Dissecting John Stossel's Anti-Communist Lies

[Red Front]

Swim to Cuba, asshole!

Make me.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Make me.

Just as soon as you MAKE ME adhere to your retarded FAILED ideology.

 

[Red Front]

Just as soon as you MAKE ME adhere to your retarded FAILED ideology.

Capitalism is a complete failure, relying on socialism to bail it out every seven to twelve years.

RANK	PARENT	SUBSIDY VALUE.	NUMBER OF AWARDS
1	Boeing	$15,136,286,466	946
2	Intel	$8,371,896,017	133
3	Ford Motor	$7,761,916,195	815
4	General Motors	$7,594,509,872	990
5	Micron Technology	$6,785,681,915	18
6	Alcoa	$5,798,600,778	160
7	X-Energy LLC	$5,661,511,202	17
8	General Atomics	$5,465,529,295	438
9	Cheniere Energy	$5,431,565,870	41
10	Amazon.com	$5,191,773,349	333
11	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,827,036,483	76
12	Sempra Energy	$3,835,098,001	53
13	Southern Company	$3,783,360,569	130
14	NRG Energy	$3,586,516,301	268
15	Venture Global LNG	$3,285,883,566	6
16	NextEra Energy	$3,003,823,754	117
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,836,366,619	116
18	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
19	Stellantis	$2,800,442,867	230
20	Volkswagen	$2,740,983,143	222
21	General Electric	$2,529,193,561	1,668
22	Nucor	$2,514,358,340	158
23	Walt Disney	$2,421,304,588	248
24	Brookfield Asset Management	$2,339,430,278	304
25	Toyota	$2,303,826,689	199
26	Iberdrola	$2,285,768,043	112
27	Summit Power	$2,240,568,236	8
28	Shell PLC	$2,184,517,527	141
29	Oracle	$2,167,890,528	88
30	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
31	Nike	$2,104,917,829	138
32	Hyundai Motor	$2,072,957,848	27
33	SCS Energy	$1,927,236,683	10
34	Archer Daniels Midland	$1,920,305,787	1,099
35	Exxon Mobil	$1,891,153,489	207
36	NuScale Power	$1,880,780,589	34
37	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,859,775,471	1,158
38	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	87
39	Alphabet Inc.	$1,832,565,977	116
40	Paramount Global	$1,751,801,882	317
41	Apple Inc.	$1,750,043,420	36
42	Comcast	$1,722,467,426	376
43	JPMorgan Chase	$1,663,890,873	1,129
44	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,654,401,303	137
45	Energy Transfer	$1,634,074,422	106
46	Samsung	$1,586,310,806	70
47	PG&E Corp.	$1,568,027,901	27
48	IBM Corp.	$1,562,738,626	387
49	SkyWest	$1,550,492,958	683
50	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$1,532,854,012	3
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	Panasonic	$1,385,969,341	61
53	Raytheon Technologies	$1,322,899,721	952
54	Duke Energy	$1,318,084,164	69
55	Lockheed Martin	$1,302,847,415	337
56	Corning Inc.	$1,272,628,059	395
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,266,804,354	266
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,243,857,336	32
61	Microsoft	$1,153,690,869	103
62	Jefferies Financial Group	$1,120,662,497	18
63	Meta Platforms Inc.	$1,105,098,844	53
64	Dow Inc.	$1,091,152,544	686
65	Abengoa	$1,082,660,583	63
66	SK Holdings	$1,081,550,283	9
67	LG	$1,055,690,737	103
68	Valero Energy	$1,054,520,860	199
69	Exelon	$1,040,601,369	98
70	AES Corp.	$1,010,194,632	132
71	CF Industries	$982,271,715	129
72	Pyramid Companies	$966,050,097	91
73	EDF-Electricite de France	$940,247,983	65
74	Texas Instruments	$940,071,436	60
75	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
76	Air Products & Chemicals	$897,651,105	248
77	Delta Air Lines	$876,412,623	14
78	Centene	$875,064,432	54
79	Bayer	$849,175,809	202
80	Honda	$846,026,154	91
81	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	83
82	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$826,062,285	104
83	SunEdison	$812,753,318	119
84	Apollo Global Management	$804,565,970	471
85	Goldman Sachs	$801,573,386	255
86	E.ON	$782,609,880	38
87	Wolfspeed Inc.	$773,681,732	88
88	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
89	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
90	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$725,632,525	206
91	Gotion	$715,000,000	1
92	American Electric Power	$699,673,821	92
93	Bank of America	$698,760,073	919
94	Johnson Controls	$691,180,720	144
95	Related Companies	$687,200,000	1
96	Caithness Energy	$670,379,738	28
97	Hyannis Air Service Inc.	$667,928,778	296
98	Koch Industries	$662,557,530	486
99	Sagamore Development	$660,000,000	1

Capitalists will by necessity, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence, adopt socialism. I don't have to make you do anything, the circumstances will force you to do it.

Advanced Automation = The end of capitalism, the beginning of the socialist age.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Communism has only ever produced dictators along with masses of poor people

And gulags and mass graves.

 

[Red Front]

And gulags and mass graves.

That's where Todds in the USSR went, especially when they would burn fields, destroy equipment, murder socialist farmers, teachers..etc.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Capitalism is a complete failure, relying on socialism to bail it out every seven to twelve years.

RANK	PARENT	SUBSIDY VALUE.	NUMBER OF AWARDS
1	Boeing	$15,136,286,466	946
2	Intel	$8,371,896,017	133
3	Ford Motor	$7,761,916,195	815
4	General Motors	$7,594,509,872	990
5	Micron Technology	$6,785,681,915	18
6	Alcoa	$5,798,600,778	160
7	X-Energy LLC	$5,661,511,202	17
8	General Atomics	$5,465,529,295	438
9	Cheniere Energy	$5,431,565,870	41
10	Amazon.com	$5,191,773,349	333
11	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,827,036,483	76
12	Sempra Energy	$3,835,098,001	53
13	Southern Company	$3,783,360,569	130
14	NRG Energy	$3,586,516,301	268
15	Venture Global LNG	$3,285,883,566	6
16	NextEra Energy	$3,003,823,754	117
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,836,366,619	116
18	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
19	Stellantis	$2,800,442,867	230
20	Volkswagen	$2,740,983,143	222
21	General Electric	$2,529,193,561	1,668
22	Nucor	$2,514,358,340	158
23	Walt Disney	$2,421,304,588	248
24	Brookfield Asset Management	$2,339,430,278	304
25	Toyota	$2,303,826,689	199
26	Iberdrola	$2,285,768,043	112
27	Summit Power	$2,240,568,236	8
28	Shell PLC	$2,184,517,527	141
29	Oracle	$2,167,890,528	88
30	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
31	Nike	$2,104,917,829	138
32	Hyundai Motor	$2,072,957,848	27
33	SCS Energy	$1,927,236,683	10
34	Archer Daniels Midland	$1,920,305,787	1,099
35	Exxon Mobil	$1,891,153,489	207
36	NuScale Power	$1,880,780,589	34
37	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,859,775,471	1,158
38	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	87
39	Alphabet Inc.	$1,832,565,977	116
40	Paramount Global	$1,751,801,882	317
41	Apple Inc.	$1,750,043,420	36
42	Comcast	$1,722,467,426	376
43	JPMorgan Chase	$1,663,890,873	1,129
44	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,654,401,303	137
45	Energy Transfer	$1,634,074,422	106
46	Samsung	$1,586,310,806	70
47	PG&E Corp.	$1,568,027,901	27
48	IBM Corp.	$1,562,738,626	387
49	SkyWest	$1,550,492,958	683
50	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$1,532,854,012	3
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	Panasonic	$1,385,969,341	61
53	Raytheon Technologies	$1,322,899,721	952
54	Duke Energy	$1,318,084,164	69
55	Lockheed Martin	$1,302,847,415	337
56	Corning Inc.	$1,272,628,059	395
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,266,804,354	266
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,243,857,336	32
61	Microsoft	$1,153,690,869	103
62	Jefferies Financial Group	$1,120,662,497	18
63	Meta Platforms Inc.	$1,105,098,844	53
64	Dow Inc.	$1,091,152,544	686
65	Abengoa	$1,082,660,583	63
66	SK Holdings	$1,081,550,283	9
67	LG	$1,055,690,737	103
68	Valero Energy	$1,054,520,860	199
69	Exelon	$1,040,601,369	98
70	AES Corp.	$1,010,194,632	132
71	CF Industries	$982,271,715	129
72	Pyramid Companies	$966,050,097	91
73	EDF-Electricite de France	$940,247,983	65
74	Texas Instruments	$940,071,436	60
75	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
76	Air Products & Chemicals	$897,651,105	248
77	Delta Air Lines	$876,412,623	14
78	Centene	$875,064,432	54
79	Bayer	$849,175,809	202
80	Honda	$846,026,154	91
81	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	83
82	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$826,062,285	104
83	SunEdison	$812,753,318	119
84	Apollo Global Management	$804,565,970	471
85	Goldman Sachs	$801,573,386	255
86	E.ON	$782,609,880	38
87	Wolfspeed Inc.	$773,681,732	88
88	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
89	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
90	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$725,632,525	206
91	Gotion	$715,000,000	1
92	American Electric Power	$699,673,821	92
93	Bank of America	$698,760,073	919
94	Johnson Controls	$691,180,720	144
95	Related Companies	$687,200,000	1
96	Caithness Energy	$670,379,738	28
97	Hyannis Air Service Inc.	$667,928,778	296
98	Koch Industries	$662,557,530	486
99	Sagamore Development	$660,000,000	1

Capitalists will by necessity, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence, adopt socialism. I don't have to make you do anything, the circumstances will force you to do it.

Advanced Automation = The end of capitalism, the beginning of the socialist age.



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Capitalism is a complete failure, relying on socialism to bail it out every seven to twelve years.

Communism was non-stop subsidies and socialism. 24/7/365.

Why weren't they able to defeat an economy that only needed socialism
every 7-12 years?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's where Todds in the USSR went, especially when they would burn fields, destroy equipment, murder socialist farmers, teachers..etc.

Awww......not everyone loved your worker's paradise.
Dig another mass grave. Was there really an enemy of the
proletariat hiding behind every tree?

 

[Red Front]

Awww......not everyone loved your worker's paradise.
Dig another mass grave. Was there really an enemy of the
proletariat hiding behind every tree?

Todd and his silly, irrelevant exaggerations. The gulag was for people like you so why should anyone mourn? Good riddance.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Todd and his silly, irrelevant exaggerations. The gulag was for people like you so why should anyone mourn? Good riddance.

Exactly.
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic
Besides, they said something bad about Stalin.

 

[Red Front]

Capitalism is a complete failure, relying on socialism to bail it out every seven to twelve years.
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Communism was non-stop subsidies and socialism. 24/7/365.

Why weren't they able to defeat an economy that only needed socialism
every 7-12 years?

"Any economy"? The USSR became the second largest economy in the world by 1970, despite all of the wars it had to fight to survive in its short life. You deny that, but most of scholarship agrees with those figures. Even if it didn't become the second largest economy in the world, it was still a greater producer of many capitalist-run countries, so your claim is absurd.

It wasn't "subsidies", because the assets of the USSR were comprised of the productive capacity and output of the Soviet worker. There wasn't much room for worker-owned production or a government under the authority of worker-councils (soviets), due to the USSR being in a state of war against powerful capitalist powers, that had more of a 120 year head start in industrialization. In view of the circumstances the USSR's accomplishments were impressive, despite Todd's disingenuous, cynical refusal to recognize them. What enrages Todd is that he sees the writing on the wall for capitalism, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence technology. Without wage-labor capitalism crumbles and is replaced with socialism.

In the end socialists win, capitalists lose.

Todd hates this:

 

[Mac-7]

How do you define communism?

I define communism by the countries that have adopted marxism as their system of government starting with the Soviet Union in 1917

And all efforts have been colossal failures

I understand that you think everyone so far has failed because they just did not have the smarts of modern libs

If so you are free to give it your best shot

But not in America

 

[Red Front]

I define communism by the countries that have adopted marxism as their system of government starting with the Soviet Union in 1917

And all efforts have been colossal failures

I understand that you think everyone so far has failed because they just did not have the smarts of modern libs

If so you are free to give it your best shot

But not in America

Notice how Mac completely ignores every point I made in my last responses to him. Mac clearly doesn't know what high-communism is, confusing it with socialism. The USSR was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Do you see the word "communist" there anywhere? Nope. It was socialist, which is on the long path to communism, but not communism itself, which is a stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money. That was certainly not the USSR.

Every country that has adopted Marxist-socialism and is openly identifying itself as such, has been invaded by the United States and its allies, including suffering the added insult of being economically embargoed. So your argument about Marxist-socialism being a failure is absurd. Right now, Socialists have the majority of seats in the German Bundestag, likewise in Portugal, Spain and several other European nations. Socialists comprise a significant % of several European governments. More, following your American right-wing metric of who is and isn't a "commie", all of Western Europe is COMMIE. How about that? Cope.

 

[Mac-7]

Notice how Mac completely ignores every point I made in my last responses to him. Mac clearly doesn't know what high-communism is, confusing it with socialism. The USSR was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Do you see the word "communist" there anywhere? Nope. It was socialist, which is on the long path to communism, but not communism itself, which is a stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money. That was certainly not the USSR.

Every country that has adopted Marxist-socialism and is openly identifying itself as such, has been invaded by the United States and its allies, including suffering the added insult of being economically embargoed. So your argument about Marxist-socialism being a failure is absurd. Right now, Socialists have the majority of seats in the German Bundestag, likewise in Portugal, Spain and several other European nations. Socialists comprise a significant % of several European governments. More, following your American right-wing metric of who is and isn't a "commie", all of Western Europe is COMMIE. How about that? Cope.

The soviets called themselves communists

I refer back to my last post

You think modern marxists are in some way more capable than all the marxists who came before you, but I will believe that when I see it

Which will never happen

Just take your game somewhere else not in America

 

[Red Front]

Exactly.
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic
Besides, they said something bad about Stalin.

Not just saying anything bad, but committing acts of terrorism, sabotage, murdering socialists, fighting alongside foreign invaders..etc. Class warfare is bloody. Todd doesn't like that, but that's reality nonetheless. Todd can say whatever he wants, but as soon as you start taking actions against socialists, you're fair game. You can whine all you want about what occurred in Soviet Russia 100 years ago, I and all of my comrades don't give a rats ass.

 

[Red Front]

The soviets called themselves communists

I refer back to my last post

You think modern marxists are in some way more capable than all the marxists who came before you, but I will believe that when I see it

Which will never happen

Just take your game somewhere else not in America

I already explained to Mac in a previous post, why far-left socialists like me call ourselves communists. He just ignored everything that was explained to him. We identify with the objective of socialism, which is high-communism. A stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money.

It's right here in America and in the not too distant future it's going to go 100% socialist. New flag and everything:

 

[Mac-7]

It's right here in America and in the not too distant future it's going to go 100% socialist. New flag and everything:

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I dont think so

 

[Red Front]

I dont think so

Mac doesn't think, but nonetheless, advanced automation and artificial intelligence makes socialism inevitable. He's just in denial, suffering from a bad case of cognitive dissonance.

 

[Mac-7]

Mac doesn't think, but nonetheless, advanced automation and artificial intelligence makes socialism inevitable. He's just in denial, suffering from a bad case of cognitive dissonance.

Marxists already live in the most rewarding economic system in history but simply dont know it

Dont hold your breath waiting for Big Brother to fulfill all your needs and wants without any effort from you

 

[Red Front]

Marxists already live in the most rewarding economic system in history but simply dont know it

Dont hold your breath waiting for Big Brother to fulfill all your needs and wants without any effort from you

You shouldn't be a parasite, relying on the labor of your employees to generate an income. I agree with you on that one. Capitalists are a bunch of leeches, living off of other people's labor. The US economy relies on plenty of exploitation, warmongering, theft, fraud, cheap foreign labor, captive markets, the Wall Street casino. It's all going to crumble soon thanks to advanced automation and artificial intelligence. Waged jobs are going the way of the dodo, along with capitalism. Are you ready to become a socialist? It's the future of our economy.

 

[Mac-7]

You shouldn't be a parasite, relying on the labor of your employees to generate an income.

Capitalists are the essential ingredients

Without them there are no jobs for workers to fill