Destroying the Rule of Law to Get Trump

[hadit]

Teabaggers blossomed into the gullible, lying, traitors of the Trump cult.

Weren't the Teabaggers the halftime show at the last DNC convention?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Weren't the Teabaggers the halftime show at the last DNC convention?

No, they were at Mar A Lardo.

 

[hadit]

No, they were at Mar A Lardo.

No, I checked. Pretty sure it was the DNC convention.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

No, I checked. Pretty sure it was the DNC convention.

Sure you did.

 

[OKTexas]

So you are suggesting that Justice Gorsuch will not find the same way when the party involved or affected is Trump?

Nope, just completely different circumstances.

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[Stryder50]

Quit lying. Just stop, Stryder50. No one believes you would be my best at 8 to 1.

A liar telling me not to lie. How amusing and ridiculous!
Also one whom is a phony "Native American" as if among the human species of migrants out of Africa there could be such a concept as "native" on other continents.

I don't care where I am in your garbled "best at 8 to 1" delusions. I'm here to counter the socialist/communist/anti-American propaganda coming form you and many other deadwood, non-productive, parasites spewing trash on this forum.

If anything you should drop the phony username and avatar that you don't really own, and then try replacing the mush for brains with something of real intellect.

 

[Stryder50]

Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
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And, HERE WE ARE!!!!

Yup!
This communist plan has infected the US Left after the past few decades of willing absorption of the Marxist propaganda.

The US Left is the ignorant fools and tools of the major ideology that is enemy to the USA and our Constitution.

 

[Stryder50]

You're really in no position to criticize anyone else' knowledge of Constitutional law. There isn't a single Constitutional scholar or practicing attorney who has signed onto any of the legally insane defense strategies Trump is trying to float.

The mere fact that you're suggesting Trump's prosecution is anything other than legally necessary, shows your abject ignorance of the US Constitution. Hardly surprising given that right wing media has been lying to you about the Constitution for decades.

Since you and many other phony "expert" citizens don't know the Constitution and it's Amendments, for reference here the text of the two referred to in the OP;
Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The Amendments | Constitution Center

There have been 27 amendments to the Constitution, beginning with the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments

constitutioncenter.org

 

[Stryder50]

To them, it and sites like it all provide The Truth™. We need to understand that. We can't dismiss them or their influence. The danger is only increasing.

Stick with Pravda then Komrade.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

A liar telling me not to lie. How amusing and ridiculous!
Also one whom is a phony "Native American" as if among the human species of migrants out of Africa there could be such a concept as "native" on other continents.

I don't care where I am in your garbled "best at 8 to 1" delusions. I'm here to counter the socialist/communist/anti-American propaganda coming form you and many other deadwood, non-productive, parasites spewing trash on this forum.

If anything you should drop the phony username and avatar that you don't really own, and then try replacing the mush for brains with something of real intellect.

You are babbling. You don't understand the burden of proof when you make an allegation. There is no American marxist propaganda but there is a RepuliMAGAfascism that you represent.

You can ad hom all you want. But we will call you out every time you lie.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Stryder50's hysterical rebuttal to DragonLady proves that she is right.

 

[Stryder50]

Actually, the message is…….If you think the laws don’t apply to you, you are sadly mistaken

Which we have been seeing for the past couple of decades with Democrat POTUS whom have sought to rerite the Constitution and implement a new socialist/communist government order in the USA.

 

[Stryder50]

NO.

WTF?
How would you feel about a democrat candidate reaching out/contacting N.Korea, Cuba or Iran?

Would depend for what reason.
If to try and get them to reform and amend their agendas and joined the rest of the civilized world, might be all for it.
If it was to return their impounded finances and aid their development of nuclear weapons, such as Obama did, then I'd oppose it.

 

[Stryder50]

They must be dismssed in order for them to lose credibility.

Same applies then to stooges and tools such as yourself whom support, present, and promote propaganda and dis-information (fake news).

 

[Stryder50]

So many lies in just that one excerpt, one does not know where to begin.

That's because they aren't lies and you are clueless on what fake news propaganda to spew.

 

[SavannahMann]

Since you and many other phony "expert" citizens don't know the Constitution and it's Amendments, for reference here the text of the two referred to in the OP;
Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The Amendments | Constitution Center

There have been 27 amendments to the Constitution, beginning with the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments

constitutioncenter.org

So what is Trump being deprived of without compensation or due process? There is no right to be President is there?

 

[Stryder50]

Now Biden is a burglar able to sneak in and get dozens of documents without anyone knowing. Unlikely.

What probably happened? The documents were sent to him by the White House so he could be aware and God Forbid anything happen to Obama we didn’t have a replay of Truman when FDR died.

Biden should have returned those documents once out of office. Otherwise he remains as "guilty" as some would claim Trump is.
A replay of "Truman" in wake of Obama would have spared the nation from some of the damage Obama did.

 

[Stryder50]

There's a difference between international politics, and trying to take over the US government.

If you worked on this basis then the US would be incapable of dealing with any country anyone deems "an enemy of the US".

Obama and Biden have NOT helped Iran in the slightest. Heavy sanctions were put in place, for a start.

Those two traitors eased the sanctions and returned the impounded funds, hence aid to an enemy of the USA.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Those two traitors eased the sanctions and returned the impounded funds, hence aid to an enemy of the USA.

Yeah... if you want politics for knuckle draggers. Otherwise no.

But I guess if you and your mates say it a million times, it becomes true, hey?

 

[Stryder50]

The Hatch act prevents political campaigning, discussing politics in the workplace, holding political positions.

Making a Deep State unworkable

Doesn't prevent a person(guv'mint employee) from holding political positions when it comes to what they think or how they vote.
Would allow discussing politics away from the workplace.
Doesn't prevent using personal political bias from affecting how they interpret or apply regulations or laws, or which ones they may choose to ignore.