Eisenhower's Times

[PoliticalChic]

He was before my time ... how was Eisenhower on the economy?

OMG!

If I looked like you, I wouldn't say 'hi,' ....I'd say 'boo!'

 

[Faun]

He was before my time ... how was Eisenhower on the economy?

OMG!

If I looked like you, I wouldn't say 'hi,' ....I'd say 'boo!'

The economy was that bad, was it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

He was before my time ... how was Eisenhower on the economy?

OMG!

If I looked like you, I wouldn't say 'hi,' ....I'd say 'boo!'

The economy was that bad, was it?

.......so ugly when you walk into a bank, they turn the cameras off!

 

[Faun]

OMG!

If I looked like you, I wouldn't say 'hi,' ....I'd say 'boo!'

The economy was that bad, was it?

.......so ugly when you walk into a bank, they turn the cameras off!

Seems the others were right when they said you're nothing but a bot with auto responses. C'est la vie. I shall try not to make the mistake of attempting to engage you again.

Btw, do you have any idea how stupid it is to insult someone's looks when you have no idea whatsoever what they look like? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I full expect your autobot response to be another lame insult based on your own ignorance.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The economy was that bad, was it?

.......so ugly when you walk into a bank, they turn the cameras off!

Seems the others were right when they said you're nothing but a bot with auto responses. C'est la vie. I shall try not to make the mistake of attempting to engage you again.

Btw, do you have any idea how stupid it is to insult someone's looks when you have no idea whatsoever what they look like? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I full expect your autobot response to be another lame insult based on your own ignorance.

Great.....


Hey, on your way out....any truth to the rumor that you were the cause of paper bags with chin straps?

 

[PoliticalChic]

How did President Eisenhower handle Soviet agents in his government?

4. ....about 7 months after Eisenhower's election:
A letter to Senator Jenner from William P. Rogers, Deputy Attorney General, dated July 6, 1953, disclosed that the Justice Department still had not decided whether to prosecute the notorious John P. Davies, Jr., one of the architects of the betrayal of China and Korea, for perjury. Senator McCarran (D., Nev.), then chairman of the subcommittee, first requested action by the Justice Department against Davies on September 21, 1951.
The subcommittee repeated this request on July 2, 1952, and again on June 11, 1953.

a. "... expert on China, one of the China Hands who knew China and the Far East best in the State Department.,,,,Davies also saw the Communists as a suitable alternative to the Kuomingtang."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paton_Davies,_Jr.


And General Albert C. Wedemeyer, commander of American forces in China from 1944 to 1946, told the Senate subcommittee that Davies glorified the Chinese Communists and emphasized the "shortcomings, maladministration and unscrupulousness of the nationalist leaders" in their reports.


"...Davies glorified the Chinese Communists..."
I can't help but comment on how the same phrase applied to Franklin Roosevelt.





As far as dealing with communist influence in government....
...the Eisenhower administration pretty much picked up where Roosevelt and Truman ended....



Chesly Manly's "The Twenty Year Revolution."
BTW....it can be read on line.

 

[JakeStarkey]

This false assertion "For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets" topples the OP.

Let's move on.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This false assertion "For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets" topples the OP.

Let's move on.

Of course, the facts prove otherwise.


They also indicate strongly that you are a moron.

 

[guno]

This false assertion "For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets" topples the OP.

Let's move on.

She knows nothing about America or American history.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This false assertion "For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets" topples the OP.

Let's move on.

She knows nothing about America or American history.

I use the term "moron" and look who pops up.

I wasn't calling you.

 

[Camp]

Have you ever noticed how when one cannot dispute the correctness of an idea, they try to attack the one who said it.
The characteristic identifies bout the ignorant and the disingenuous.


Of course, if you believe that that was a correct course of action, you would have stopped using Arabic numerals after 9/11.



So....you agree with every single iota in the OP?

Or at least, there is nothing in the OP with which you are able to find fault?



Good to know.




As usual, I have provided astoundingly correct information.
You find it offensive...I find it truthful. I'm just more perceptive.

There is nothing challenging in my post and I offer not agreement or disagreement with you OP. The Col. was a fascinating individual. He was a giant in his era, yet mysterious and controversial.
You, as I stated, base much of your work on the works of Manly. Since bio's and information about him can not be found and don't seem to exist, it is fair to assume the name was first used as a "staff" alias at the Tribune and later as a name used by McCormick. This is speculation on my part, but Manly/McCormick views and insights certainly seem to match up pretty well.
So, who was McCormick and how did he use the Chicago Tribune?

"There is nothing challenging in my post...."



Great.



So we agree........I have a proprietary pride in veracity.

Didn't say I agreed with you. Examining the roots and foundations of your anti-American
fervor and paranoia. This Manly seems to be your hero and I'm not sure you know he was a made up character and hence could not be questioned of held accountable for his works. He appears to have been a shadow promoting a shadow agenda. Look at what he and/or the owner of the Tribune,McCormick did on Dec. 4, 1941.

F.D.R.’S WAR PLANS! (Chicago Daily Tribune-12/4/41)

The Big Leak - Rainbow Five

 

[guno]

This false assertion "For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets" topples the OP.

Let's move on.

She knows nothing about America or American history.

I use the term "moron" and look who pops up.

I wasn't calling you.

Why don't you post something you know about like squatting in rice paddy's and eating dog

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is nothing challenging in my post and I offer not agreement or disagreement with you OP. The Col. was a fascinating individual. He was a giant in his era, yet mysterious and controversial.
You, as I stated, base much of your work on the works of Manly. Since bio's and information about him can not be found and don't seem to exist, it is fair to assume the name was first used as a "staff" alias at the Tribune and later as a name used by McCormick. This is speculation on my part, but Manly/McCormick views and insights certainly seem to match up pretty well.
So, who was McCormick and how did he use the Chicago Tribune?

"There is nothing challenging in my post...."



Great.



So we agree........I have a proprietary pride in veracity.

Didn't say I agreed with you. Examining the roots and foundations of your anti-American
fervor and paranoia. This Manly seems to be your hero and I'm not sure you know he was a made up character and hence could not be questioned of held accountable for his works. He appears to have been a shadow promoting a shadow agenda. Look at what he and/or the owner of the Tribune,McCormick did on Dec. 4, 1941.

F.D.R.’S WAR PLANS! (Chicago Daily Tribune-12/4/41)

The Big Leak - Rainbow Five

1. "... your anti-American fervor and paranoia."

Actually, I am the pro-American in this debate.

Your slander is a 'get-even' effort on your part because I've been able to shine a spotlight on one of your idols.



2. "This Manly seems to be your hero..."

Knowledge is my hero....and, inadvertently you have verified what Manly said, as you have been unable to find any errors in his statements.



Now calm down, take a deep breath....and hold it for about 20 minutes.

 

[guno]

General Eisenhower was elected as a coda to the war, and a hope for new beginnings.
And, perhaps he lived up to both.
But he carried baggage, and a view that surprised quite a few.






1. Let's begin at the middle....and, later, head back to the war years.
Eisenhower was a product of his times, malleable as most are, and the crucible of his times was Franklin Roosevelt. For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets, and his administration was thoroughly infused with Soviet spies and sympathizers.

Based on the above, and one's natural inclinations where his career was involved....what should one expect?


a. But, unfortunately, the same pressures were exerted on large segments of the American population.
"Back in the 1930s, American liberals excused the communists of the Soviet Union as being simply “Liberals in a Hurry.”

Doug Ross spots a Timesperson visiting North Korea, retching at the horror before her and quips, “New York Times visits North Korea, unintentionally reveals the endgame of the Democrats’ unchecked authoritarian agenda.” Ed Driscoll » When ?Liberals in a Hurry? Reach the Endzone

Then, just as now.





b. Here is a view from the top:
"As Hitler marched into Poland, [Soviet agent] Whittaker Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Roosevelt’s assistant Sec’y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Roosevelt’s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself."
(Arthur Herman, "Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator," p. 60)

No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss.
Remember, FDR was Eisenhower's boss.

c. How about Truman?
President Truman denounced the Hiss investigation as a “red herring” by do-nothing Republicans (Whitaker Chambers, Witness, p. 564-74)
Felix Frankfurter and Adlai Stevenson offered to be character witnesses for Hiss.

Such were the times.....not very different from these times.








2. Eisenhower become President on January 20, 1953. Understanding the free rein communists had in the times doesn't mean that many weren't aware of the danger posed by the communists, as many are today.
On August 24, 1953, Senator Jenner's eight-member judiciary subcommittee on internal security issued a unanimous report declaring that the penetration of the United States government by the Soviet international organization "has not been fully disclosed....


Policies and programs laid down by members of this Soviet conspiracy are still in effect within our government and constitute a continuing hazard to our national security."

And...have been largely successful in subverting America....it has been "fundamentally transformed" from what the 'greatest generation' fought for.







3. The communist penetration of the government occurred in the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, but policies and programs laid down by the Soviet conspiracy were still in effect after the Eisenhower administration had been in office seven months, according to the unanimous report of eight senators...
... there were indications that the Eisenhower administration would be little more diligent than its predecessors in exposing and eliminating the Soviet conspirators still remaining in the government.

Is that what was expected from his election?







Much of the above is based on Chesly Manly's "The Twenty Year Revolution."
It should be read by those who want to understand what went wrong, and how we got to today.

So this is the party that you belong to and think is so great?

“I hate the gooks” – John McCain

"I hate the gooks" - John McCain - AMERICAblog News

 

[PoliticalChic]

She knows nothing about America or American history.

I use the term "moron" and look who pops up.

I wasn't calling you.

Why don't you post something you know about like squatting in rice paddy's and eating dog

You imbecile, I've just shown that I am a master of this subject, and none of you have dared to challenge any of the material.


Now, how about you go home and set up the slip 'n' slide so it ends in the knife drawer.

 

[longknife]

As MacArthur said, "Ike was a pretty good clerk."

If nothing else, Ike gave us the Interstate system. It was a good strategic idea at the time and still provides rapid transit of people and freight over most of the nation.

And, maybe it was due to his efforts that rail transportation suffered.

All in all, he deserved the presidency and did not do a great deal of harm.

 

[PoliticalChic]

General Eisenhower was elected as a coda to the war, and a hope for new beginnings.
And, perhaps he lived up to both.
But he carried baggage, and a view that surprised quite a few.






1. Let's begin at the middle....and, later, head back to the war years.
Eisenhower was a product of his times, malleable as most are, and the crucible of his times was Franklin Roosevelt. For whatever the reasons, Roosevelt was a devotee of Stalin and the Soviets, and his administration was thoroughly infused with Soviet spies and sympathizers.

Based on the above, and one's natural inclinations where his career was involved....what should one expect?


a. But, unfortunately, the same pressures were exerted on large segments of the American population.
"Back in the 1930s, American liberals excused the communists of the Soviet Union as being simply “Liberals in a Hurry.”

Doug Ross spots a Timesperson visiting North Korea, retching at the horror before her and quips, “New York Times visits North Korea, unintentionally reveals the endgame of the Democrats’ unchecked authoritarian agenda.” Ed Driscoll » When ?Liberals in a Hurry? Reach the Endzone

Then, just as now.





b. Here is a view from the top:
"As Hitler marched into Poland, [Soviet agent] Whittaker Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Roosevelt’s assistant Sec’y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Roosevelt’s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself."
(Arthur Herman, "Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator," p. 60)

No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss.
Remember, FDR was Eisenhower's boss.

c. How about Truman?
President Truman denounced the Hiss investigation as a “red herring” by do-nothing Republicans (Whitaker Chambers, Witness, p. 564-74)
Felix Frankfurter and Adlai Stevenson offered to be character witnesses for Hiss.

Such were the times.....not very different from these times.








2. Eisenhower become President on January 20, 1953. Understanding the free rein communists had in the times doesn't mean that many weren't aware of the danger posed by the communists, as many are today.
On August 24, 1953, Senator Jenner's eight-member judiciary subcommittee on internal security issued a unanimous report declaring that the penetration of the United States government by the Soviet international organization "has not been fully disclosed....


Policies and programs laid down by members of this Soviet conspiracy are still in effect within our government and constitute a continuing hazard to our national security."

And...have been largely successful in subverting America....it has been "fundamentally transformed" from what the 'greatest generation' fought for.







3. The communist penetration of the government occurred in the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, but policies and programs laid down by the Soviet conspiracy were still in effect after the Eisenhower administration had been in office seven months, according to the unanimous report of eight senators...
... there were indications that the Eisenhower administration would be little more diligent than its predecessors in exposing and eliminating the Soviet conspirators still remaining in the government.

Is that what was expected from his election?







Much of the above is based on Chesly Manly's "The Twenty Year Revolution."
It should be read by those who want to understand what went wrong, and how we got to today.

So this is the party that you belong to and think is so great?

“I hate the gooks” – John McCain

"I hate the gooks" - John McCain - AMERICAblog News

I love it when I force you dopes to make the posts about me because the subject is over your head.

Actually, you'd be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.


Do you know anything?

Anything?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As MacArthur said, "Ike was a pretty good clerk."

If nothing else, Ike gave us the Interstate system. It was a good strategic idea at the time and still provides rapid transit of people and freight over most of the nation.

And, maybe it was due to his efforts that rail transportation suffered.

All in all, he deserved the presidency and did not do a great deal of harm.

"...did not do a great deal of harm."
That's true.



Actually, I'd rather not change the subject.

The hostile posts in this thread have attempted to do so...but I'm going to maintain my discipline: for all of his attributes, neither as general, nor as President, did Dwight Eisenhower bring the appropriate measures against the enemies of our founding principles.


Not to the extent that Roosevelt did, but he allowed the Soviet agents to be comfortable in American government at policy levels.

 

[DriftingSand]

Hi PC. I appreciate your historical essays. Very interesting. I don't know much about Eisenhower. I do remember my dad calling him a "Communist sympathizer" when I was a little kid. I never spent the time to really find out what he meant. I've heard that little snippet of him warning of the "military-industrial complex" but that's about as far as it goes. I'm at work so I don't have time to really study your OP. I will try to pay it some time when I get home tonight. Thanks for your hard work.

 

[DriftingSand]

As MacArthur said, "Ike was a pretty good clerk."

If nothing else, Ike gave us the Interstate system. It was a good strategic idea at the time and still provides rapid transit of people and freight over most of the nation.

And, maybe it was due to his efforts that rail transportation suffered.

All in all, he deserved the presidency and did not do a great deal of harm.

That actually makes some sense. If he truly was a Communist sympathizer then perhaps he embraced some of the planks of the Communist Manifesto. Plank #6:

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks