Entire class of new nay ships unfit for combat, must run away and can't shoot effectively.

[Lewdog]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

I guess his pen and phone doesn't work for the safety of our troops.

WTF are you talking about? People told him these were good military upgrades, how the fuck is he supposed to know any different? Hell when they found out they were shit, they cut down the size of the orders. Isn't that good enough for you?

Maybe if he showed up for his morning briefings, he would know of such things. I guess golfing and vacationing are more important. Oh and listening to his buddies singing about bitches and whores he was to busy.

You don't get it do you? Numbnuts, the f-35 design was decided upon in 2001.

"In 1997, Lockheed Martin was selected as one of two companies to participate in the Joint Strike Fighter concept demonstration phase. In October 2001, the Lockheed Martin X-35 was chosen as the winner of the competition and teamed with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems to begin production."

F-35 History | F-35 Lightning II

Was Obama President in 2001?

The Zumwalt class destroyers were started in 2001. Since then they have cut the production size from 32 down to... 3.

Zumwalt-class destroyer - Wikipedia

Was Obama President in 2001?

 

[jknowgood]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

I guess his pen and phone doesn't work for the safety of our troops.

WTF are you talking about? People told him these were good military upgrades, how the fuck is he supposed to know any different? Hell when they found out they were shit, they cut down the size of the orders. Isn't that good enough for you?

Maybe if he showed up for his morning briefings, he would know of such things. I guess golfing and vacationing are more important. Oh and listening to his buddies singing about bitches and whores he was to busy.

You don't get it do you? Numbnuts, the f-35 design was decided upon in 2001.

"In 1997, Lockheed Martin was selected as one of two companies to participate in the Joint Strike Fighter concept demonstration phase. In October 2001, the Lockheed Martin X-35 was chosen as the winner of the competition and teamed with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems to begin production."

F-35 History | F-35 Lightning II

Was Obama President in 2001?

The Zumwalt class destroyers were started in 2001. Since then they have cut the production size from 32 down to... 3.

Zumwalt-class destroyer - Wikipedia

Was Obama President in 2001?

Trump isn't president yet, but he is working on these problems already. Something president Obama doesn't have time for, but he has time for golf.

 

[Camp]

The link in the OP is to a Breitbart article that grossly distorts and gives a negative spin. The LCS vessels are not deep sea designed ships. The L in LCS stands for Littoral. The word littoral has a clear definition. It means being related to the shore or coastline. There are several versions of the ship being produced. They can be minesweepers, landing craft and fill a variety of combat roles. Smaller than a frigate, they are designed to be fast and stealthy. They were purposely designed to operate in shallow waters and allow easy and fast exit from situations beyond their combat capabilities. The ship they can be compared to and help to understand their mission is the Coast Gaurd ships that get deployed all over the world to protect ports and harbors for the US Navy in times of conflict. The LCS is far more combat ready and capable than the Coast Gaurd frigates and corvettes used for multiple purposes such as search and rescue. The first ships were produced during the early part of the Bush administration in 2003.

 

[Lewdog]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

I guess his pen and phone doesn't work for the safety of our troops.

WTF are you talking about? People told him these were good military upgrades, how the fuck is he supposed to know any different? Hell when they found out they were shit, they cut down the size of the orders. Isn't that good enough for you?

Maybe if he showed up for his morning briefings, he would know of such things. I guess golfing and vacationing are more important. Oh and listening to his buddies singing about bitches and whores he was to busy.

You don't get it do you? Numbnuts, the f-35 design was decided upon in 2001.

"In 1997, Lockheed Martin was selected as one of two companies to participate in the Joint Strike Fighter concept demonstration phase. In October 2001, the Lockheed Martin X-35 was chosen as the winner of the competition and teamed with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems to begin production."

F-35 History | F-35 Lightning II

Was Obama President in 2001?

The Zumwalt class destroyers were started in 2001. Since then they have cut the production size from 32 down to... 3.

Zumwalt-class destroyer - Wikipedia

Was Obama President in 2001?

Trump isn't president yet, but he is working on these problems already. Something president Obama doesn't have time for, but he has time for golf.

Obama has been cutting these programs since he has been in office... quit being a partisan numbnuts.

 

[jknowgood]

I guess his pen and phone doesn't work for the safety of our troops.

WTF are you talking about? People told him these were good military upgrades, how the fuck is he supposed to know any different? Hell when they found out they were shit, they cut down the size of the orders. Isn't that good enough for you?

Maybe if he showed up for his morning briefings, he would know of such things. I guess golfing and vacationing are more important. Oh and listening to his buddies singing about bitches and whores he was to busy.

You don't get it do you? Numbnuts, the f-35 design was decided upon in 2001.

"In 1997, Lockheed Martin was selected as one of two companies to participate in the Joint Strike Fighter concept demonstration phase. In October 2001, the Lockheed Martin X-35 was chosen as the winner of the competition and teamed with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems to begin production."

F-35 History | F-35 Lightning II

Was Obama President in 2001?

The Zumwalt class destroyers were started in 2001. Since then they have cut the production size from 32 down to... 3.

Zumwalt-class destroyer - Wikipedia

Was Obama President in 2001?

Trump isn't president yet, but he is working on these problems already. Something president Obama doesn't have time for, but he has time for golf.

Obama has been cutting these programs since he has been in office... quit being a partisan numbnuts.

Cutting our military? Yes we agree on that, and also making it a social experiment.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

 

[Iceweasel]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

obama surrounded himself with yes men for the military and pushed social engineering as his goal. There are a lot of military experts that could be advising him. The fact that so much is wrong means he isn't listening to those voices or they've been purged out by now.

 

[Camp]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors, ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

 

[Lewdog]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

obama surrounded himself with yes men for the military and pushed social engineering as his goal. There are a lot of military experts that could be advising him. The fact that so much is wrong means he isn't listening to those voices or they've been purged out by now.

Again... the decisions to go forward with these projects were decided in 2001. Was Obama President in 2001?

 

[Iceweasel]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

obama surrounded himself with yes men for the military and pushed social engineering as his goal. There are a lot of military experts that could be advising him. The fact that so much is wrong means he isn't listening to those voices or they've been purged out by now.

Again... the decisions to go forward with these projects were decided in 2001. Was Obama President in 2001?

Boooooosh Boooooosh didit. obama is responsible for nothing. Even after eight years when a program can be properly evaluated.

You really are a special kind of stupid.

 

[Camp]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

 

[Lewdog]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

obama surrounded himself with yes men for the military and pushed social engineering as his goal. There are a lot of military experts that could be advising him. The fact that so much is wrong means he isn't listening to those voices or they've been purged out by now.

Again... the decisions to go forward with these projects were decided in 2001. Was Obama President in 2001?

Boooooosh Boooooosh didit. obama is responsible for nothing. Even after eight years when a program can be properly evaluated.

You really are a special kind of stupid.

They did evaluate the process dumbass. That's why they cut the number of pieces in all the orders. Are you fucking stupid or just not reading?

 

[Lewdog]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

It's ok and won't matter, of course is all for cutting cost and corners on the new Air Force One, he won't be the one riding around the world in it nor the one worrying about whether he will get shot down in it.

 

[Iceweasel]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

obama surrounded himself with yes men for the military and pushed social engineering as his goal. There are a lot of military experts that could be advising him. The fact that so much is wrong means he isn't listening to those voices or they've been purged out by now.

Again... the decisions to go forward with these projects were decided in 2001. Was Obama President in 2001?

Boooooosh Boooooosh didit. obama is responsible for nothing. Even after eight years when a program can be properly evaluated.

You really are a special kind of stupid.

They did evaluate the process dumbass. That's why they cut the number of pieces in all the orders. Are you fucking stupid or just not reading?

Spin spin spin. Why don't you go spin on a pole? The ships were already built, idiot. The F35 is a boondoggle, idiot. Forget the CJ career, you'd be lucky to land a janitorial gig.

 

[Iceweasel]

The ships can run away just fine. They are Democrat ships.

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

It's ok and won't matter, of course is all for cutting cost and corners on the new Air Force One, he won't be the one riding around the world in it nor the one worrying about whether he will get shot down in it.

Yes, because you expert self has determined 4 billion is the best Boeing could do. Even though the CEO said differently.

LOL. What an opinionated dummy.

 

[Lewdog]

Obama class ships

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

It's ok and won't matter, of course is all for cutting cost and corners on the new Air Force One, he won't be the one riding around the world in it nor the one worrying about whether he will get shot down in it.

Yes, because you expert self has determined 4 billion is the best Boeing could do. Even though the CEO said differently.

LOL. What an opinionated dummy.

Again, do you even have a fucking clue what goes into making those planes? How advanced the system are on that plane? Just how much in intellectual property those items are worth? GTFO... you don't have a fucking clue. There are countries in this world like Russia that would pay a shit ton of money to have those technologies, but why would Trump care? He won't be flying on those new planes.

 

[Iceweasel]

They were purposely designed that way long before Obama was even a Senator let alone President. They are basically an updated version of a Coast Guard Cutter that enables the Navy to use its own ships rather than Coast Guard ships for harbors ports, and coastal surveillance and protection.
You are falling for or simply promoting the Breitbart misinformation and spin.

Trumps wasn't even President and told Boeing the cost of AF1 was absurd so they adjusted

Easy to do Frank, Boeing just starts eliminating whistles and bells the same way a car salesman would do if you wanted a factory new car ordered. You can get a lower price, but say goodbye to a bunch of optional extras. Do you really need the back seat video drop down display or the all around heated seats?

It's ok and won't matter, of course is all for cutting cost and corners on the new Air Force One, he won't be the one riding around the world in it nor the one worrying about whether he will get shot down in it.

Yes, because you expert self has determined 4 billion is the best Boeing could do. Even though the CEO said differently.

LOL. What an opinionated dummy.

Again, do you even have a fucking clue what goes into making those planes? How advanced the system are on that plane? Just how much in intellectual property those items are worth? GTFO... you don't have a fucking clue. There are countries in this world like Russia that would pay a shit ton of money to have those technologies, but why would Trump care? He won't be flying on those new planes.

I think Boeing's CEO is a bit more up to speed, hot air is all you have.

 

[Camp]

How in the hell is Obama at fault? Does he have a degree in engineering? Has he built war ships and planes before? All he can do is take the advice of the contractors and all the people in the military that do the decision making, many of which made these decisions... A LONG time ago before he was ever President.

obama surrounded himself with yes men for the military and pushed social engineering as his goal. There are a lot of military experts that could be advising him. The fact that so much is wrong means he isn't listening to those voices or they've been purged out by now.

Again... the decisions to go forward with these projects were decided in 2001. Was Obama President in 2001?

Boooooosh Boooooosh didit. obama is responsible for nothing. Even after eight years when a program can be properly evaluated.

You really are a special kind of stupid.

You are automatically giving credence and validity to a highly spun and distorted Breitbart article and falling for the spin that the ship design and production was a bad thing and someone's "fault". New weapons and weapon systems are routinely updated with advanced technology. If the Breitbart attitude and distorted spin were accepted weapons and weapon systems that take years to develop and produce would come on line and be deployed with obsolete technological upgrades.

 

[Iceweasel]

You are automatically giving credence and validity to a highly spun and distorted Breitbart article and falling for the spin that the ship design and production was a bad thing and someone's "fault". New weapons and weapon systems are routinely updated with advanced technology. If the Breitbart attitude and distorted spin were accepted weapons and weapon systems that take years to develop and produce would come on line and be deployed with obsolete technological upgrades.

So the US can't keep up with the rest of the world? Jesus, you people are unbelievable.