Early M.S.M. 2016 Polls.Hillary Wins?Really?, Did They Poll In Only Very Blue States?

[rightwinger]

Yea......older women look old

If Hillary were an emerging candidate tryin to get recognition, it may come into play. But Hillary would not have been elected on her looks ten years ago. She wins because she is Hillary

You might very well be right, just my opinion. Hillary is very intelligent and even more savvy. However, she has made several major on-camera blunders in the past couple years - and that is very much unlike her. These kind of slips in not normal for her, I believe that is because she is just flat out tired.

This. I don’t think she is going to run and it is not because she can’t but I dint think she wants to anymore.

She seems to be laying the groundwork and this is her last chance

All signs point to a Hillary campaign

 

[NightFox]

I think 4 years ago - yes. But at the same time...just my opinion...Hillary looks like hell. She has aged like 15 years in the past 6 years. Just take a look at a 2008 photo of her, and a current one - WOW.

Again just a guess but I'm thinking old age doesn't trump the massive ego of somebody that thinks she has all the answers to every real and imagined "problem" under the sun.

What President doesn't have a massive ego?

The ones that won't run for the Presidency, you know those men & women that would actually make worthwhile ones, can't blame 'em either, our system is so upside down and corrupt that it forces the dregs to the top and the cream right out of the barrel.

 

[rightwinger]

Again just a guess but I'm thinking old age doesn't trump the massive ego of somebody that thinks she has all the answers to every real and imagined "problem" under the sun.

What President doesn't have a massive ego?

The ones that won't run for the Presidency, you know those men & women that would actually make worthwhile ones, can't blame 'em either, our system is so upside down and corrupt that it forces the dregs to the top and the cream right out of the barrel.

Bullshit fantasy

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If the Rs trot out another mccain they'll get beat.

 

[Sallow]

It's only 2013 and the MSM already has Hillary beating everyone? Did anyone in the media recall how close the 2012 election was? And how many people are they polling? 1000? 2000? out of 150 Million potential voters?
Why not just take polls in states like Colorado, Florida and Ohio for the time being? I am pretty sure Rand Paul would do well in all of them!
And now they want to do "Hillary Clinton Specials" on PMS-NBC/CNN? this is pathetic, being Hillary really has no accomplishments, just like Anthony Weiner !!!!

She wins easily against all Republicans except Christie. And with Christie, at this point in time shes got a comfortable lead.

And for you to say she's got no accomplishments really puts on display that you don't have a clue as to what accomplishments in terms of service to the state really are..

Good one.

 

[NightFox]

What President doesn't have a massive ego?

The ones that won't run for the Presidency, you know those men & women that would actually make worthwhile ones, can't blame 'em either, our system is so upside down and corrupt that it forces the dregs to the top and the cream right out of the barrel.

Bullshit fantasy

Wake up and smell the coffee my friend, our political system is nothing more than a gigantic, closed-culture corporation where the road to promotion isn't paved by positive results and real world experience, it's paved by copious amounts of boot licking and honing ones skills at (to borrow a phrase from Amelia) "speechifying". The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can add some objectivity to your analysis and stop trying to figure out how to make up excuses for 'em simply because they have the right letter behind their name.

What are President Obama's qualifications other than his political connections and the ability to give good speech? what were George W. Bush's other than his political connections and the fact that he was not Al Gore? Are these two representative of our best and brightest? I'd be willing to bet that there are people on this message board whose resumes would blow these two guys right out of the water.

I can handle a man or woman in the White House that I have disagreements with on a issue/philosophical level what makes me sick to my stomach is dishonest and incompetent political creatures with resumes so thin they should be working a cubicle at Inetech next to Milton.

 

[candycorn]

In this thread we have learned that:

Rand Paul is a serious Presidential candidate.
Eric Holder is going to run for President.
The electorate is stupid and therefore a Democrat will win in 2016.
Obama defeated Hillary in 2008 with "chicanery".
Hillary Clinton is special among Presidential hopefuls because she lusts for power.
Hillary Clinton looks like hell and appears too old to become President.

Great thread.

Last month I learned that the North started the civil war, the north fired first, that the South was just defending itself when it invaded Pennsylvania, and the government that has something like 11,000,000 employees doesn't create jobs.

The republican/conservative view of events is comical if nothing else.

And your signature is a clear indicator of your level of knowledge...and that is not a good thing.

I have sigs and av's turned off so you'll have to inform me on what you see. Or not. It couldn't matter less.

 

[candycorn]

What President doesn't have a massive ego?

The ones that won't run for the Presidency, you know those men & women that would actually make worthwhile ones, can't blame 'em either, our system is so upside down and corrupt that it forces the dregs to the top and the cream right out of the barrel.

Bullshit fantasy

It's kind of the hybrid Tag Romney gambit of his father "not really wanting" the Presidency after he got his ass kicked.

Some of The right wing guys here are delusional at this point.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

didn't the left beat up on McCain for being "Too Old" to be President? and how old is Hillary?

 

[Sallow]

In this thread we have learned that:

Rand Paul is a serious Presidential candidate.
Eric Holder is going to run for President.
The electorate is stupid and therefore a Democrat will win in 2016.
Obama defeated Hillary in 2008 with "chicanery".
Hillary Clinton is special among Presidential hopefuls because she lusts for power.
Hillary Clinton looks like hell and appears too old to become President.

Great thread.

Last month I learned that the North started the civil war, the north fired first, that the South was just defending itself when it invaded Pennsylvania, and the government that has something like 11,000,000 employees doesn't create jobs.

The republican/conservative view of events is comical if nothing else.

Here's something.

Rand Paul called New Jersey a "gimme" state..even though it gets 77 cents for every dollar it gives to the fed, meaning -.33 gimmie.

On the other hand Rand Paul's state of Kentucky gets back like a 1.61 for every dollar it gives to the fed, mean +.61 gimmie.

Christie let him have it with both barrels on that one..and Rand Paul was like "::Sniffle:: I guess Christie wants us to close our 2 military bases ::Sniffle::"

Guess Rand Paul, don't know New Jersey has 7 military bases.

And he's wanting the Presidency?

 

[aaronleland]

I doubt she runs.
And if she does, Benghazi might be a plus for her if the Republicans overplay it...which they would.
Having said that, a Democrat will probably win..I would easily bet $5000 on it. Why? Because not one Democrat out there thinks the economy is Obama's fault....not one. So 100% of Democrats will vote for their person. The economy will still be as bad as it is now, and the Republicans will get all of the blame.

Aside from generalizing ALL Democrats, I agree. The Republicans only have themselves to blame though. For the past two election cycles they have allowed Democrats to control the message, while they are forced to play defense. Overplaying Benghazi would only solidify that. A lot of Americans gave Benghazi a collective "yawn" days after the event. Thinking it will win you an election four years afterwards would reek of desperation.

 

[rightwinger]

If the Rs trot out another mccain they'll get beat.

One on one.....who can realistically beat Hillary?

Name names

 

[rightwinger]

didn't the left beat up on McCain for being "Too Old" to be President? and how old is Hillary?

Did they?

Who?

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

well being Hillary is pushing 75/76, I will support her so long as her running mate is a vital, healthy 50 yr old candidate,,,like Chris Christie !!!!

 

[Political Junky]

It's only 2013 and the MSM already has Hillary beating everyone? Did anyone in the media recall how close the 2012 election was? And how many people are they polling? 1000? 2000? out of 150 Million potential voters?
Why not just take polls in states like Colorado, Florida and Ohio for the time being? I am pretty sure Rand Paul would do well in all of them!
And now they want to do "Hillary Clinton Specials" on PMS-NBC/CNN? this is pathetic, being Hillary really has no accomplishments, just like Anthony Weiner !!!!

McCain speaks well of Hillary.

 

[rightwinger]

Right now, Hillary is the one to beat

Yes, she will run and unless Republicans get their shit together quickly, they will once again lose

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's only 2013 and the MSM already has Hillary beating everyone? Did anyone in the media recall how close the 2012 election was? And how many people are they polling? 1000? 2000? out of 150 Million potential voters?
Why not just take polls in states like Colorado, Florida and Ohio for the time being? I am pretty sure Rand Paul would do well in all of them!
And now they want to do "Hillary Clinton Specials" on PMS-NBC/CNN? this is pathetic, being Hillary really has no accomplishments, just like Anthony Weiner !!!!

McCain speaks well of Hillary.

McCain would make a good VP for Hilly

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

What we need to worry about come 2016, are the debates. at 69, will Hillary be able to debate as if she was 35? maybe she will have her coffee/cappachino and medications on her podium.

 

[rightwinger]

What we need to worry about come 2016, are the debates. at 69, will Hillary be able to debate as if she was 35? maybe she will have her coffee/cappachino and medications on her podium.

69 is not that old. Reagan did pretty well in the debates

An advantage is that she gets to debate a Republican

 

[JakeStarkey]

If the Rs trot out another mccain they'll get beat.

He was the best at the time, as was Romney.

We run nutters from the far right the American public will crack it like a hammer.