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Food industry braces for Obama trans fat ban

Just label everything 'CAUTION: THIS COULD POSSIBLY KILL YOU', and be done with it. Label it all, not just food. Most just wanna be left alone to enjoy their burgers & fries. My God, life is short. Nanny Staters need to grow up and stop begging a Nanny Government to tell them what to eat & drink. Period, end of story.
 
Those American adults who need a Nanny Government to tell them what to eat and drink are merely frightened, irresponsible, lazy, weak-minded individuals. It's time for them to stop acting like children.

The rest of us don't want their Nanny State. We're responsible adults who value our Freedom & Liberty. You eat too much 'bad' food? Oh well, that's on you. The rest of us shouldn't be punished because you're lazy and stupid. We can't ban things just because many among us are too dumb and lazy to be responsible adults.


Except it's not just on you.

Heart disease and strokes account for more than $312 billion in health care expenditures.
So heart attacks also boost the economy? Awesome!
 
Just label everything 'CAUTION: THIS COULD POSSIBLY KILL YOU', and be done with it. Label it all, not just food. Most just wanna be left alone to enjoy their burgers & fries. My God, life is short. Nanny Staters need to grow up and stop begging a Nanny Government to tell them what to eat & drink. Period, end of story.

Do you know of some other ingredient that is allowed to be added to food products without listing?
This is from last year:

Trans Fat Now Listed With Saturated Fat and Cholesterol
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) now requires food manufacturers to list trans fat (i.e., trans fatty acids) on Nutrition Facts and some Supplement Facts panels.

The objection is in banning it. Let the consumer decide, not Washington.

Once again -- where's anyone telling anyone what to eat or drink? Where's a "ban"? Funny y'all can't answer that, doncha think?
 
Hell why stop there. He and his tyrant wife knows what's best for all of us. start with ABORTIONS and watch all these people who is agreeing with him on Trans Fat heads explode. but they (Obama's )wouldn't do that because there is BIG MONEY in abortion and their way of imposing Population control all rolled into one. so what it's the people killing off their own OFFSPRING. at least they won't be EATING all that "trans fat"
you are one zany chick :tinfoil: Turn off fox & Friends Steph :talktothehand:
 
You don't need a Nanny when you're an adult. Too many Americans want Government to treat them like children. American adults need to grow up and start taking responsibility for their own lives.

If i want a greasy burger & fries, so be it. Leave me alone. I don't need a Nanny. Nanny States are for lazy and weak-minded people. Time to grow up America.
How would you know? :eusa_eh: Did you ask an adult?
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)


The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.

Do you know of some other ingredient that is allowed to be added to food products without listing? Do you know of an ingredient that is as harmful as man produced trans fat that is used in even a fraction of the products that have been adding these trans fats? It is that combination that has put trans fat on the chopping block. It is being added without notification when added in measurements of 0.5 g which means it does not appear on the label. At the same time, it is used in so many products that avoiding it is almost impossible. The fact it is not listed means it is impossible for an average citizen to know how much of the harmful substance is being ingested and can easily be ingested in dangerous quantities without knowledge to the consumer.

Don't need the ingrediants list, or a food or warning label to inform me eating certain things isn't a good idea.

Uhhhh..... yes you do. And even then you won't get the whole story until someone exposes it.

Have any idea what "conflict of interest" means?
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)




The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW
Maybe be we should ban electric cars, baggy pants, abortions, and buggery...since Obama seems to think he has the right to do all of this banning.

Maybe be we should ban electric cars, baggy pants, abortions, and buggery...since Obama seems to think he has the right to do all of this banning.



Another drama queen...
All he's doing is raising the costs of food on purpose.

Once everyone figures this out you liberals will have to transplant every vote you get from other countries like Somalia, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Syria, Libya,.......


He? Who's he?

Okay.....she......your prissy president...Barack Obama.

And where do YOU see a "ban"?
And where do you see O'bama involved?
Read OP articles much?



Read the OP numbnuts.

Irony..........
 
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Those American adults who need a Nanny Government to tell them what to eat and drink are merely frightened, irresponsible, lazy, weak-minded individuals. It's time for them to stop acting like children.

The rest of us don't want their Nanny State. We're responsible adults who value our Freedom & Liberty. You eat too much 'bad' food? Oh well, that's on you. The rest of us shouldn't be punished because you're lazy and stupid. We can't ban things just because many among us are too dumb and lazy to be responsible adults.
yeah its "on us" in the form of paying for your diabetes care you idiot paulitician
 
Avoiding trans fats and saturated fats will not only reduce your chance of heart disease but also other serious diseases. Any amount that enters your body is likely to increase your cholesterol which leads eventually to heart disease and strokes. Eliminating artificial trans fats from all foods is a relatively easy way to reduce cholesterol. Both the individual and the nation benefits. We spend 444 billion dollars a year on heart disease, 1 in every 6 healthcare dollars.
Plenty of people avoid it now. I get very little trans fat because of my eating choices. You libs need mother government to make decisions for you, that's what the argument is really all about.
If you avoid restaurants and processed foods that use hydrogenation, you can avoid artificial trans fats. Since most people eat in restaurants and most of our baked and fried foods contain it, that's not practical for most people.
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)




The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.
There are certainly foods and additives that probably should be banned. However for the FDA to ban a food substance, there must be overwhelming scientific evidence that it's not safe. Trans fats happen to be one of those substances. The food processing industries in the US are huge and they are well represented in Washington.
 
Avoiding trans fats and saturated fats will not only reduce your chance of heart disease but also other serious diseases. Any amount that enters your body is likely to increase your cholesterol which leads eventually to heart disease and strokes. Eliminating artificial trans fats from all foods is a relatively easy way to reduce cholesterol. Both the individual and the nation benefits. We spend 444 billion dollars a year on heart disease, 1 in every 6 healthcare dollars.
Plenty of people avoid it now. I get very little trans fat because of my eating choices. You libs need mother government to make decisions for you, that's what the argument is really all about.

If you avoid restaurants and processed foods that use hydrogenation, you can avoid artificial trans fats. Since most people eat in restaurants and most of our baked and fried foods contain it, that's not practical for most people.

He has yet to answer what his problem is with a simple demonstration that an artificial substance concocted in a lab is safe for human consumption.

Which is precisely what this issue is.
 
Avoiding trans fats and saturated fats will not only reduce your chance of heart disease but also other serious diseases. Any amount that enters your body is likely to increase your cholesterol which leads eventually to heart disease and strokes. Eliminating artificial trans fats from all foods is a relatively easy way to reduce cholesterol. Both the individual and the nation benefits. We spend 444 billion dollars a year on heart disease, 1 in every 6 healthcare dollars.
Plenty of people avoid it now. I get very little trans fat because of my eating choices. You libs need mother government to make decisions for you, that's what the argument is really all about.
If you avoid restaurants and processed foods that use hydrogenation, you can avoid artificial trans fats. Since most people eat in restaurants and most of our baked and fried foods contain it, that's not practical for most people.
I might eat out in a restaurant 4 times a year. I have no trouble avoiding that crap.
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)




The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.
There are certainly foods and additives that probably should be banned. However for the FDA to ban a food substance, there must be overwhelming scientific evidence that it's not safe. Trans fats happen to be one of those substances. The food processing industries in the US are huge and they are well represented in Washington.
Transfats are certainly safe. No one ever got sick from eating a meal containing them.
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)


The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.
There are certainly foods and additives that probably should be banned. However for the FDA to ban a food substance, there must be overwhelming scientific evidence that it's not safe. Trans fats happen to be one of those substances. The food processing industries in the US are huge and they are well represented in Washington.

Transfats are certainly safe. No one ever got sick from eating a meal containing them.

Highly questionable, but hey, if you believe that, and you're a food seller --- all you gotta do it demonstrate it. Then sell all you want. The only thing new here is we're not going to assume that's true just because the food industry -- which exists for profit, not as a public service --- says it is.

So you demonstrate that it's innocuous, and off you go.

So where's the issue? Or do you just not think you're accountable for what you sell?

Responsibility --- the bane of Randbotism.
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)


The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.
There are certainly foods and additives that probably should be banned. However for the FDA to ban a food substance, there must be overwhelming scientific evidence that it's not safe. Trans fats happen to be one of those substances. The food processing industries in the US are huge and they are well represented in Washington.

Transfats are certainly safe. No one ever got sick from eating a meal containing them.

Highly questionable, but hey, if you believe that, and you're a food seller --- all you gotta do it demonstrate it. Then sell all you want. The only thing new here is we're not going to assume that's true just because the food industry -- which exists for profit, not as a public service --- says it is.

So you demonstrate that it's innocuous, and off you go.

So where's the issue? Or do you just not think you're accountable for what you sell?

Responsibility --- the bane of Randbotism.
Except they've been selling it for 50 years and no one has filed a lawsuit claiming it made them sick.
Sucks to be you, asshole.
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

snip:
The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)


The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.
There are certainly foods and additives that probably should be banned. However for the FDA to ban a food substance, there must be overwhelming scientific evidence that it's not safe. Trans fats happen to be one of those substances. The food processing industries in the US are huge and they are well represented in Washington.

Transfats are certainly safe. No one ever got sick from eating a meal containing them.

Highly questionable, but hey, if you believe that, and you're a food seller --- all you gotta do it demonstrate it. Then sell all you want. The only thing new here is we're not going to assume that's true just because the food industry -- which exists for profit, not as a public service --- says it is.

So you demonstrate that it's innocuous, and off you go.

So where's the issue? Or do you just not think you're accountable for what you sell?

Responsibility --- the bane of Randbotism.
Except they've been selling it for 50 years and no one has filed a lawsuit claiming it made them sick.
Sucks to be you, asshole.

Aw poor baby, did that hurt? :itsok:

So you're basing the safety of a laboratory experiment whose effects are only recently been understood on the basis that "no one filed a lawsuit"?? :rofl:

No, it seems it sucks to be you with that kind of desperation.

Easily debunked too: Nestle Faces $5 Million Lawsuit Over Trans Fats in Frozen Pizzas

[plaintiff[: "It shouldn't have a toxic food additive that's been banned all around the world."

... This is not the first trans fat lawsuit. McDonald's paid $8.5 million to settle two lawsuits in 2005 alleging the company misled consumers about trans fat levels in its food.

So you can't answer the challenge.
Randbot dismissed.
 
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Those American adults who need a Nanny Government to tell them what to eat and drink are merely frightened, irresponsible, lazy, weak-minded individuals. It's time for them to stop acting like children.

The rest of us don't want their Nanny State. We're responsible adults who value our Freedom & Liberty. You eat too much 'bad' food? Oh well, that's on you. The rest of us shouldn't be punished because you're lazy and stupid. We can't ban things just because many among us are too dumb and lazy to be responsible adults.
In every "free" society there must be a balance between personal freedom and protection of others. I think most of us can agree that one man's freedom should not infringe on the freedom of others. Without laws to insure this, our society would degenerate into survival of the fittest and anarchy would prevail.

The problem is determining how much should personal freedoms be limited to protect others

Wearing a set belt in an auto is certainly an infringement of personal freedom. We justified this on the basis that injury or the loss of human life effects more than just the person who dies or is injured. Families, employers, and of course insurance rates are effected. Likewise, mandating health insurance and restricting the sale of alcohol and tobacco, and unsafe foods all limit our personal freedoms but also protect others.

I think increased limitations on personal freedoms are inevitable because we are becoming far more interdependent on each other. . Also, the value of a single life has become much more important to society and we are willing to limit some personal freedoms just to save one life.
 
Those American adults who need a Nanny Government to tell them what to eat and drink are merely frightened, irresponsible, lazy, weak-minded individuals. It's time for them to stop acting like children.

The rest of us don't want their Nanny State. We're responsible adults who value our Freedom & Liberty. You eat too much 'bad' food? Oh well, that's on you. The rest of us shouldn't be punished because you're lazy and stupid. We can't ban things just because many among us are too dumb and lazy to be responsible adults.
In every "free" society there must be a balance between personal freedom and protection of others. I think most of us can agree that one man's freedom should not infringe on the freedom of others. Without laws to insure this, our society would degenerate into survival of the fittest and anarchy would prevail.

The problem is determining how much should personal freedoms be limited to protect others

Wearing a set belt in an auto is certainly an infringement of personal freedom. We justified this on the basis that injury or the loss of human life effects more than just the person who dies or is injured, families, employers, and of course insurance rates are effected. Likewise, mandating health insurance and restricting the sale of alcohol and tobacco, and unsafe foods all limit our personal freedoms but also protect others.

I think increased limitations on personal freedoms are inevitable because we are becoming far more interdependent on each other. . Also, the value of a single life has become much important society and we are willing to limit some personal freedoms just to save one life.

Who is we? :dunno:
 
LOl, you all should be so pleased you voted in these tryants who can wave a magic wand and BAN things in your life. Maybe we can get a petition going to BAN ABORTIONS.

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The Obama administration is expected to all but ban trans fat in a final ruling that could drop as soon as next week, killing most uses of an ingredient that has been put in everything from frozen pizza to Reese’s Pieces but since deemed harmful to human health.

The agency may create some very limited exemptions, but the ruling could force food companies to cut trans fat use beyond the 85 percent reduction already achieved over the past decade — a key piece of the Obama administration’s broader agenda to nudge Americans toward a healthier diet. (Well hell, my mommy and daddy done both passed away. thank gawd for dear Leader)




The food industry believes low-levels of trans fats are safe. Industry leaders have banded together behind-the-scenes to craft a food additive petition that will ask FDA to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, such as in the sprinkles on cupcakes, cookies and ice cream. The industry hasn’t shared details, but officials maintain the uses will represent “very limited amounts.”

For more than 60 years, partially hydrogenated oils have been used in food products under the status generally recognized as safe, which does not require FDA’s approval. But since the 1990s, reams of studies have linked trans fat consumption to cardiovascular disease, causing somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 premature deaths before the industry started phasing it out.



In late 2013 the Obama administration issued a tentative determination that partially hydrogenated oils are not generally recognized as safe. The move sent shock waves through the food industry, which has already brought down average consumption from more than 4 grams per day to about 1 gram per day — an exodus largely fueled by mandatory labeling imposed a decade ago. Scores of popular products, including Oreos and Cheetos, have quietly dropped partially hydrogenated oils over the years, but it remains an ingredient in many products, including Pop Secret microwave popcorn, Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls and Sara Lee cheesecake, as well as some restaurant fryers and commercial bakery goods.

If FDA sticks to its guns in its final determination — and most in food policy circles assume it will — the agency will be taking a firm step toward pushing out more of the remaining uses of trans fat.


all of it here:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/fda-trans-fat-ban-118003.html#ixzz3aQwZLZoW

Of the things they allow in US products are many carcinogens, toxins, poisons, and things suspected to be of this sort. Banning fat or any sort doesn't make any sense given what they're still allowing. Oh well, I guess it does make sense in that someone got a payoff somewhere. Likely whoever has the non-trans-fat alternative.
There are certainly foods and additives that probably should be banned. However for the FDA to ban a food substance, there must be overwhelming scientific evidence that it's not safe. Trans fats happen to be one of those substances. The food processing industries in the US are huge and they are well represented in Washington.
Transfats are certainly safe. No one ever got sick from eating a meal containing them.
It's not about eating a single meal.
 

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