Facts about an Obamacare repeal - Things the average citizen doesn't know

[Wyatt earp]

Your a Tool right a dumb ass? Nothing good about Obama care?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Rw I am telling you Obama care is done in July and will be rewritten

 

[Votto]

It can't be repealed until 2017 when the next GOP President is sworn in. Plus, we need 60 votes in the senate and only have 56. It's an ideological fight not a real one yet, because we still don't have the power. Also, any Right winger in the GOP like Paul Ryan or an extremeists like Bachmann if they say they can they are trying to control your mind to make you think they can for political reasons and even they know nothing can be done till 2016.
Anybody that tells you what I have said above should run for President because it's honesty and the truth. Calling a spade a spade and they aren't caught up in the washington machine.

From,

John Kasich,

"Kasich doesn't think the Affordable Care Act will be repealed, even if Republicans win a Senate majority and consolidate their hold on the House in next month's election. "That's not gonna happen," Kasich told The Associated Press during a recent re-election campaign swing. "The opposition to it was really either political or ideological," the Republican governor added. "I don't think that holds water against real flesh and blood, and real improvements in people's lives."

Bingo! Fact and honesty that you wont find in Washington. I put it in perspective for all of you guys above. It's not just the left that is playing games with you all. It's the right as well. They each have their own agendas and can't be direct in saying what it is.

Example - Defunding Obama care - Ok, let's say they do that. That means everybody on it will lose their coverage and insurance rates will spike even higher, and what will the GOP replace it with? They haven't even been vocal about a plan they just say repeal it. Even if they had a plan it wouldn't matter because they know and we know Obama will veto anything short of a public option. Full take over. He's proven that. So let's say Obama vetos it. Now the libs have something to run on in 2016 because the GOP fucked everything up by defunding Obamacare and won't work with Obama to replace something that needs immedate replacement.

This is political suicide and will costs us 2016. Miss Hilary WILL be president, and all those GOP gains were for nothing.

Bottom line - Don't listen to Levin, Hannity, Rush, Bachmann, Paul, Rubio, or anybody else that says repeal Obamacare because they can't do it and replace it yet.

I happen to agree, Obamacare will not be repealed.

The GOP is essentially useless. All they do is run against things, like Obamacare, but have no intention of ever doing anything about it.

Those that listen to Levin, Rush, etc., need to abandon the GOP altogether. Let Progressives destroy the country under the Dim label instead of falsely labeling people like Bush a conservative.

 

[Votto]

I will be bankrupt by 2017. $1,200/month premium, $13,000 family deductible, $6,000 out of pockets.
Fuck this mother fucking shit.

If you thought health care was expensive before, wait until it's free!
I feel your pain. This will only get worse.

It will never be free. Expect more GOp gains and the Presidency in 2016 and that's when the real changes will happen that you were referring to. Yes, lots more suffering to come. That's what happens when you vote or don't. There's consequences. With that person comes the whole package.

You miss the point. My healthcare will be free when I am broken and destitute.

At some point, the only way to have health care will be to be broken and destitute.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It can't be repealed until 2017 when the next GOP President is sworn in. Plus, we need 60 votes in the senate and only have 56. It's an ideological fight not a real one yet, because we still don't have the power. Also, any Right winger in the GOP like Paul Ryan or an extremeists like Bachmann if they say they can they are trying to control your mind to make you think they can for political reasons and even they know nothing can be done till 2016.
Anybody that tells you what I have said above should run for President because it's honesty and the truth. Calling a spade a spade and they aren't caught up in the washington machine.

From,

John Kasich,

"Kasich doesn't think the Affordable Care Act will be repealed, even if Republicans win a Senate majority and consolidate their hold on the House in next month's election. "That's not gonna happen," Kasich told The Associated Press during a recent re-election campaign swing. "The opposition to it was really either political or ideological," the Republican governor added. "I don't think that holds water against real flesh and blood, and real improvements in people's lives."

Bingo! Fact and honesty that you wont find in Washington. I put it in perspective for all of you guys above. It's not just the left that is playing games with you all. It's the right as well. They each have their own agendas and can't be direct in saying what it is.

Example - Defunding Obama care - Ok, let's say they do that. That means everybody on it will lose their coverage and insurance rates will spike even higher, and what will the GOP replace it with? They haven't even been vocal about a plan they just say repeal it. Even if they had a plan it wouldn't matter because they know and we know Obama will veto anything short of a public option. Full take over. He's proven that. So let's say Obama vetos it. Now the libs have something to run on in 2016 because the GOP fucked everything up by defunding Obamacare and won't work with Obama to replace something that needs immedate replacement.

This is political suicide and will costs us 2016. Miss Hilary WILL be president, and all those GOP gains were for nothing.

Bottom line - Don't listen to Levin, Hannity, Rush, Bachmann, Paul, Rubio, or anybody else that says repeal Obamacare because they can't do it and replace it yet.

I happen to agree, Obamacare will not be repealed.

The GOP is essentially useless. All they do is run against things, like Obamacare, but have no intention of ever doing anything about it.

Those that listen to Levin, Rush, etc., need to abandon the GOP altogether. Let Progressives destroy the country under the Dim label instead of falsely labeling people like Bush a conservative.

Your not that smart are you? The supremes will crash obama in july, watch

 

[Wyatt earp]

It will be 5 to 4 of course but Obama care is done

 

[Votto]

It can't be repealed until 2017 when the next GOP President is sworn in. Plus, we need 60 votes in the senate and only have 56. It's an ideological fight not a real one yet, because we still don't have the power. Also, any Right winger in the GOP like Paul Ryan or an extremeists like Bachmann if they say they can they are trying to control your mind to make you think they can for political reasons and even they know nothing can be done till 2016.
Anybody that tells you what I have said above should run for President because it's honesty and the truth. Calling a spade a spade and they aren't caught up in the washington machine.

From,

John Kasich,

"Kasich doesn't think the Affordable Care Act will be repealed, even if Republicans win a Senate majority and consolidate their hold on the House in next month's election. "That's not gonna happen," Kasich told The Associated Press during a recent re-election campaign swing. "The opposition to it was really either political or ideological," the Republican governor added. "I don't think that holds water against real flesh and blood, and real improvements in people's lives."

Bingo! Fact and honesty that you wont find in Washington. I put it in perspective for all of you guys above. It's not just the left that is playing games with you all. It's the right as well. They each have their own agendas and can't be direct in saying what it is.

Example - Defunding Obama care - Ok, let's say they do that. That means everybody on it will lose their coverage and insurance rates will spike even higher, and what will the GOP replace it with? They haven't even been vocal about a plan they just say repeal it. Even if they had a plan it wouldn't matter because they know and we know Obama will veto anything short of a public option. Full take over. He's proven that. So let's say Obama vetos it. Now the libs have something to run on in 2016 because the GOP fucked everything up by defunding Obamacare and won't work with Obama to replace something that needs immedate replacement.

This is political suicide and will costs us 2016. Miss Hilary WILL be president, and all those GOP gains were for nothing.

Bottom line - Don't listen to Levin, Hannity, Rush, Bachmann, Paul, Rubio, or anybody else that says repeal Obamacare because they can't do it and replace it yet.

I happen to agree, Obamacare will not be repealed.

The GOP is essentially useless. All they do is run against things, like Obamacare, but have no intention of ever doing anything about it.

Those that listen to Levin, Rush, etc., need to abandon the GOP altogether. Let Progressives destroy the country under the Dim label instead of falsely labeling people like Bush a conservative.

Your not that smart are you? The supremes will crash obama in july, watch

Thanks to the Supreme Court "conservative" justice Roberts, Obamacare is now the law of the land.

Now who is not smart again? SCOTUS is Obama's rubber stamp of approval. He owns them.

 

[Geaux4it]

I will be bankrupt by 2017. $1,200/month premium, $13,000 family deductible, $6,000 out of pockets.
Fuck this mother fucking shit.

But hey, look at the bright side. Some lazy fat bastard is sitting around laughing at you on your dime

Now get to work

-Geaux

 

[Wyatt earp]

They made up there minds after reading about Gruber

 

[Votto]

I get a kick out of conservatives. They think that there are actually people in the federal government who wish to represent them, when in reality they should be getting the tax information in order as they will be hunted down like dogs by the IRS, all under the nose of the GOP who claim to represent them.

LOL.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I bet my life on this one

 

[toxicmedia]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

 

[Votto]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

Progressives rule both party's. That is what partisans from both sides refuse to admit. For if they admitted this one fact, they would be forced into the realization that they don't have any representation. That is because Progressives have an agenda that does not involve representing their constituents. That is why they must then lie. They must lie that you can keep your health care coverage if you like your health care coverage and they must lie that the costs will not double for coverage that is not as good as the one you have now. It is why they would rather spend all their political capital making illegals legal, while ignoring the plight of destitute Americans in places like Detroit.

This is why Congress only has a 10% approval rating, and consistently so. It is also ironic that the same government is proud of their "democracy", so much so that they preach to the rest of the world how great it is, while overthrowing governments and propping up new "democratic" ones in their stead.

The American people are no better off than they were under the British crown in the 1700's. In fact, they are arguably worse off. After all, the Revolution happened because of increased taxation and no representation. Looking at corporate tax rates, the US has tax rates well above the UK, and has approval ratings less than that of the people in the UK.

Perhaps we would have been better off if Washington's boat had sprung a leak and drowned him as he crossed the Delaware River.

 

[bripat9643]

Democrats are running like hell from ACA, which cost them majorities. Watch for Dems and the GOP to team up for 2/3 votes to over ride veto.
Obamacare will either be repealed or seriously amended in the next 2 years.

It will not, because of how spli they are on what the law should or should not do. It's a matter of principle. Congressman wont negotiate on principle matters of this magnitude. Bottom line - Expect Obamacare to get much worse and affect way more people and business negatively. It's in the GOP's favor to let it happen for 2016 and make this the single most important issue along with jobs. You can link the two. Perfect situation for the GOP heading into 2016.

Yes because some fixes are bipartisan. Medical device tax, for starters.

Those are the ones that don't matter.

 

[bripat9643]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

If they don't repeal Obamacare, what is this "great shift" that will supposedly occur?

 

[toxicmedia]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

Progressives rule both party's. That is what partisans from both sides refuse to admit. For if they admitted this one fact, they would be forced into the realization that they don't have any representation. That is because Progressives have an agenda that does not involve representing their constituents. That is why they must then lie. They must lie that you can keep your health care coverage if you like your health care coverage and they must lie that the costs will not double for coverage that is not as good as the one you have now. It is why they would rather spend all their political capital making illegals legal, while ignoring the plight of destitute Americans in places like Detroit.

This is why Congress only has a 10% approval rating, and consistently so. It is also ironic that the same government is proud of their "democracy", so much so that they preach to the rest of the world how great it is, while overthrowing governments and propping up new "democratic" ones in their stead.

The American people are no better off than they were under the British crown in the 1700's. In fact, they are arguably worse off. After all, the Revolution happened because of increased taxation and no representation. Looking at corporate tax rates, the US has tax rates well above the UK, and has approval ratings less than that of the people in the UK.

Perhaps we would have been better off if Washington's boat had sprung a leak and drowned him as he crossed the Delaware River.

I resist the term "progressive" as much as the term "conservative" these days to describe righties and lefties in this country.

Progressive implies change, and the liberal mentality has been prevalent since 1970, so it's the people who call themselves conservatives that are actually trying to change that.

The first Elephant in the room, IMO, is the fact that the GOP is viewed as the party of white people, and the DNC is viewed as the party of everybody else. Almost all the polls done on this validate my statement.

Politicians have a low approval rating because the median income in the US is flat. Whoever is in charge will get the blame.

Economists predicted in 2007 that the recession and unemployment wouldn't get better till 2016, but they left out the fact that the jobs that come back will be McJobs.

The second Elephant in the room is that American workers in general are lazy and entitled compared to their foreign counterparts, and politicians that point that out, or talk about ways to remedy that, will not get elected. The politician who lies and says he'll create jobs for you, will get elected. The people who create jobs are people like Bill Gates, not Barak Obama.

I'm way off topic now...but I see the writing on the wall, IMO, Obamacare will neither destroy nor remedy our cost prohibitive healthcare system. The impending access to healthcare crisis will eventually result in a government healthcare system. I can't imagine any way to avoid it, even though I'm not in favor of it.

 

[Votto]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

Progressives rule both party's. That is what partisans from both sides refuse to admit. For if they admitted this one fact, they would be forced into the realization that they don't have any representation. That is because Progressives have an agenda that does not involve representing their constituents. That is why they must then lie. They must lie that you can keep your health care coverage if you like your health care coverage and they must lie that the costs will not double for coverage that is not as good as the one you have now. It is why they would rather spend all their political capital making illegals legal, while ignoring the plight of destitute Americans in places like Detroit.

This is why Congress only has a 10% approval rating, and consistently so. It is also ironic that the same government is proud of their "democracy", so much so that they preach to the rest of the world how great it is, while overthrowing governments and propping up new "democratic" ones in their stead.

The American people are no better off than they were under the British crown in the 1700's. In fact, they are arguably worse off. After all, the Revolution happened because of increased taxation and no representation. Looking at corporate tax rates, the US has tax rates well above the UK, and has approval ratings less than that of the people in the UK.

Perhaps we would have been better off if Washington's boat had sprung a leak and drowned him as he crossed the Delaware River.

I resist the term "progressive" as much as the term "conservative" these days to describe righties and lefties in this country.

Progressive implies change, and the liberal mentality has been prevalent since 1970, so it's the people who call themselves conservatives that are actually trying to change that.

The first Elephant in the room, IMO, is the fact that the GOP is viewed as the party of white people, and the DNC is viewed as the party of everybody else. Almost all the polls done on this validate my statement.

Politicians have a low approval rating because the median income in the US is flat. Whoever is in charge will get the blame.

Economists predicted in 2007 that the recession and unemployment wouldn't get better till 2016, but they left out the fact that the jobs that come back will be McJobs.

The second Elephant in the room is that American workers in general are lazy and entitled compared to their foreign counterparts, and politicians that point that out, or talk about ways to remedy that, will not get elected. The politician who lies and says he'll create jobs for you, will get elected. The people who create jobs are people like Bill Gates, not Barak Obama.

I'm way off topic now...but I see the writing on the wall, IMO, Obamacare will neither destroy nor remedy our cost prohibitive healthcare system. The impending access to healthcare crisis will eventually result in a government healthcare system. I can't imagine any way to avoid it, even though I'm not in favor of it.

No, the term Progressive is perfect for these people. The term accurately shows that their approach is one like a frog being slowly cooked in a hot pot of water. Put the frog in a scolding hot pot and it jumps out, but put him in a warm pot and slowly turn up the heat and he cooks.

Just imagine what the response of Americans would have been 100 years ago to Obamacare. Hell, FDR could barely convince people to embrace Social Security.

As the standard of living slowly goes South, as well as jobs, the frog is transfixed on such partisan issues as racial injustices and gay sex.

 

[toxicmedia]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

If they don't repeal Obamacare, what is this "great shift" that will supposedly occur?

They won't repeal Obamacare. They're only telling you that to keep your enthusiasm high.

The shift I'm talking about will include an end to the Tea Party, and back to how things worked during the Bush and Reagan administrations. Government spending will be defended by the GOP. Talk about slashing taxes will end. Talk about Washington being broken will end. If you criticize the President you won't be considered a patriot, you'll be called someone who is helping the terrorists...plus a lot more like that

 

[Votto]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

If they don't repeal Obamacare, what is this "great shift" that will supposedly occur?

They won't repeal Obamacare. They're only telling you that to keep your enthusiasm high.

The shift I'm talking about will include an end to the Tea Party, and back to how things worked during the Bush and Reagan administrations. Government spending will be defended by the GOP. Talk about slashing taxes will end. Talk about Washington being broken will end. If you criticize the President you won't be considered a patriot, you'll be called someone who is helping the terrorists...plus a lot more like that

The frogs are still transfixed despite your pleas.

 

[toxicmedia]

IMO as an employee of a medical insurance carrier, and as someone who has spent 8-10 hours a day on the phone with the federal healthcare exchange, providers, and ACA policy holders, since Obamacare plans started on January 1st 2014...

The GOP would be well advised to consider the reality that medical insurance, and costs of healthcare, will NOT go down. No matter what. If Obamacare is repealed, the GOP will get blamed by the DNC for it. Right now the GOP is in a great spot. They can blame it on Obamacare.

I don't think the GOP will be voting to repeal Obamacare if they control the house, senate, and white house.

In fact, not to get off topic, but when the GOP has the house, senate, white house, and maybe even the SCOTUS...we're going to find a dramatic shift of platform, in a great many ways.

Progressives rule both party's. That is what partisans from both sides refuse to admit. For if they admitted this one fact, they would be forced into the realization that they don't have any representation. That is because Progressives have an agenda that does not involve representing their constituents. That is why they must then lie. They must lie that you can keep your health care coverage if you like your health care coverage and they must lie that the costs will not double for coverage that is not as good as the one you have now. It is why they would rather spend all their political capital making illegals legal, while ignoring the plight of destitute Americans in places like Detroit.

This is why Congress only has a 10% approval rating, and consistently so. It is also ironic that the same government is proud of their "democracy", so much so that they preach to the rest of the world how great it is, while overthrowing governments and propping up new "democratic" ones in their stead.

The American people are no better off than they were under the British crown in the 1700's. In fact, they are arguably worse off. After all, the Revolution happened because of increased taxation and no representation. Looking at corporate tax rates, the US has tax rates well above the UK, and has approval ratings less than that of the people in the UK.

Perhaps we would have been better off if Washington's boat had sprung a leak and drowned him as he crossed the Delaware River.

I resist the term "progressive" as much as the term "conservative" these days to describe righties and lefties in this country.

Progressive implies change, and the liberal mentality has been prevalent since 1970, so it's the people who call themselves conservatives that are actually trying to change that.

The first Elephant in the room, IMO, is the fact that the GOP is viewed as the party of white people, and the DNC is viewed as the party of everybody else. Almost all the polls done on this validate my statement.

Politicians have a low approval rating because the median income in the US is flat. Whoever is in charge will get the blame.

Economists predicted in 2007 that the recession and unemployment wouldn't get better till 2016, but they left out the fact that the jobs that come back will be McJobs.

The second Elephant in the room is that American workers in general are lazy and entitled compared to their foreign counterparts, and politicians that point that out, or talk about ways to remedy that, will not get elected. The politician who lies and says he'll create jobs for you, will get elected. The people who create jobs are people like Bill Gates, not Barak Obama.

I'm way off topic now...but I see the writing on the wall, IMO, Obamacare will neither destroy nor remedy our cost prohibitive healthcare system. The impending access to healthcare crisis will eventually result in a government healthcare system. I can't imagine any way to avoid it, even though I'm not in favor of it.

No, the term Progressive is perfect for these people. The term accurately shows that their approach is one like a frog being slowly cooked in a hot pot of water. Put the frog in a scolding hot pot and it jumps out, but put him in a warm pot and slowly turn up the heat and he cooks.

Just imagine what the response of Americans would have been 100 years ago to Obamacare. Hell, FDR could barely convince people to embrace Social Security.

As the standard of living slowly goes South, as well as jobs, the frog is transfixed on such partisan issues as racial injustices and gay sex.

Racial issues and gay sex do not affect the economy. They are losing social issues that come back to bite the GOP when they address them.

It's not 1940, and it's not 1780.