Zone1 Did you exist before you were born into this life?

[onefour1]

Here is scriptural evidence that we all existed as the spirit children of God the Father before we were born into this mortal world:

Man, Antemortal Existence of​

• See also Council in Heaven; Foreordination; Man, a Spirit Child of Heavenly Father; Spirit Creation
• God of the spirits of all flesh, Num. 16:22 (27:16).
• all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7.
• the spirit shall return unto God who gave it, Eccl. 12:7.
• Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, Jer. 1:5.
• Lord … formeth the spirit of man within him, Zech. 12:1.
• who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind, John 9:2.
• poets have said, For we are also his offspring, Acts 17:28.
• For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate, Rom. 8:29.
• chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, Eph. 1:4.
• subjection unto the Father of spirits, Heb. 12:9.
• angels which kept not their first estate, Jude 1:6.
• Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, Rev. 12:7.
• called and prepared from the foundation of the world, Alma 13:3.
• bringeth them back into the presence of the Lord, Hel. 14:17.
• third part of the hosts of heaven turned he away, D&C 29:36.
• seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made, D&C 38:1.
• man, according to his creation before the world, D&C 49:17.
• Man was also in the beginning with God, D&C 93:29.
• choice spirits who were reserved to come forth, D&C 138:53.
• before they were born … received their first lessons, D&C 138:56.
• in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth, Moses 3:5.
• he beheld the spirits that God had created, Moses 6:36.
• intelligences that were organized before the world was, Abr. 3:22.
• he stood among those that were spirits, Abr. 3:23.
• took his spirit … and put it into him, Abr. 5:7.
• See also Prov. 8:22–31; John 1:2, 14; 8:58; 16:28; 17:5, 24; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 1:2; 3 Ne. 1:13; 26:5; Ether 3:16.

What is the scriptural evidence that we did not exist prior to being born into this world?

 

[luiza]

Mass Formation Psychosis at its best

 

[sparky]

What is the scriptural evidence that we did not exist prior to being born into this world?

'scriptural' is not evidence 1/4/1

~S~

 

[deannalw]

If I existed before this life, nobody ever told me about it.

You'd think they'd at least leave a note.

 

[ding]

What is the scriptural evidence that we did not exist prior to being born into this world?

The evidence is the lack of in context scriptural passage on the subject. Gathering scattered discrete unrelated passages out of context to coble together a dogmatic belief is fraught with subjectivity and error.

 

[onefour1]

If I existed before this life, nobody ever told me about it.

You'd think they'd at least leave a note.

This post is your note.

 

[deannalw]

This post is your note.

Oh.

Who was I?

I hope I left me some money somewhere.

 

[Moonglow]

Here is scriptural evidence that we all existed as the spirit children of God the Father before we were born into this mortal world:

Man, Antemortal Existence of​

• See also Council in Heaven; Foreordination; Man, a Spirit Child of Heavenly Father; Spirit Creation
• God of the spirits of all flesh, Num. 16:22 (27:16).
• all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7.
• the spirit shall return unto God who gave it, Eccl. 12:7.
• Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, Jer. 1:5.
• Lord … formeth the spirit of man within him, Zech. 12:1.
• who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind, John 9:2.
• poets have said, For we are also his offspring, Acts 17:28.
• For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate, Rom. 8:29.
• chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, Eph. 1:4.
• subjection unto the Father of spirits, Heb. 12:9.
• angels which kept not their first estate, Jude 1:6.
• Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, Rev. 12:7.
• called and prepared from the foundation of the world, Alma 13:3.
• bringeth them back into the presence of the Lord, Hel. 14:17.
• third part of the hosts of heaven turned he away, D&C 29:36.
• seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made, D&C 38:1.
• man, according to his creation before the world, D&C 49:17.
• Man was also in the beginning with God, D&C 93:29.
• choice spirits who were reserved to come forth, D&C 138:53.
• before they were born … received their first lessons, D&C 138:56.
• in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth, Moses 3:5.
• he beheld the spirits that God had created, Moses 6:36.
• intelligences that were organized before the world was, Abr. 3:22.
• he stood among those that were spirits, Abr. 3:23.
• took his spirit … and put it into him, Abr. 5:7.
• See also Prov. 8:22–31; John 1:2, 14; 8:58; 16:28; 17:5, 24; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 1:2; 3 Ne. 1:13; 26:5; Ether 3:16.

What is the scriptural evidence that we did not exist prior to being born into this world?

But of course, I am recycled energy.

 

[Stryder50]

Here's your first word "game";
The Creator is said to be eternal = no beginning nor an end.
One can't get something from nothing, therefore the Creator created this cosmos/universe from It's own substance.
Hence the physical realm is eternal, and so would be the spiritual.
Therefore you would have an existence prior to this physical life you currently lead.

 

[Stryder50]

If I existed before this life, nobody ever told me about it.

You'd think they'd at least leave a note.

Yeah, you are supposed to do something like that in your past life.
Trick is to "remember" where to find it.

 

[Stryder50]

It's a quick read. As a World War Two history and aviation history buff, this is very authentic on the details from his previous life.

Soul Survivor: The Reincarnation of a World War II Fighter Pilot​

This is the story of James Leininger, who-- a little more than two weeks after his second birthday-- began having blood-curdling nightmares that just would not stop. When James began screaming out recurring phrases like, "Plane on fire! Little man can't get out!" the Leiningers finally admitted that they truly had to take notice.

When details of planes and war tragedies no two-year-old boy could know continued-- even in stark daylight-- Bruce and Andrea Leininger began to realize that this was an incredible situation. SOUL SURVIVOR is the story of how the Leiningers pieced together what their son was communicating and eventually discovered that he was reliving the past life of World War II fighter pilot James Huston. As Bruce Leininger struggled to understand what was happening to his son, he also uncovered details of James Huston's life-- and death-- as a pilot that will fascinate military buffs everywhere.

In SOUL SURVIVOR, we are taken for a gripping ride as the Leiningers' belief system is shaken to the core, and both of these families come to know a little boy who, against all odds and even in the face of true skeptics, harbors the soul of this man who died long ago.

https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Survivor-Reincarnation-World-Fighter/dp/0446509337?tag=usmb-20

It's a very convincing account.

Especially the part when young James L. meets with his previous incarnation James Huston's sister and they share memories and details from their life together as children.

 

[CosmicRocker]

anatta = no permanent self (Buddhist)

 

[sparky]

It's a quick read. As a World War Two history and aviation history buff, this is very authentic on the details from his previous life.

Soul Survivor: The Reincarnation of a World War II Fighter Pilot​

This is the story of James Leininger, who-- a little more than two weeks after his second birthday-- began having blood-curdling nightmares that just would not stop. When James began screaming out recurring phrases like, "Plane on fire! Little man can't get out!" the Leiningers finally admitted that they truly had to take notice.

When details of planes and war tragedies no two-year-old boy could know continued-- even in stark daylight-- Bruce and Andrea Leininger began to realize that this was an incredible situation. SOUL SURVIVOR is the story of how the Leiningers pieced together what their son was communicating and eventually discovered that he was reliving the past life of World War II fighter pilot James Huston. As Bruce Leininger struggled to understand what was happening to his son, he also uncovered details of James Huston's life-- and death-- as a pilot that will fascinate military buffs everywhere.

In SOUL SURVIVOR, we are taken for a gripping ride as the Leiningers' belief system is shaken to the core, and both of these families come to know a little boy who, against all odds and even in the face of true skeptics, harbors the soul of this man who died long ago.

https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Survivor-Reincarnation-World-Fighter/dp/0446509337?tag=usmb-20

It's a very convincing account.

yes i've read that from other sources as well Stryder , thx ~S~

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

As there were "some" cases of supposed reincarnation that are still unexplainable, the jury would have to be out on the topic. As it is so very few individuals, this does lead to understandable doubt on the topic.
Personally, I think we're just "one and done" when it comes to life.

 

[BreezeWood]

there must be a spiritual presence, metaphysical forces responsible to produce both the physiology and its unique spiritual content that materializes and evolves into a new living organism when birth is accomplished.

 

[sparky]

there must be a spiritual presence, metaphysical forces responsible to produce both the physiology and its unique spiritual content that materializes and evolves into a new living organism when birth is accomplished.

Assuming that is so , no proof exists , at least in the scientific sense

So the probability of it being far different than we're told is rather distinct Breeze

~S~

 

[buttercup]

No, we didn't exist — except for as a thought in the mind of God.

(Which reminds me of the saying..."Just a gleam in your father's eye.")

As it says in Jeremiah 1:5, "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you."

 

[BreezeWood]

So the probability of it being far different than we're told is rather distinct Breeze

no religious intent is intended than the metaphysical forces that create life posses a distinction and affinity between good vs evil one over the other as purity for their creation would warrant such a state to solidify its creation - that after birth would require that life to follow the same criteria or eventually perish. all living beings ...

Then they said, “Let us make life in our image, in our likeness, the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky the livestock and all the wild animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground.”

- what is claimed in the 1st century - not found in the 4th century christian bible as the repudiation of judaism.

 

[luiza]

If I existed before this life, nobody ever told me about it.

You'd think they'd at least leave a note.

So you prefer living in a pre- determined Universe with no free choice .
Very Sheeepletish .

 

[onefour1]

2 Timothy 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,