Disaster Capitalism

[Bfgrn]

Hell maybe the republicans will vote to ruin the country by not raising the debt limit.

Maybe they have been promised a piece of the pie after we all get fucked.

hey, moron. you have it backwards.

Ruining the country would be raising the limit. Tell me, is it better to pay credit card debt with credit cards or better to just pay your bill? Honestly.

So what do you think would happen to our debt if we default? Try it with you credit card and see how much leverage it gives you.

 

[Steelplate]

BriPat... you are so sure that your side is Correct on all issues... You are willing to believe all the "Obama is the antichrist" crap that your side spews. But even plausible scenarios... because they come from the "left", is all propaganda.

There's no idiot like a useful one. The Koch brothers ought to knight you.

Of course it's propaganda. Socialism is a colossal swindle. Every argument used to support it is a lie. This is just one more.

Obama is a Marist thug.

And Corporatism isn't? You really think that the most powerful ought to get all the legal breaks in addition to their already incredibly wealthy status? Because look around you slick... that's exactly what's happening.

How old are you? If your young enough(if your side gets it's way) you are in for a rude awakening. Once Corporations have full control of our country(they already have control of a significant chunk), your opinions ain't gonna matter anymore. You keep speaking of tyranny? You have no clue what tyranny is. What's more tyrannical than leaders you can't vote out... That's exactly what Corporatism does.

What you are unwittingly trying to do is turn the United States of America into the world's largest Banana Republic.... and no... not the one you buy clothes from.

You want to scale back the power of our DULY ELECTED Representation in Washington and hand it over to Greed. Somehow... you think that if you do that... things will be better.

History proves it. Look at the late 1800's-early 1900's for an example.

 

[mudwhistle]

Of course the REAL concern isn't that people are waiting in the wings hoping for some SHOCK to give them an opportunity to foist their pet projects and plans on the public.

You mean like Obamacare, the "stimulus," the auto union bailout?

I was thinking more like 911 and invading Iraq.

911 was, but invading Iraq was only a disaster for Iraqis and the US troops.

We seem to be doing okay. I mean, you still can afford electricity to power your PC.

 

[Truthmatters]

You mean like Obamacare, the "stimulus," the auto union bailout?

I was thinking more like 911 and invading Iraq.

911 was, but invading Iraq was only a disaster for Iraqis and the US troops.

We seem to be doing okay. I mean, you still can afford electricity to power your PC.

So the bill for it was fine with you huh?

 

[bripat9643]

Overspending on govt, personal and corporate levels created this mess we are now in.

Corporations, on the whole, don't overspend. Only government does that, and Democrats are the authors of almost all the programs the government spends money on. Blaming "the rich" or Republicans for excessive government spending is absurd.

And Bush did more than his share to contribute to the current mess.

True, and that's why we don't need anymore RINO Republicans like Bush. However, the Dims never opposed any of that spending.

 

[The T]

The question is why do you think Capitalism is some magic pony?

There's nothing "magic" about capitalism. It's purely a matter of respecting the laws of economics. Any attempt to flout the laws of economics results in disaster. That's what socialism is, an assault on the laws of economics.

And people exercising their economic liberty unabated by Government control clowns like Obama, the Congress, and the criminal named Timmy Geithner, and the Federal Reserve.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Bush SEC held back for YEARS the very protections written into the GLB act so that the lenders could do whatever they wanted.

They did and we got fucked.

You are nothing but a cheerleader.

You never have anything of factual basis to say.

Please iron your little skirt and go have a slumber party with your other cheerleaders.

Did you read that somewhere, or make it up yourself?

I have the feeling you read it somewhere.

 

[Bfgrn]

You guys are forgetting that Bush and team created the economic disaster

That's utter horseshit. Bush didn't create the sub-prime mortgage debacle. I realize leftwing toadies will keep pushing this bogus theiry until doomsday, but people like me will always be here to debunk it.

Who did create the sub-prime mortgage debacle?

 

[bripat9643]

The Bush SEC held back for YEARS the very protections written into the GLB act so that the lenders could do whatever they wanted.

In other words, the law under Bush was no different than the law under Clinton, but we are supposed to believe that somehow Bush is responsible?

The liberal talent for ignoring facts is incomparable.

 

[Truthmatters]

The Bush SEC held back for YEARS the very protections written into the GLB act so that the lenders could do whatever they wanted.

In other words, the law under Bush was no different than the law under Clinton, but we are supposed to believe that somehow Bush is responsible?

The liberal talent for ignoring facts is incomparable.

No that is NOT what was said.

Why do you have so much truoble understand the facts?

 

[uscitizen]

You mean like Obamacare, the "stimulus," the auto union bailout?

I was thinking more like 911 and invading Iraq.

911 was, but invading Iraq was only a disaster for Iraqis and the US troops.

We seem to be doing okay. I mean, you still can afford electricity to power your PC.

Ahh a totally self centered viewpoint. How unrefreshing. Makes me feel kinda slimey actually.

 

[bripat9643]

Who did create the sub-prime mortgage debacle?

The idiots who forced banks to loan money to people who couldn't pay it back.

 

[grunt11b]

How many of you know what it is?

Just remember, your socialism could not survive without my capitalism. For someone who loves other peoples money you sure are hateful to those who create the job opportunities and those who work those jobs.
Tell me something...do you have a job? If so, you are a capitalist, that is unless you work for free.

 

[bripat9643]

In other words, the law under Bush was no different than the law under Clinton, but we are supposed to believe that somehow Bush is responsible?

The liberal talent for ignoring facts is incomparable.

No that is NOT what was said.

Why do you have so much truoble understand the facts?

That is exactly what you said.

 

[grunt11b]

Yes Im sure those who know what it is have seen the shock doctrine.

But I bet very few on the right would watch the movie and dont know what it is

You're boring the shit out of everyone.

 

[Truthmatters]

How many of you know what it is?

Just remember, your socialism could not survive without my capitalism. For someone who loves other peoples money you sure are hateful to those who create the job opportunities and those who work those jobs.
Tell me something...do you have a job? If so, you are a capitalist, that is unless you work for free.

My socialism?

Look if you could be honest for just a couple of minutes and quit using the fucking lies you lap up from your masters you may actually learn something all on your own instead of having to be told what to think by some right wing hack site.

 

[driveby]

How many of you know what it is?

Just remember, your socialism could not survive without my capitalism. For someone who loves other peoples money you sure are hateful to those who create the job opportunities and those who work those jobs.
Tell me something...do you have a job? If so, you are a capitalist, that is unless you work for free.

She's a slumlord and a hypocrite......

 

[Truthmatters]

Capitalism is the key to mans freedom.

I am a Capitalist.

I jsut am not so brainwashed as to think it is perfection.

It like EVERY system has it dangers.

When you correctly fetter it with wise regulations and are willing to alter those regulations as needed then you get a system that is Awsome.

There is no automatic setting where you can set it and forget it.

That is a braindead lie from the very people who benifit from an unfettered market.

You bought their lies.

 

[mudwhistle]

You guys are forgetting that Bush and team created the economic disaster

That's utter horseshit. Bush didn't create the sub-prime mortgage debacle. I realize leftwing toadies will keep pushing this bogus theiry until doomsday, but people like me will always be here to debunk it.

Who did create the sub-prime mortgage debacle?

Bush warned Congress years before it happened.

Folks like Barney Frwank and Chris Dodd ignored him.

When the Dems took over Jan of 07 they tightened lending regulations. Up until that point anyone could get a loan with no qualifications under the Sub-prime program using "Stated Income" as a qualification. I was a loan officer during in the period leading up to the housing debacle so I know what was going on.

I remember seeing families that couldn't afford to pay their rent moving into mansions and trashing the place, living rent free, then just leaving the place a mess. This was going on all over the country. Somebody told them they could get away with it, so they did it.

Some people that obtained ARM loans during the period before 07 needed to refinance to avoid massive increases in their payments and found they no-longer qualified for the home they lived in. So many of them defaulted and just walked away from their mortgages. People that need these types of programs even to qualify for a loan in the first place due to bad credit did what they always do, they shirked their responsibility.

A lack of accountability is the primary cause of the sub-prime crisis.

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism is the key to mans freedom.

I am a Capitalist.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You, a capitalist?

You are such a hoot!

I jsut am not so brainwashed as to think it is perfection.

There's the ubiquitous "but" that every covert socialist gives when claiming he's really a capitalist.