FreedomWerks (Koch Ind) wants Hatch (R) out

[Dot Com]

Looks like FreedomWorks/T-Party/Koch Bros failed in their attempt to unseat Hatch (R)

 

[The T]

Looks like FreedomWorks/T-Party/Koch Bros failed in their attempt to unseat Hatch (R)

Has the election already happened?

 

[JoeB131]

As much as it pains me to stick up for a Mormon, I'm not seeing the problem here.

Hatch has been one of the most reliably conservative senators all the way back to the Reagan days. The idea that he's not "conservative" enough at this point I think shows the GOP has gone too far to the right.

There is a point where the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.

 

[Old Rocks]

But Joe, you and Amelia are conservatives. "T" and his peer group are 'Conservatives'. Somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun. That kind of philosophy with the intellectual prowess of Forest Gump. Has to be an embarressment to real conservatives.

 

[The T]

But Joe, you and Amelia are conservatives. "T" and his peer group are 'Conservatives'. Somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun. That kind of philosophy with the intellectual prowess of Forest Gump. Has to be an embarressment to real conservatives.

"Peer Group" Gracie? And what group would that be exactly asswipe?

 

[Dot Com]

As much as it pains me to stick up for a Mormon, I'm not seeing the problem here.

Hatch has been one of the most reliably conservative senators all the way back to the Reagan days. The idea that he's not "conservative" enough at this point I think shows the GOP has gone too far to the right.

There is a point where the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.

Their litmus tests are waaay too far to the Right now.

 

[JoeB131]

But Joe, you and Amelia are conservatives. "T" and his peer group are 'Conservatives'. Somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun. That kind of philosophy with the intellectual prowess of Forest Gump. Has to be an embarressment to real conservatives.

Again, when you've got the irony of Ann Coulter claiming RomneyCare is conservative and ObamaCare is socialist, labels become increasingly meaningless.

And so is anything T really says... He's going full Mel Gibson on me. At least he hasn't called me "sugar tits" yet...

 

[Full-Auto]

Thanks for the update. Hatch is more like Santorum (R) than I thought. A big gov't conservative in t-partier clothing. I guess I'd rather have him than a t-partier.

Of course you do, fiscal accountability scares the hell out of you.

 

[The T]

But Joe, you and Amelia are conservatives. "T" and his peer group are 'Conservatives'. Somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun. That kind of philosophy with the intellectual prowess of Forest Gump. Has to be an embarressment to real conservatives.

Again, when you've got the irony of Ann Coulter claiming RomneyCare is conservative and ObamaCare is socialist, labels become increasingly meaningless.

And so is anything T really says... He's going full Mel Gibson on me. At least he hasn't called me "sugar tits" yet...

Blame, Minimization, Denial, Obfuscation...

Guess where it fits Joey?

MAN UP.

 

[The T]

In fact Joey? LEAVE.

*I* am going to be on you like white on rice herin.

as long as you post/ YOU can't hide from me.

*I* am going to destroy you.

 

[Meister]

As much as it pains me to stick up for a Mormon, I'm not seeing the problem here.

Hatch has been one of the most reliably conservative senators all the way back to the Reagan days. The idea that he's not "conservative" enough at this point I think shows the GOP has gone too far to the right.

There is a point where the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.

We saw that from the left with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.

 

[Meister]

But Joe, you and Amelia are conservatives. "T" and his peer group are 'Conservatives'. Somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun. That kind of philosophy with the intellectual prowess of Forest Gump. Has to be an embarressment to real conservatives.

This coming from the democrats token communist.
I would never judge the democrats with a nut like roxie.

 

[The T]

As much as it pains me to stick up for a Mormon, I'm not seeing the problem here.

Hatch has been one of the most reliably conservative senators all the way back to the Reagan days. The idea that he's not "conservative" enough at this point I think shows the GOP has gone too far to the right.

There is a point where the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.

We saw that from the left with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.

And BOTH of those gentlemen were shunnned from the Democrat Party...and were forced to leave or go independent...

 

[Meister]

As much as it pains me to stick up for a Mormon, I'm not seeing the problem here.

Hatch has been one of the most reliably conservative senators all the way back to the Reagan days. The idea that he's not "conservative" enough at this point I think shows the GOP has gone too far to the right.

There is a point where the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.

We saw that from the left with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.

And BOTH of those gentlemen were shunnned from the Democrat Party...and were forced to leave or go independent...

Yup...they weren't liberal enough. They were old school democrats

 

[Dot Com]

In fact Joey? LEAVE.

*I* am going to be on you like white on rice herin.

as long as you post/ YOU can't hide from me.

*I* am going to destroy you.

meltdown alert!!! Get a grip man

 

[The T]

We saw that from the left with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.

And BOTH of those gentlemen were shunnned from the Democrat Party...and were forced to leave or go independent...

Yup...they weren't liberal enough. They were old school democrats

"YOU have given too much Reputaion In The last 24 hours"...

Precisely. Those gentlemen were OLD SCHOOL Democrats...that cared about the Republic.


Scoop Jackson, and all that....WE live in a world NOW that demands that Marxist policies dominiate...ONE I will refuse to conform unto...

 

[Dot Com]

Hatch (R) will prolly defeat the Democrat but Koch Industries/Freedomworks must have wanted him gone for some reason.

***edit: here we go:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.c...-determined-to-eliminate-orrin-hatch-early-in

Hatch won’t be easy to defeat, but hardcore conservatives still haven’t forgiven him for previously backing the Children’s Health Insurance Program and the DREAM Act.

 

[JoeB131]

As much as it pains me to stick up for a Mormon, I'm not seeing the problem here.

Hatch has been one of the most reliably conservative senators all the way back to the Reagan days. The idea that he's not "conservative" enough at this point I think shows the GOP has gone too far to the right.

There is a point where the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.

We saw that from the left with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.

And it was equally wrong then. How does Joe Leiberman go from being the Vice-Presidential nominee in 2000 to being the guy they are trying to run out on a rail in 2006?

Part of the problem is that we are voting for idealogies and not people.

I could vote for someone I disagreed with politically if I felt he was a sincere man with good intentions. Usually, the practicalities bring them to the center, anyway.

But if you have gerrymandering and super pacs making these guys unable to really be themselves, you end up with a problem.

JMHO..

 

[Dot Com]

update:

Orrin Hatch narrowly forced into Utah Senate primary | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

"There will be a primary election," state party chairman Thomas Wright told the delegates gathered here at the South Towne Exposition Center for Saturday's convention.

Hatch once again denigrated the "outside groups" that have been involved in this race. (FreedomWorks, which is backing Liljenquist, has invested significantly in an opposition effort to Hatch.) "They're just vicious and awful and they don't tell the truth. And that's been really hard for me to take," Hatch said.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Hatch is more like Santorum (R) than I thought. A big gov't conservative in t-partier clothing. I guess I'd rather have him than a t-partier.

Understood, given it’s Utah; but both are equally repulsive prospects.

In fact Joey? LEAVE.

*I* am going to be on you like white on rice herin.

as long as you post/ YOU can't hide from me.

*I* am going to destroy you.

So much for conservative ‘tolerance.’