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Dow drops 653 pts in 1/2 day - Trump blames (of course) somebody else....

Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
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Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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The stock market is going down because interest rates are rising and the Fed is reducing the size of its balance sheet.

Trump's tariffs and his idiotic bleatings about Powell are adding to it, but Trump isn't the primary cause of the decline.

You are mostly correct. The Trump haters here will never accept that.
Yes the market loves the uncertainty trump brings to our nation

Idiot.

the market loved what he brought. that's why it went up sharply as soon as he was elected.

The market loved the idea of Trump, that is why went up sharply as soon as he was elected. And it stayed up the first year when he spent all his time golfing and holding pep rallies. But then he got bored and started to make economic decisions, and the market has been down ever since.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
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Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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You are a left wing nut, and therefor stupid as hell. then why explain anything to you? I don't know except I have time and someone who thinks might read this.

The dive in the market is part correction and part due to the Fed and raising interest rates. Now, if you read this and believe it, congratulations, you are a little bit smarter that you were seconds ago. If you stick to your left wing stupidity and don't believe it well, I can't help you. Either way, bye.
When do you raise them then? When the market goes down?? The raise is protection if trumps economy goes to hell Then they can lower

Did you actually read my post?

Where did I say it was a bad thing? Raising the rates helps protect against inflation. It needs to be done. I don't get upset. I look at where my 401k was when 0bama the Idiot was in the WH and where it is now. I'm pretty happy about that.

There is no way that as an investor, you could possibly be happy with an entire lost year with no gains at all. Pure bullshit spin.

As an investor, I'm in it for the long term and a loss in a day means nothing to me, and neither does a loss in the DJIA for the year. My 401k has jumped significantly since Trump got elected. You haters want to deny that and I can't stop you but it is you who is the idiot and you who is the liar. It's based on your hatred of Trump and willingness to say anything no matter how stupid, just to bash him. Unless of course you really are stupid enough to not know how a 401k could out-perform the DOW. I wouldn't be surprised if you were though, so there's that.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
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Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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You are a left wing nut, and therefor stupid as hell. then why explain anything to you? I don't know except I have time and someone who thinks might read this.

The dive in the market is part correction and part due to the Fed and raising interest rates. Now, if you read this and believe it, congratulations, you are a little bit smarter that you were seconds ago. If you stick to your left wing stupidity and don't believe it well, I can't help you. Either way, bye.
When do you raise them then? When the market goes down?? The raise is protection if trumps economy goes to hell Then they can lower

Did you actually read my post?

Where did I say it was a bad thing? Raising the rates helps protect against inflation. It needs to be done. I don't get upset. I look at where my 401k was when 0bama the Idiot was in the WH and where it is now. I'm pretty happy about that.

There is no way that as an investor, you could possibly be happy with an entire lost year with no gains at all. Pure bullshit spin.

As an investor, I'm in it for the long term and a loss in a day means nothing to me, and neither does a loss in the DJIA for the year. My 401k has jumped significantly since Trump got elected. You haters want to deny that and I can't stop you but it is you who is the idiot and you who is the liar. It's based on your hatred of Trump and willingness to say anything no matter how stupid, just to bash him. Unless of course you really are stupid enough to not know how a 401k could out-perform the DOW. I wouldn't be surprised if you were though, so there's that.

Sure, dope. Take that load and swallow every drop.
There is no spin that makes a lost year good in any way. Long term or otherwise.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
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Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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You butt hurt liberals never take responsibility for your sorry ass actions. Deny, deny, deny, then you fucking wonder why the shit is going to crap...


Huh?
I just posted three things that TRUMP did, you silly asshole.
No, I won't take responsibility for his sorry ass actions.
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Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
.
.
Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
.
.

You are a left wing nut, and therefor stupid as hell. then why explain anything to you? I don't know except I have time and someone who thinks might read this.

The dive in the market is part correction and part due to the Fed and raising interest rates. Now, if you read this and believe it, congratulations, you are a little bit smarter that you were seconds ago. If you stick to your left wing stupidity and don't believe it well, I can't help you. Either way, bye.
When do you raise them then? When the market goes down?? The raise is protection if trumps economy goes to hell Then they can lower

Did you actually read my post?

Where did I say it was a bad thing? Raising the rates helps protect against inflation. It needs to be done. I don't get upset. I look at where my 401k was when 0bama the Idiot was in the WH and where it is now. I'm pretty happy about that.

There is no way that as an investor, you could possibly be happy with an entire lost year with no gains at all. Pure bullshit spin.

As an investor, I'm in it for the long term and a loss in a day means nothing to me, and neither does a loss in the DJIA for the year. My 401k has jumped significantly since Trump got elected. You haters want to deny that and I can't stop you but it is you who is the idiot and you who is the liar. It's based on your hatred of Trump and willingness to say anything no matter how stupid, just to bash him. Unless of course you really are stupid enough to not know how a 401k could out-perform the DOW. I wouldn't be surprised if you were though, so there's that.

Trump is going to make your 401K worthless, just like he did his casinos and his foundation, and Trump University. Bet on it.
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from a post by mustang
There's a lot of things you've left out. How about Trump dumping the Iran deal, and the mess that's caused? Then there's Trump decision to withdraw from the INF Treaty with Russia which could create a new arms race. Let's not forget Trump withdrew from the TPP which essentially ceded US leadership in an Asian trade pact.

Where am I going, you might ask. Well, Trump's 'America First' sloganeering is little more than a cover for America giving up it's leadership role in the world which has served to make us an economic powerhouse even as we've made the post WWII developed world safe from the European wars of the past. That has led to unprecedented peace and prosperity as the developed nations have all benefited mightily from free trade and economic growth.

That's bad enough in and of itself, but Trump outdid himself last week as he unilaterally (and without warning or consultation with anyone in our gov't, the military, or our allies) decided to withdraw all 2,000 US troops from Syria thereby singlehandedly assuring that the Kurds, our staunch allies, will be slaughtered by the Turks. That's a betrayal that's almost impossible to fathom coming from a president who, almost two years into office, has YET to visit the troops in the field which presidents of both political parties have traditionally have done as a necessary duty of the commander-in-chief. Trump just goes golfing and to Mar-a-Lago.

Why anyone thinks that Trump cares about anyone or anything other than himself is a mystery to me because the man just exudes selfishness in everything he does. That's the only think that mystifies me. Why in God's name do rural white voters think that he gives a tinker's damn about them when he'd been a city dweller all his life and has looked down on anyone who wasn't urban and affluent. I keep waiting for those people to wake up, and it hasn't happened yet. I don't know what it's going to take. Maybe Trump will have to have a 'Lonesome' Rhodes moment where his true views are up for all to see. Perhaps his former lawyer, Michael Cohen has one (or more) recordings of Trump spouting off.
 
I hope the god that the government never recovers from what is happening and all the failed government get a permanent furlough, that the Democrats could of avoided by putting a measly ole 5 billion in the budget for the wall, that the US people want. But instead the Democrats want illegals to be here, they want more Radical Muslims from the middle east here, and like Obama did with Mattis, fired someone who follows the Democrats more than the people.
American people? Voted overwhelmingly anti trump and the GOP in last elections.
Then how did the GOP gain in the Senate?
Looool can someone explain to this guy please.
I understand it completely. Democrat candidate gets 20 million votes over his opponent in the House. Republican candidate gets only 2000 votes over his opponent in the Senate. Therefore, according to your warped thinking the American people are voting overwhelmingly for democrats. Your point is a meaningless one. The real point is that our founders devised a beautiful system of checks and balances. You also forget that the Senate is where ALL judges are confirmed. Good luck with that when Ginsberg falls over into her soup.
The founders were short sighted, democracy is the rule of the majority...not being dragged by a lunatic regressive 26% of the filth that live mostly in shithole areas in the US. It's gonna be 2019 and you still wanna be ruled by a law that dates 300 years ago?
Our founders didn't create a democracy with majority rule. They created a Constitutional Republic. Idiot. Yes, I want to keep my Constitutional rights because they protect me and other good decent citizens from ignorant hateful trash like you.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
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Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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Curious.

When the Dow was dropping like this 10 years ago, wasn't Obama blaming his predecessor and everything from here to Alpha Centauri?
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
.
.
Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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Curious.

When the Dow was dropping like this 10 years ago, wasn't Obama blaming his predecessor and everything from here to Alpha Centauri?
Obama wasn't in office ten years ago and
the DOW didn't drop like this ten years ago.

There was the worst recession since the depression ten years ago, fool.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
.
.
Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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.

Curious.

When the Dow was dropping like this 10 years ago, wasn't Obama blaming his predecessor and everything from here to Alpha Centauri?
Obama wasn't in office ten years ago and
the DOW didn't drop like this ten years ago.

There was the worst recession since the depression ten years ago, fool.

Uh, were you typing and reading at the same time? Isn't that a bit much for you?

Of course, in December 2008, Bush was still president, but just little over a month later, Obama was inaugurated. Essentially semantics.

On May 6, 2010 (maybe 8 years ago), the biggest intraday drop in the Dow's history (up to that point) occurred. It fell 998 points.

On August 24, 2015, three years ago, the Dow dropped 1,089 points. That was also the biggest intraday point drop in the Dow's history until this past February. Two historic drops in one presidency (and yes, I am quite well aware of the drops in Trump's presidency, so let's not get started on that).

And what were you far left liberal loons doing? Blaming anyone and anything but Obama and/or his fiscal policies.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
.
.
Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
.
.

Curious.

When the Dow was dropping like this 10 years ago, wasn't Obama blaming his predecessor and everything from here to Alpha Centauri?
Obama wasn't in office ten years ago and
the DOW didn't drop like this ten years ago.

There was the worst recession since the depression ten years ago, fool.

Uh, were you typing and reading at the same time? Isn't that a bit much for you?

Of course, in December 2008, Bush was still president, but just little over a month later, Obama was inaugurated. Essentially semantics.

On May 6, 2010 (maybe 8 years ago), the biggest intraday drop in the Dow's history (up to that point) occurred. It fell 998 points.

On August 24, 2015, three years ago, the Dow dropped 1,089 points. That was also the biggest intraday point drop in the Dow's history until this past February. Two historic drops in one presidency (and yes, I am quite well aware of the drops in Trump's presidency, so let's not get started on that).

And what were you far left liberal loons doing? Blaming anyone and anything but Obama and/or his fiscal policies.

Nothing you've posted even comes close to what's happening now. Not by any measure.

The DOW has lost all gains made this year.
Show us one year where the same happened under Obama.
 
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American people? Voted overwhelmingly anti trump and the GOP in last elections.
Then how did the GOP gain in the Senate?
Looool can someone explain to this guy please.
I understand it completely. Democrat candidate gets 20 million votes over his opponent in the House. Republican candidate gets only 2000 votes over his opponent in the Senate. Therefore, according to your warped thinking the American people are voting overwhelmingly for democrats. Your point is a meaningless one. The real point is that our founders devised a beautiful system of checks and balances. You also forget that the Senate is where ALL judges are confirmed. Good luck with that when Ginsberg falls over into her soup.
The founders were short sighted, democracy is the rule of the majority...not being dragged by a lunatic regressive 26% of the filth that live mostly in shithole areas in the US. It's gonna be 2019 and you still wanna be ruled by a law that dates 300 years ago?

This is why we need to keep foreign piece of shits out of our country....They hate the U.S. Constitution and the dynamics which built the greatest nation on the planet...Take your raghead ass back to where you came from.....PLEASE!
Jesus and mary wore rags , and you are from Europe...your point ?
 
You turds still don't get this, and if you are bright enough to understand it...and still deny it....you fuckers are born Socialists!
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You fall for a lie while saying others don’t understand it??

LOLOL

The rate was raised twice under Obama; not zero times as you falsely assert.
 
You turds still don't get this, and if you are bright enough to understand it...and still deny it....you fuckers are born Socialists!
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Dude, c'mon.

That's silly.
Dude, come on, if you are serious, you are SERIOUSLY DERANGED!.... wasn't the Obomanation taking credit for the economy....need a link or 10?
Nope, Obama did not take credit for the economy under Trump. It’s not Obama’s fault the right is comprised mostly of brain-dead deplorables who can’t understand English. What Obama actually said, to the rightwing cultists who claimed the good economy started when Trump became president, was that the good economy actually started on his watch.
 
LOLOL

Dumbfuck, the drop in the market started a month before the election. But what did actually happen in early October was closing the books on Trump’s first disaster of a budget, culminating in a staggering $1.3 trillion deficit.
 
Duh Donald blaming the Fed Reserve and wants to deny:

1. HIS government shutdown
2. Erratic, out of nowhere Middle East policy change and
3. Firing of an admired and venerable former Marine General, Jim Mattis.

Biggest drop in the stock market since

He's the biggest fuck up to enter the White House since Harding.
.
.
Dow Drops Below 22K, Stocks Trade Lower as Wall Street Can't Shake Steep Slide
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.

Curious.

When the Dow was dropping like this 10 years ago, wasn't Obama blaming his predecessor and everything from here to Alpha Centauri?

Curious...

Did Obama say this when it rebounded and rose 149% during his 8 years?

"But the reason our stock market is so successful is because of me. I've always been great with money, I've always been great with jobs, that's what I do. And I've done it well, I've done it really well, much better than people understand and they understand I've done well. "

If he's the reason it went up, he is the reason it went down.
 
BTW - The New York Fed's Nowcast has the GDP growth rate prediction for Q4 2018 at only 2.48%. And the Q1 2019 at only 2.1% (GDPNow not much better at 2.7% for Q4 2018).

Nowcasting Report - FEDERAL RESERVE BANK of NEW YORK
GDPNow - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

Looks like the temporary tax cut boom is over.

Unfortunately...the deficit is still here with FY2019 deficit running at a pro-rated $1.8 trillion so far (early days though).

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts.pdf


Equities collapsing, GDP growth slowing, trade deficit rising and the fiscal deficit skyrocketing.

Winning?
 
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