaves Biden out.

And to keep them from trying to cast a vote in November...

 

[Rambunctious]

Link??

Yes.... you and a communist pig....

 

[Failzero]

Link??

US Marines and Regular Army were inserted into the 1992 Los Angeles Riots to augment LEOs & later Cal NG

 

[Rambunctious]

Unconstitutional to use the military within our border on domestic issues.

So when the National guard goes to areas hit by disasters like a Hurricane you think that's illegal?... who told you that?...

 

[citygator]

Republicans want low cost labor they can exploit and they want to scare whitey with scary stories of brown people. How to accomplish both? Scream about immigration but dont do anything about it. Check and Check.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Employers want bigger profits.

Gringo Greed

 

[Failzero]

Will

Gringo Greed

Will be countered by Operation Wetback
2.0

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Unconstitutional to use the military within our border on domestic issues.

"The Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact": Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes