‘Everywhere jam-packed’: mayor of Santorini warns of overtourism crisis

[Tommy Tainant]

‘Everywhere jam-packed’: mayor of Santorini warns of overtourism crisis

Nikos Zorzos calls for urgent action to halt construction spree he says presents existential threat to Greek island

www.theguardian.com

Ive never been to Santorini but I always wanted to go. But I think I will give it a miss now. It sounds horrific.

The greeks are in a bit of a bind. They need tourists but if they have too many it destroys the very thing that people want to see.

Its not just Santorini. Venice, Prague, Amsterdm are among other spots under threat.

At least they can take action locally. It sounds like Santorini is managed by the national govt.

Maybe the world needs to find somewhere else to visit ?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

‘Everywhere jam-packed’: mayor of Santorini warns of overtourism crisis

Nikos Zorzos calls for urgent action to halt construction spree he says presents existential threat to Greek island

www.theguardian.com

Ive never been to Santorini but I always wanted to go. But I think I will give it a miss now. It sounds horrific.

The greeks are in a bit of a bind. They need tourists but if they have too many it destroys the very thing that people want to see.

Its not just Santorini. Venice, Prague, Amsterdm are among other spots under threat.

At least they can take action locally. It sounds like Santorini is managed by the national govt.

Maybe the world needs to find somewhere else to visit ?

Add Barcelona to that list Tommy:

My Barcelona is being destroyed by mass tourism – but kicking visitors out isn’t the answer

 

[jotathought]

‘Everywhere jam-packed’: mayor of Santorini warns of overtourism crisis

Nikos Zorzos calls for urgent action to halt construction spree he says presents existential threat to Greek island

www.theguardian.com

Ive never been to Santorini but I always wanted to go. But I think I will give it a miss now. It sounds horrific.

The greeks are in a bit of a bind. They need tourists but if they have too many it destroys the very thing that people want to see.

Its not just Santorini. Venice, Prague, Amsterdm are among other spots under threat.

At least they can take action locally. It sounds like Santorini is managed by the national govt.

Maybe the world needs to find somewhere else to visit ?

Greece has been in a bit of a bind since it overspent and was unable to pay its debt back. In 2023, they were still at 160.2% debt-to-GDP ratio, and they still haven't recovered from the massive overspending and mismanagement of their funds.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Add Barcelona to that list Tommy:

My Barcelona is being destroyed by mass tourism – but kicking visitors out isn’t the answer

Anywhere in Europe is at risk. I went to Porto on a £12 return flight. It was cheaper than a rail trip to London..
All of Europe is in play.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Greece has been in a bit of a bind since it overspent and was unable to pay its debt back. In 2023, they were still at 160.2% debt-to-GDP ratio, and they still haven't recovered from the massive overspending and mismanagement of their funds.

Tourism is their only earner.Same as Turkey really.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Tourism is their only earner.Same as Turkey really.

Is there still any of that Welsh holiday home burning Tom, or was that just a fad that died off years ago? I kind of remember it being on the news when I was a teen.

 

[jotathought]

Tourism is their only earner.Same as Turkey really.

Reducing free stuff to their citizens would be main "earner."

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Is there still any of that Welsh holiday home burning Tom, or was that just a fad that died off years ago? I kind of remember it being on the news when I was a teen.

Not so much now. It could come back but the hotspots are able to tax the english squatters out. So I think it will sort itself out.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Reducing free stuff to their citizens would be main "earner."

What free stuff ?

 

[marvin martian]

Greece has been in a bit of a bind since it overspent and was unable to pay its debt back. In 2023, they were still at 160.2% debt-to-GDP ratio, and they still haven't recovered from the massive overspending and mismanagement of their funds.

The gift of leftist policies keeps on giving.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The gift of leftist policies keeps on giving.

What's wrong with spending the people's money on the people? seems entirely reasonable to me.

 

[jotathought]

What free stuff ?

Overspending on infrastructure, high spending on wages and pensions, early retirement incentives, universal healthcare, poverty alleviation programs, overstaffed public sector, energy and transportation subsidies, over-support of state-owned enterprises (i.e. utilities and transportation), and piss-poor management of their revenue.

 

[marvin martian]

What's wrong with spending the people's money on the people? seems entirely reasonable to me.

You probably also think Joe Biden transferring AOC's student loan debt from her to me was "reasonable", too, right?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You probably also think Joe Biden transferring AOC's student loan debt from her to me was "reasonable", too, right?

Yes. The military is socialized, or did you not notice? do you complain about that?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Overspending on infrastructure, high spending on wages and pensions, early retirement incentives, universal healthcare, poverty alleviation programs, overstaffed public sector, energy and transportation subsidies, over-support of state-owned enterprises (i.e. utilities and transportation), and piss-poor management of their revenue.

I was hoping that you could give an example.

 

[jotathought]

I was hoping that you could give an example.

I just gave you like 8-10.

 

[odanny]

‘Everywhere jam-packed’: mayor of Santorini warns of overtourism crisis

Nikos Zorzos calls for urgent action to halt construction spree he says presents existential threat to Greek island

www.theguardian.com

Ive never been to Santorini but I always wanted to go. But I think I will give it a miss now. It sounds horrific.

The greeks are in a bit of a bind. They need tourists but if they have too many it destroys the very thing that people want to see.

Its not just Santorini. Venice, Prague, Amsterdm are among other spots under threat.

At least they can take action locally. It sounds like Santorini is managed by the national govt.

Maybe the world needs to find somewhere else to visit ?

I am glad they overrun Santorini, Mykonos, and all the other popular Greek islands, when you know which ones are overrun, you find one of the other hundreds of islands to chill on. I went to Vietnam hoping there would be less Westerners than in Thailand, but it was as bad, possibly even worse.

I wonder if this is the post-Covid effect?

 

[odanny]

Tourism is their only earner.Same as Turkey really.

I'm seeing Turkey is a really underrated place, lots of beauty and history, and hotel prices are around $35 to $50, but Turkey has islands too, and on those rooms start at $150 a night in peak season. Unlikely to find one cheaper, most cost more. One drawback to Turkey is finding alcohol like you do in Greece and other nearby countries.

This should go in the Travel forum.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I just gave you like 8-10.

No, you just recited a list out of your atse.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I'm seeing Turkey is a really underrated place, lots of beauty and history, and hotel prices are around $35 to $50, but Turkey has islands too, and on those rooms start at $150 a night in peak season. Unlikely to find one cheaper, most cost more. One drawback to Turkey is finding alcohol like you do in Greece and other nearby countries.

This should go in the Travel forum.

My brother used to go there every year. You can get a beer or a glass of wine everywhere. Efes is the biggest beer btand.
Its a muslim country but they are quite relaxed. Nice people.