Evidence that universe created itself

[Hollie]

The implications are unsurmountable. If life can ONLY originate from another living thing, there is no possible way life could have spontaneous appeared "naturally". However, if biological life was a natural process then the only ingredients available are actually STATIC ELECTRICITY, WATER, and ROCK/STONE. Evolutionists are far too slick to fall into that trap. They ignore this issue --- call it something else, and pretended it isn't their problem...

There is no evidence that life can ONLY originated from living matter. As we obviously have abundant life on the planet with no reason to accept your various gods being responsible for that life, we can proceed on obvious indications that life clearly can arise from non-life.

I should first point out that you may have difficulty resolving anything claimed to be naturally occurring as you proceed from a position that all of existence is the result of supernaturalism at the hands of various magical gods.

Secondly and as a very basic assumption, if you don’t understand the four states of matter, you have no business in a science discussion: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.

As we have nothing to indicate that the four states of matter were supernaturally created by your various gods, we can proceed to examine how all matter shares common connections to those elemental four states of matter.

Acknowledging your fascination with rocks, I believe you may be a Moslem. They have a god rock that is the focus of much attention.

 

[james bond]

There is no evidence that life can ONLY originated from living matter.

Sure, we do, bupkis. The Bible says so and creation science finds proteins do not just form because of having loose amino acids. Thus, no abiogenesis. The atheists fail to get over themselves and accept the truth.

 

[Hollie]

Sure, we do, bupkis. The Bible says so and creation science finds proteins do not just form because of having loose amino acids. Thus, no abiogenesis. The atheists fail to get over themselves and accept the truth.

The hyper-religious do have some really silly conspiracy theories.

 

[LittleNipper]

The hyper-religious do have some really silly conspiracy theories.

Maybe you're including the atheists among that group? They believe Christians are out to get them saved...

 

[Dadoalex]

What ya got?

What do you want?

 

[LittleNipper]

Evolutionists certainly get upset when they are shown to be WRONG!
I'm so stupid and so wrong. What are evolutionists saying?
Where did amino acids originate from?

A new study finds that when certain rocks below the seafloor interact with seawater and undergo serpentinization, they can create amino acids. These serpentinizing rocks were common in early Earth's crust, and may have provided the chemical precursors that formed before the origin of life

Quote Reply LittleNipper

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Maybe you're including the atheists among that group? They believe Christians are out to get them saved...

They believe the Christians -- who send 10s of 1000s of proselytizers all over the world every year to prey on desperate people and convert them to Christianity -- are doing that? I WONDER WHY

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolutionists certainly get upset when they are shown to be WRONG!

haha, you poor little guy. You embarrass yourself with this dancing and prancing and preening, when you couldn't pass a 6th grade science quiz.

 

[Dadoalex]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

"Created" implies intent.
What then, was the "creator's intent?"

And if you cannot clearly define the "creator's intent" then there is no "creator"

 

[Hollie]

Maybe you're including the atheists among that group? They believe Christians are out to get them saved...

Atheists are not religious, so no, I don't see atheists worshipping rocks as you folks want to do.

 

[Flash]

It is one thing to look an elusive milisecond electron trace in a collider and come to the conclusion that matter can be created out of nothing and quite another thing to claim that the universe made itself out of nothing.

 

[Hollie]

Evolutionists certainly get upset when they are shown to be WRONG!
I'm so stupid and so wrong. What are evolutionists saying?
Where did amino acids originate from?

A new study finds that when certain rocks below the seafloor interact with seawater and undergo serpentinization, they can create amino acids. These serpentinizing rocks were common in early Earth's crust, and may have provided the chemical precursors that formed before the origin of life

Quote Reply LittleNipper

Who was shown to be wrong? You have this odd notion about rocks and abiogenesis. That's a nonsense idea that is not supported by science. Thats a nonsense idea you stole from a creation ministry.

It seems you are upset about being challenged for promoting nonsense claims.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It is one thing to look an elusive milisecond electron trace in a collider and come to the conclusion that matter can be created out of nothing and quite another thing to claim that the universe made itself out of nothing.

Well nobody claims that. Only that it is theoretically possible, given what we know about the physical world.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Where did amino acids originate from?

Uh...dumbass... That is not the only way they form. You seem to have the critical thinking skills of a gerbil.

 

[LittleNipper]

Dadoalex

Atheists are not religious, so no, I don't see atheists worshipping rocks as you folks want to do.

I'm not the one worshiping material things religiously, nor do I waste my time trying to make light of atheists.

 

[Hollie]

Evolutionists certainly get upset when they are shown to be WRONG!
I'm so stupid and so wrong. What are evolutionists saying?
Where did amino acids originate from?

A new study finds that when certain rocks below the seafloor interact with seawater and undergo serpentinization, they can create amino acids. These serpentinizing rocks were common in early Earth's crust, and may have provided the chemical precursors that formed before the origin of life

Quote Reply LittleNipper

The verbiage in your post was taken from something that used to be called ''Deepcarbon.net''. Which is a dead link.

 

[LittleNipper]

Who was shown to be wrong? You have this odd notion about rocks and abiogenesis. That's a nonsense idea that is not supported by science. Thats a nonsense idea you stole from a creation ministry.

It seems you are upset about being challenged for promoting nonsense claims.

It was not stolen from a Creation Ministry. You have the odd belief that one can believe in evolution and reject adiogenesis. And you are absolutely correct. Very little of what atheists believe can be supported by science.

 

[Hollie]

Dadoalex

I'm not the one worshiping material things religiously, nor do I waste my time trying to make light of atheists.

Rocks and fundamentalist kooks seem to be the exceptions to things you claim not to worship.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Very little of what atheists believe can be supported with science

The religious goobers think it is normal to make bold, extraordinary claims without a shred of evidence or reason to support them. Because that is all religious dogma is. So they get outside of their little prayer circle and don't know how to act normal.

 

[Hollie]

It was not stolen from a Creation Ministry. You have the odd belief that one can believe in evolution and reject adiogenesis. And you are absolutely correct. Very little of what atheists believe can be supported by science.

Why would anyone reject abiogenesis? We know it happened at some time in the distant past. Life on the planet supports the event of abiogenesis.

There is no requirement for 'belief' in science. Biological organisms evolve, the planet is globular in shape, (not flat), animals that roamed the planet millions of years ago are not a conspiracy theory as presumed by religious extremists, medicine cures disease, there are no fat, naked babies playing harps in the clouds and contrary to the Noah fable, we know that familial, incestuous relations are medically risky. All of the above is supported by various, complimentary fields of science.