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Evil As An Explanation

Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


... also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


that is not true, both good and evil are recognized for what they represent irregardless of any religious conviction. and they certainly do not exist through the dogmas of any given religion such as the desert religions but are secular and universal in their nature.


What is it, then, that causes evil?
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Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


What is it, then, that causes evil?



- PC, in regards to your reply to your above statement:

what could - "also refuse to consider the existence of evil" - possibly mean, that only "religious" people are affected by a metaphysical axiom as their means for remission due to their religion that an atheist is not also subjected to in their struggles in life ... PC, you are a political / religious fanatic.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


"PC, you are a political / religious fanatic."

So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.


Are you a government school grad?
 
The love of money is the root of all evil.

There, that was easy.
 
Evil exists because republicans are let loose to plunder and kill so they can get wealthy and enslave mankind.


I’m proud of you, ExLaxMan......
Not only are you a fool, but you have the energy to let everyone know it!


Today you're revealed the depth of you ignorance here: "republicans are let loose to plunder and kill so they can get wealthy and enslave mankind..."

1. The Democrats/Liberals are the party of the rich...

  1. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]
    1. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).
i. Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.

ii. Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

  1. Fourteen progressive foundations do, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.
i. Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.

ii. Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.

iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

  1. With over $100 billion in tax-exempt assets at their disposal, left-wing foundations have been able to invest massively greater amounts in their beneficiary groups. Ford gave more in one year than Scaife in 40!




2. The Democrats/Liberals are the party of abortion for convenience.


Have you ever had an utterance that wasn't directed by the DNC?

Ever?
You espouse the reich wing party line rather well your self. Can we say shill!
 
Evil exists because republicans are let loose to plunder and kill so they can get wealthy and enslave mankind.


I’m proud of you, ExLaxMan......
Not only are you a fool, but you have the energy to let everyone know it!


Today you're revealed the depth of you ignorance here: "republicans are let loose to plunder and kill so they can get wealthy and enslave mankind..."

1. The Democrats/Liberals are the party of the rich...

  1. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]
    1. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).
i. Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.

ii. Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

  1. Fourteen progressive foundations do, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.
i. Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.

ii. Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.

iii. The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

  1. With over $100 billion in tax-exempt assets at their disposal, left-wing foundations have been able to invest massively greater amounts in their beneficiary groups. Ford gave more in one year than Scaife in 40!




2. The Democrats/Liberals are the party of abortion for convenience.


Have you ever had an utterance that wasn't directed by the DNC?

Ever?
You espouse the reich wing party line rather well your self. Can we say shill!


'reich' is a reference to the Nazis.

The Nazis were on the Left, as are socialists, communists, and Liberals.

I'm on the Right, I espouse individualism and liberty.



" Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


Get it now, ExLaxMan????
 
Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


... also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


that is not true, both good and evil are recognized for what they represent irregardless of any religious conviction. and they certainly do not exist through the dogmas of any given religion such as the desert religions but are secular and universal in their nature.


What is it, then, that causes evil?
.
Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


What is it, then, that causes evil?



- PC, in regards to your reply to your above statement:

what could - "also refuse to consider the existence of evil" - possibly mean, that only "religious" people are affected by a metaphysical axiom as their means for remission due to their religion that an atheist is not also subjected to in their struggles in life ... PC, you are a political / religious fanatic.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


"PC, you are a political / religious fanatic."

So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.


Are you a government school grad?
.
So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


I gave you the answer, your fanaticism simply is unable to comprehend the truth.
 
Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


... also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


that is not true, both good and evil are recognized for what they represent irregardless of any religious conviction. and they certainly do not exist through the dogmas of any given religion such as the desert religions but are secular and universal in their nature.


What is it, then, that causes evil?
.
Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


What is it, then, that causes evil?



- PC, in regards to your reply to your above statement:

what could - "also refuse to consider the existence of evil" - possibly mean, that only "religious" people are affected by a metaphysical axiom as their means for remission due to their religion that an atheist is not also subjected to in their struggles in life ... PC, you are a political / religious fanatic.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


"PC, you are a political / religious fanatic."

So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.


Are you a government school grad?
.
So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


I gave you the answer, your fanaticism simply is unable to comprehend the truth.


You should restrict your posts to words that you understand, and can define.

Let me help.

Fanaticism:
Fanaticism come from the Latin word fanaticus, a word with a meaning that includes the word mad — in both senses. If you're mad, you might be angry — or you might be insane. Fanaticism involves both kinds of madness. Anger at those who disagree with you, taken so far that there's a desire to stop or even harm the dissenters? That's madness — and also fanaticism.
fanaticism - Dictionary Definition


I don't fit that definition in any way, as I have provided examples to prove my point.

You, unable to do the same, or deny what I have posted, have done what every dunce does when skewered.



Magnanimous as I am, I won't make you grovel....

Here's another chance:

Based on these examples, I claim that there is something more at work than the desire to die.

a. "Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock"
Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock


b. "Texas Church Shooting: More Than Two Dozen Parishioners Killed Federal officials said the motive for the shooting was unclear. " More than two dozen parishioners killed in rural Texas church shooting


Or this...?

c. "…yesterday as Padrica Caine Hill pleaded guilty to murdering her two small children and trying to strangle the third.

Hill had started out the morning of April 9, 1988, driving her husband to work, chatting about her plan to get the oil changed in the car. Instead, she went to their home on Quincy Place NE and smoked crack. She made the children breakfast. She dressed them. She let them watch cartoons.

Then she strangled 8-year-old Kristina and 4-year-old Eric Jr. with a clothes line. She attempted to strangle 2-year-old Jennifer, but left her breathing softly, the cord still wrapped around her neck. …
She Smoked Crack, Then Killed Her Children; `I Hadn't Planned on It,' D.C. Mother Says of Stranglings - The Washington Post | HighBeam Research



"When the police come, Padrica Hill says she loves her children. Why did she kill them? "I don't know," she answers in apparently genuine bewilderment. "I hadn't planned on it."
Morrow, Op. Cit.

I hadn't planned on killing my own children?????????


When evil is powerful enough to supplant even the desire of a mother to keep her own children from harm…..doesn't that imply that evil is something outside of human nature???



d. (CNN)The man charged with fatally shooting four random people over the past two months in a Tampa neighborhood seemed to be, weirdly enough, perfectly "fine" during police interviews, Tampa Police Chief Brian Dugan said on Wednesday.

"He seemed fine to me, which is a strange answer for me to give, because why is he out murdering people?" Dugan said. "He seemed like he knew exactly what he was doing and what was going on. He was very much aware of where he was and what he was doing."

Howell Donaldson III, 24, was arrested and charged with four counts of murder on Wednesday in connection with a series of seemingly random killings that had terrorized neighborhood residents over the past 51 days. Donaldson owned the firearm that police say was used in the four killings, and officials are confident they have their man.

But the arrest and police interview have shed little light on the motives for the killings, and police did not provide an explanation for how a quiet college graduate with no criminal record turned into a serial killer.

Howell Donaldson III: What we know about Tampa's alleged serial killer - CNN





"Many writers have said that one of evil's higher accomplishments has been to convince people that it does not exist."
ESSAY: Evil
 
... also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


that is not true, both good and evil are recognized for what they represent irregardless of any religious conviction. and they certainly do not exist through the dogmas of any given religion such as the desert religions but are secular and universal in their nature.


What is it, then, that causes evil?
.
Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


What is it, then, that causes evil?



- PC, in regards to your reply to your above statement:

what could - "also refuse to consider the existence of evil" - possibly mean, that only "religious" people are affected by a metaphysical axiom as their means for remission due to their religion that an atheist is not also subjected to in their struggles in life ... PC, you are a political / religious fanatic.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


"PC, you are a political / religious fanatic."

So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.


Are you a government school grad?
.
So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


I gave you the answer, your fanaticism simply is unable to comprehend the truth.


You should restrict your posts to words that you understand, and can define.

Let me help.

Fanaticism:
Fanaticism come from the Latin word fanaticus, a word with a meaning that includes the word mad — in both senses. If you're mad, you might be angry — or you might be insane. Fanaticism involves both kinds of madness. Anger at those who disagree with you, taken so far that there's a desire to stop or even harm the dissenters? That's madness — and also fanaticism.
fanaticism - Dictionary Definition


I don't fit that definition in any way, as I have provided examples to prove my point.

You, unable to do the same, or deny what I have posted, have done what every dunce does when skewered.



Magnanimous as I am, I won't make you grovel....

Here's another chance:

Based on these examples, I claim that there is something more at work than the desire to die.

a. "Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock"
Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock


b. "Texas Church Shooting: More Than Two Dozen Parishioners Killed Federal officials said the motive for the shooting was unclear. " More than two dozen parishioners killed in rural Texas church shooting


Or this...?

c. "…yesterday as Padrica Caine Hill pleaded guilty to murdering her two small children and trying to strangle the third.

Hill had started out the morning of April 9, 1988, driving her husband to work, chatting about her plan to get the oil changed in the car. Instead, she went to their home on Quincy Place NE and smoked crack. She made the children breakfast. She dressed them. She let them watch cartoons.

Then she strangled 8-year-old Kristina and 4-year-old Eric Jr. with a clothes line. She attempted to strangle 2-year-old Jennifer, but left her breathing softly, the cord still wrapped around her neck. …
She Smoked Crack, Then Killed Her Children; `I Hadn't Planned on It,' D.C. Mother Says of Stranglings - The Washington Post | HighBeam Research



"When the police come, Padrica Hill says she loves her children. Why did she kill them? "I don't know," she answers in apparently genuine bewilderment. "I hadn't planned on it."
Morrow, Op. Cit.

I hadn't planned on killing my own children?????????


When evil is powerful enough to supplant even the desire of a mother to keep her own children from harm…..doesn't that imply that evil is something outside of human nature???



d. (CNN)The man charged with fatally shooting four random people over the past two months in a Tampa neighborhood seemed to be, weirdly enough, perfectly "fine" during police interviews, Tampa Police Chief Brian Dugan said on Wednesday.

"He seemed fine to me, which is a strange answer for me to give, because why is he out murdering people?" Dugan said. "He seemed like he knew exactly what he was doing and what was going on. He was very much aware of where he was and what he was doing."

Howell Donaldson III, 24, was arrested and charged with four counts of murder on Wednesday in connection with a series of seemingly random killings that had terrorized neighborhood residents over the past 51 days. Donaldson owned the firearm that police say was used in the four killings, and officials are confident they have their man.

But the arrest and police interview have shed little light on the motives for the killings, and police did not provide an explanation for how a quiet college graduate with no criminal record turned into a serial killer.

Howell Donaldson III: What we know about Tampa's alleged serial killer - CNN





"Many writers have said that one of evil's higher accomplishments has been to convince people that it does not exist."
ESSAY: Evil
.
Fanaticism involves both kinds of madness. Anger at those who disagree with you, taken so far that there's a desire to stop or even harm the dissenters? That's madness — and also fanaticism.


I don't fit that definition in any way, as I have provided examples to prove my point.

I gave you the answer, your fanaticism simply is unable to comprehend the truth.

we might include - delusional - as well.




When evil is powerful enough to supplant even the desire of a mother to keep her own children from harm…..doesn't that imply that evil is something outside of human nature???

it certainly exists outside of human nature however the example does not imply either as both possibilities may exist concerning the individual involved.
 
What is it, then, that causes evil?
.
Those who reject the idea that God exists, also refuse to consider the existence of evil.


What is it, then, that causes evil?



- PC, in regards to your reply to your above statement:

what could - "also refuse to consider the existence of evil" - possibly mean, that only "religious" people are affected by a metaphysical axiom as their means for remission due to their religion that an atheist is not also subjected to in their struggles in life ... PC, you are a political / religious fanatic.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


"PC, you are a political / religious fanatic."

So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.


Are you a government school grad?
.
So you have no answer.
You're simply a bigot.

religion =/= metaphysical axioms


I gave you the answer, your fanaticism simply is unable to comprehend the truth.


You should restrict your posts to words that you understand, and can define.

Let me help.

Fanaticism:
Fanaticism come from the Latin word fanaticus, a word with a meaning that includes the word mad — in both senses. If you're mad, you might be angry — or you might be insane. Fanaticism involves both kinds of madness. Anger at those who disagree with you, taken so far that there's a desire to stop or even harm the dissenters? That's madness — and also fanaticism.
fanaticism - Dictionary Definition


I don't fit that definition in any way, as I have provided examples to prove my point.

You, unable to do the same, or deny what I have posted, have done what every dunce does when skewered.



Magnanimous as I am, I won't make you grovel....

Here's another chance:

Based on these examples, I claim that there is something more at work than the desire to die.

a. "Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock"
Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock


b. "Texas Church Shooting: More Than Two Dozen Parishioners Killed Federal officials said the motive for the shooting was unclear. " More than two dozen parishioners killed in rural Texas church shooting


Or this...?

c. "…yesterday as Padrica Caine Hill pleaded guilty to murdering her two small children and trying to strangle the third.

Hill had started out the morning of April 9, 1988, driving her husband to work, chatting about her plan to get the oil changed in the car. Instead, she went to their home on Quincy Place NE and smoked crack. She made the children breakfast. She dressed them. She let them watch cartoons.

Then she strangled 8-year-old Kristina and 4-year-old Eric Jr. with a clothes line. She attempted to strangle 2-year-old Jennifer, but left her breathing softly, the cord still wrapped around her neck. …
She Smoked Crack, Then Killed Her Children; `I Hadn't Planned on It,' D.C. Mother Says of Stranglings - The Washington Post | HighBeam Research



"When the police come, Padrica Hill says she loves her children. Why did she kill them? "I don't know," she answers in apparently genuine bewilderment. "I hadn't planned on it."
Morrow, Op. Cit.

I hadn't planned on killing my own children?????????


When evil is powerful enough to supplant even the desire of a mother to keep her own children from harm…..doesn't that imply that evil is something outside of human nature???



d. (CNN)The man charged with fatally shooting four random people over the past two months in a Tampa neighborhood seemed to be, weirdly enough, perfectly "fine" during police interviews, Tampa Police Chief Brian Dugan said on Wednesday.

"He seemed fine to me, which is a strange answer for me to give, because why is he out murdering people?" Dugan said. "He seemed like he knew exactly what he was doing and what was going on. He was very much aware of where he was and what he was doing."

Howell Donaldson III, 24, was arrested and charged with four counts of murder on Wednesday in connection with a series of seemingly random killings that had terrorized neighborhood residents over the past 51 days. Donaldson owned the firearm that police say was used in the four killings, and officials are confident they have their man.

But the arrest and police interview have shed little light on the motives for the killings, and police did not provide an explanation for how a quiet college graduate with no criminal record turned into a serial killer.

Howell Donaldson III: What we know about Tampa's alleged serial killer - CNN





"Many writers have said that one of evil's higher accomplishments has been to convince people that it does not exist."
ESSAY: Evil
.
Fanaticism involves both kinds of madness. Anger at those who disagree with you, taken so far that there's a desire to stop or even harm the dissenters? That's madness — and also fanaticism.


I don't fit that definition in any way, as I have provided examples to prove my point.

I gave you the answer, your fanaticism simply is unable to comprehend the truth.

we might include - delusional - as well.




When evil is powerful enough to supplant even the desire of a mother to keep her own children from harm…..doesn't that imply that evil is something outside of human nature???

it certainly exists outside of human nature however the example does not imply either as both possibilities may exist concerning the individual involved.


1. "Anger at those who disagree with you,taken so far that there's a desire to stop or even harm the dissenters? That's madness — and also fanaticism."

None of the above describes moi.



2. Given yet another chance to explain four cogent examples of evil.....you punted.



3. While I have provided examples to prove my point, you, to quote the Bible...
........Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin....

...have been found wanting.
 
1. An essential element in recognizing evil, in the context I mean it, is that evil is often gratuitous.
There are gradations of evil, true enough, but usually we know the motivation: money, power, love....personal aggrandizement that leads the weak of character to murder, steal, injure, torture....to attain profits of some sort.


2. But....not just to gain power.....evil can be recognized in the use of power, as well.

"The late Roman emperors were good at this sort of thing ordering someone to be killed in the middle of a dinner party,...and expecting the other guests to laugh. ...trying to be ingenious and unpredictable.

Stalin used to gather cronies and henchmen...for all night dinner-and-drinking sessions; at dawn, for fun, one or two of the guests might be led away, in sodden terror,to be executed by the NKVD. No explanation- just the heavy whimsy of the Antichrist awardng a door prize at the end of his party."
Lance Morrow, "Evil: An Investigation," p. 23




3. But, what to say when the motive is elusive?

a. "Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock"
Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock


b. "Texas Church Shooting: More Than Two Dozen Parishioners Killed Federal officials said the motive for the shooting was unclear. " More than two dozen parishioners killed in rural Texas church shooting




4. There is, of course, a way to understand most crimes....even some that we claim as 'incomprehensible.'
Evil.
It is the motivation. It may be a force, or the personification...Lucifer himself.


Evil is personified as Lucifer, Satan....the angel who lost his battle with God.
So.....evil is associated with God, in at least some sense.

"When two snipers were terrorizing the Washington, D.C. area, in the fall of 2002, at one point they left a Tarot card, "I am God," in an empty shell casing at the scene of one of their murders. The snipers were a study in the dynamics of doing a certain sort of evil: the gratuitiousness of their predations , the secrecy, the terror, the (one gathers) satanic glee, the random quality of their shootings, the sense of power, the immense injustice of their inflictions, the people struck down dindiscriminantly, with no reason, no order, no rational, all at the whim of the destoyer: Evil is an imitation of God...."
Lance Morrow, Op.Cit., p. 36-37



I say that at some level, motiveless evil is the desire, the attempt to be God-like.....exactly the same motive as Lucifer.





"On October 1, 2017, a man with no criminal record shot hundreds of people at a country music festival in Las Vegas. He spent months preparing for it, buying guns, and sketching out plans for how he could shoot as many people from the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas hotel.

“Why did he do it?” asked the media. We, the watchers of the horrible massacre, said we didn’t understand, either. I myself didn’t understand. Was he sick? Demented? Psychotic? To this day, the results of the autopsy have given no clues, with no indication that any of these reasons were to blame."
The Heroic Individual Is Needed to Confront the Evil of Nihilism | Anna-Marieta Moise
 
1. An essential element in recognizing evil, in the context I mean it, is that evil is often gratuitous.
There are gradations of evil, true enough, but usually we know the motivation: money, power, love....personal aggrandizement that leads the weak of character to murder, steal, injure, torture....to attain profits of some sort.


2. But....not just to gain power.....evil can be recognized in the use of power, as well.

"The late Roman emperors were good at this sort of thing ordering someone to be killed in the middle of a dinner party,...and expecting the other guests to laugh. ...trying to be ingenious and unpredictable.

Stalin used to gather cronies and henchmen...for all night dinner-and-drinking sessions; at dawn, for fun, one or two of the guests might be led away, in sodden terror,to be executed by the NKVD. No explanation- just the heavy whimsy of the Antichrist awardng a door prize at the end of his party."
Lance Morrow, "Evil: An Investigation," p. 23




3. But, what to say when the motive is elusive?

a. "Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock"
Las Vegas shooting motive eludes investigators as new details emerge about gunman Stephen Paddock


b. "Texas Church Shooting: More Than Two Dozen Parishioners Killed Federal officials said the motive for the shooting was unclear. " More than two dozen parishioners killed in rural Texas church shooting




4. There is, of course, a way to understand most crimes....even some that we claim as 'incomprehensible.'
Evil.
It is the motivation. It may be a force, or the personification...Lucifer himself.


Evil is personified as Lucifer, Satan....the angel who lost his battle with God.
So.....evil is associated with God, in at least some sense.

"When two snipers were terrorizing the Washington, D.C. area, in the fall of 2002, at one point they left a Tarot card, "I am God," in an empty shell casing at the scene of one of their murders. The snipers were a study in the dynamics of doing a certain sort of evil: the gratuitiousness of their predations , the secrecy, the terror, the (one gathers) satanic glee, the random quality of their shootings, the sense of power, the immense injustice of their inflictions, the people struck down dindiscriminantly, with no reason, no order, no rational, all at the whim of the destoyer: Evil is an imitation of God...."
Lance Morrow, Op.Cit., p. 36-37



I say that at some level, motiveless evil is the desire, the attempt to be God-like.....exactly the same motive as Lucifer.





"On October 1, 2017, a man with no criminal record shot hundreds of people at a country music festival in Las Vegas. He spent months preparing for it, buying guns, and sketching out plans for how he could shoot as many people from the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas hotel.

“Why did he do it?” asked the media. We, the watchers of the horrible massacre, said we didn’t understand, either. I myself didn’t understand. Was he sick? Demented? Psychotic? To this day, the results of the autopsy have given no clues, with no indication that any of these reasons were to blame."
The Heroic Individual Is Needed to Confront the Evil of Nihilism | Anna-Marieta Moise
The answer is simple. He was evil. That's all you need to know.
 
An interesting read;

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html

What do you think about this article?


What's your take on the second sentence in the article?

I am not really sure, but I think the Dimension God is from had no evil in existence, but that God himself personally knew that evil was a way of life that could exist, if he allowed it to. And I think when he created humanity, he wanted us to know about it as well. Not as a possible choice, but to only be exposed to it so we can be aware of it and its results. To experience it first hand I think. And compare it to his goodness and know which way is best.

That's as best as I understand it.
 
An interesting read;

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html

What do you think about this article?


What's your take on the second sentence in the article?

I am not really sure, but I think the Dimension God is from had no evil in existence, but that God himself personally knew that evil was a way of life that could exist, if he allowed it to. And I think when he created humanity, he wanted us to know about it as well. Not as a possible choice, but to only be exposed to it so we can be aware of it and its results. To experience it first hand I think. And compare it to his goodness and know which way is best.

That's as best as I understand it.


It appears to me that the author is assigning a pejorative to the definition of God.

It makes God responsible for evil.

God has given us free will, and intellect to consider the results of our actions.

Those are the blessings of the Judeo-Christian faith, and the most significant difference from the religion of submission...Islam.

Hence, God doesn't 'allow' evil, He allows his creations to choose.
 
An interesting read;

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html

What do you think about this article?


What's your take on the second sentence in the article?

I am not really sure, but I think the Dimension God is from had no evil in existence, but that God himself personally knew that evil was a way of life that could exist, if he allowed it to. And I think when he created humanity, he wanted us to know about it as well. Not as a possible choice, but to only be exposed to it so we can be aware of it and its results. To experience it first hand I think. And compare it to his goodness and know which way is best.

That's as best as I understand it.


It appears to me that the author is assigning a pejorative to the definition of God.

It makes God responsible for evil.

God has given us free will, and intellect to consider the results of our actions.

Those are the blessings of the Judeo-Christian faith, and the most significant difference from the religion of submission...Islam.

Hence, God doesn't 'allow' evil, He allows his creations to choose.

In my view, God is not a Judeo Christian, and their beliefs are not his. In Isaiah 45:7 God claims that he created evil; cased closed in my view of this. God said he did all the choosing, not humanity. Free will is an illusion.
Is Man a Free Moral Agent - J. Preston Eby
 
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An interesting read;

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html

What do you think about this article?


What's your take on the second sentence in the article?

I am not really sure, but I think the Dimension God is from had no evil in existence, but that God himself personally knew that evil was a way of life that could exist, if he allowed it to. And I think when he created humanity, he wanted us to know about it as well. Not as a possible choice, but to only be exposed to it so we can be aware of it and its results. To experience it first hand I think. And compare it to his goodness and know which way is best.

That's as best as I understand it.





It appears to me that the author is assigning a pejorative to the definition of God.

It makes God responsible for evil.

God has given us free will, and intellect to consider the results of our actions.

Those are the blessings of the Judeo-Christian faith, and the most significant difference from the religion of submission...Islam.

Hence, God doesn't 'allow' evil, He allows his creations to choose.

In my view, God is not a Judeo Christian, and their beliefs are not his. In Isaiah 45:7 God claims that he created evil; cased closed in my view of this. God said he did all the choosing, not humanity. Free will is an illusion.
Is Man a Free Moral Agent - J. Preston Eby


I've seen translations that say 'disaster' rather than 'evil.'



"Free will is an illusion."

I suggest that you re-examine your life.
 
An interesting read;

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html

What do you think about this article?


What's your take on the second sentence in the article?

I am not really sure, but I think the Dimension God is from had no evil in existence, but that God himself personally knew that evil was a way of life that could exist, if he allowed it to. And I think when he created humanity, he wanted us to know about it as well. Not as a possible choice, but to only be exposed to it so we can be aware of it and its results. To experience it first hand I think. And compare it to his goodness and know which way is best.

That's as best as I understand it.





It appears to me that the author is assigning a pejorative to the definition of God.

It makes God responsible for evil.

God has given us free will, and intellect to consider the results of our actions.

Those are the blessings of the Judeo-Christian faith, and the most significant difference from the religion of submission...Islam.

Hence, God doesn't 'allow' evil, He allows his creations to choose.

In my view, God is not a Judeo Christian, and their beliefs are not his. In Isaiah 45:7 God claims that he created evil; cased closed in my view of this. God said he did all the choosing, not humanity. Free will is an illusion.
Is Man a Free Moral Agent - J. Preston Eby


I've seen translations that say 'disaster' rather than 'evil.'



"Free will is an illusion."

I suggest that you re-examine your life.


Free will means a mind is unaffected by any outside influences; no such thing. Hey, but to each their own views. Nothing in the human consciousness is free. Our minds are so heavily influenced its often pathetic.
 

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