Establishment Republicans give their loyalty and support to Obamacare!

johnwk

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SEE: The GOP Establishment Wants to Run on Fixing -- Not Repealing – Obamacare

”In David Jolly's campaign, he didn't say "repeal" Obamacare. He said "fix" it. But the Republicans are taking this thing to, " No, no, no, no! He said to fix it." The Republican establishment obviously has a campaign game plan involving Obamacare, and it does not include repealing it, folks. The Republican establishment apparently doesn't want to campaign on repealing it. They want to campaign on fixing it.”

What Rush Limbaugh may have missed and has been obvious to me from the very beginning is, when twenty-five Governors who asserted Obamacare was a violation of our Constitution and pledged to fight it in the Supreme Court, they were deluding their constituents and never intended to have Obamacare struck down! They exposed their hand to me when instead of going directly into the United States Supreme Court which, as our Constitution declares in crystal clear language had original jurisdiction in the matter, Attorney General Pam Bondi and twenty-four other AGs decided to run the clock for two years in lower courts created by Congress to appease and calm the people down by giving them false hope Obamacare would be struck down and the people’s inalienable right to make their own medical and health care decisions and choices would be preserved.

If we recall, the people at this point in time [when Obamacare was signed into law] were actually rising up and confronting folks in government face to face in town hall meetings across the country like never before and the birth of the Tea Party movement was born. And so, what a better way for false leaders to comfort and corral these rebellious souls who actually presented a political threat to the Establishment than to give them false hope that Obamacare would be struck down for its obvious assumptions of powers never intended by our Founding Fathers to be exercised by our federal government.

And what was the Establishment’s plan from the very beginning? It was to pass a law under which our federal government would assume a thorough regulatory control over the people’s health care decisions and choices even though it was obviously unconstitutional and then, at a later date and after it would be declared constitutional through an act of judicial tyranny, the Establishment would “fix” the most egregious and intolerable parts of Obamacare while relishing over an assumption of power not authorized by our written Constitution or the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was adopted.

And here we are today with the final stage of the Establishment’s plan being carried out with the help of Republican traitors who no longer promise to repeal a usurpation of power, but “fix it” enough so it is digestible by the people and its intended control over the people will remain in our usurpers hands.

Keep in mind we have been warned against submitting to such tyranny!

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted - is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.”___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787, H0W TO TREAT UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS OF CONGRESS


JWK

If the America People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?
 
Do you RomneyCare?

RomneyCare was after all the template for the Affordable Health Care Act.

The A.C.A. ain't going away...get used it.
 
Do you RomneyCare?

RomneyCare was after all the template for the Affordable Health Care Act.

The A.C.A. ain't going away...get used it.

Which might mean something if I lived in Massachusetts. I don't.

See, that's how the country was intended to work. Each state could do things their way and if I didn't like how Massachusetts ran their healthcare, there were 49 other states I could move to. But thanks to the courts allowing everything and anything into the Federal view via the Commerce Clause, the only option I have to escape this horrible law is to leave the US entirely.

Why even have state legislatures when DC can decide everything?
 
oh boy, it's here to stay

You all see the VA, that is going to be your health care in the future...death panels and all

but in the minds of some it's, fortunate for you all and you all should be kissing the ground Obama walks on
 
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Everyone who loves the ACA either gets subsidized or has employer paid for health care so in either case no matter how bad it is it does not effect them. In other words they should be treated for hypocrisy.

It was said from the beginning, federal programs never go away the ACA is no different. As soon as Roberts sold out it was a done deal. No matter the burden on the people 12000/year, no matter the burden on the country, and no matter how poorly it was designed it isn't going away. The only alternative is to fix it but I will be damn if I know how you fix a car that was totaled or how someone fixes the train wreck which is obamacare.
 
Everyone who loves the ACA either gets subsidized or has employer paid for health care so in either case no matter how bad it is it does not effect them. In other words they should be treated for hypocrisy.

It was said from the beginning, federal programs never go away the ACA is no different. As soon as Roberts sold out it was a done deal. No matter the burden on the people 12000/year, no matter the burden on the country, and no matter how poorly it was designed it isn't going away. The only alternative is to fix it but I will be damn if I know how you fix a car that was totaled or how someone fixes the train wreck which is obamacare.




How do we fix Obamacare? That’s easy!

The Affordable Care Act is hereby repealed and the various State Governments and people therein are to assume and exercise their rightful powers retained under the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to our Constitution which were adopted to specifically prohibit the Constitution to be construed in such a manner as to deny or disparage rights retained by the people, or those reserve to the States respectively as summarized in Federalist No. 45:

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”



JWK


The fundamental principle of constitutional construction is that effect must be given to the intent of the framers of the organic law and of the people adopting it. This is the polestar in the construction of constitutions, all other principles of construction are only rules or guides to aid in the determination of the intention of the constitution’s framers.--- numerous citations omitted__ Vol.16 American Jurisprudence, 2d Constitutional law (1992 edition), pages 418-19 - - - Par. 92. Intent of framers and adopters as controlling.
 
Do you RomneyCare?

RomneyCare was after all the template for the Affordable Health Care Act.

The A.C.A. ain't going away...get used it.

Yes, yes it was. It also needs fed bucks to continue. I guess the fed will just ... borrow that money for obamacare?

In 2005, when Romney was governor, the federal aid amounted to $550 million. As former Romney adviser John McDonough explains in his book "Inside Health Policy," the funds were crucial to laying the foundation for universal health coverage. He takes us back to 2005, when the George W. Bush administration was getting ready to end that special funding arrangement:

"In Masachusetts, $350 million is a lot of money, and the news set off alarm bells. Governor Romney reached out and formed a partnership with Senator Kennedy to scheme how to keep the extra federal dollars coming. At that moment, the state's mundane desire to retain federal dollars merged with the policy goal of universal coverage to create a new policy imperative. Romney and Kennedy proposed that Massachusetts keep receiving the extra payments and in return the state would shift the use of those dollars [to] subsidies to help lower-income individuals purchase health insurance coverage."

Ryan Lizza recounts a similar version of events in his New Yorker article on Romneycare. That state ultimately secured three years of additional Medicaid funding, $1.05 billion, which largely financed the Massachusetts expansion. Both accounts suggest that it was a special commitment from the federal government, rather than a capped budget, that spurred Massachusetts' success.

Since then, employers and individuals have chipped in to keep the universal coverage program afloat. The Blue Cross Blue Shield Foundation of Massachusetts saw spending by both of those groups increase in the year after Romneycare became law, which they attribute to rising medical costs and the insurance expansion.

Five years later, it's largely federal funding that keeps Massachusetts' universal coverage afloat. Since 2005, the state has twice renewed that federal waiver -- the one Lizza and McDonough wrote about -- to provide additional Medicaid dollars to the state.

The most recent renewal was last December 2011, when the state secured $26.75 billion in federal funds over the course of three years. It will, among other programs, continue to finance the universal coverage program.

So Massachusetts used not just federal Medicaid money but federal dollars above and beyond that Medicaid money to finance their health reforms. It is difficult to see how Romney's proposal to cut Medicaid spending and hand that reduced share over to the states would allow other states to follow Massachusetts' example. It might not even permit Massachusetts to continue following Massachusetts' example.

How Romney paid for Romneycare, with federal help

Or maybe obamacare will just impose fees to raise more money.

Fees imposed on health insurance providers by the government — expected to raise over $100 billion over 10 years — as part of Obamacare will be passed on to policyholders, health insurance executives told a House Energy and Commerce Committee on Wednesday, The New York Times reports.

Insurance Executives: Obamacare Fees Will Be Passed on to Consumers


romneycare is also scrapping its failed exchange.

RomneyCare’s pioneering health insurance exchange is headed for the scrap heap.

Bay State officials are taking steps this week to junk central parts of their dysfunctional health insurance exchange — the model for President Barack Obama’s health care law — and merge with the federal enrollment site HealthCare.gov.

Massachusetts ditches RomneyCare health exchange - POLITICO.com

(un)aca is here to stay. Oh joy.
 
Do you RomneyCare?

RomneyCare was after all the template for the Affordable Health Care Act.

The A.C.A. ain't going away...get used it.

Which might mean something if I lived in Massachusetts. I don't.

See, that's how the country was intended to work. Each state could do things their way and if I didn't like how Massachusetts ran their healthcare, there were 49 other states I could move to. But thanks to the courts allowing everything and anything into the Federal view via the Commerce Clause, the only option I have to escape this horrible law is to leave the US entirely.

Why even have state legislatures when DC can decide everything?

buh bye
 
oh boy, it's here to stay

You all see the VA, that is going to be your health care in the future...death panels and all

but in the minds of some it's, fortunate for you all and you all should be kissing the ground Obama walks on

Michelle Bachmann was talking about the only death panels, those convened by health insurance bean counters.
 
Why are you all whining.

You all knew from the beginning the mainstream GOP players knew ACA could not be stopped and would not be repealed.

The leaders had to wait out the TP, then to destroy in the primaries.

Guess what happened last Tuesday.
 
SEE: The GOP Establishment Wants to Run on Fixing -- Not Repealing – Obamacare

”In David Jolly's campaign, he didn't say "repeal" Obamacare. He said "fix" it. But the Republicans are taking this thing to, " No, no, no, no! He said to fix it." The Republican establishment obviously has a campaign game plan involving Obamacare, and it does not include repealing it, folks. The Republican establishment apparently doesn't want to campaign on repealing it. They want to campaign on fixing it.”
If you attack the establishment long enough and hard enough, they will make you a member of it.
- Art Buchwald
 

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