Gaza army

[Humanity]

Hamas is training 25,000 new fighters in gaza

Their way of planning for peace????

And the Israeli way of planning for peace?

Continued occupation and extension of illegal settlements?

One day, someone will wake up, and see that NEITHER side is right...

When that day comes it will be like banging the heads together of two children arguing against each other!

They will both kick and scream, bleat and cry but there will be acceptance... Then, and only then, will there be peace!

 

[Humanity]

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?

Not just the Arab world...

Why does Israel refuse to sign up to nuclear treaties?

Why does Israel refuse weapons inspectors?

The WHOLE world is waiting for zionist Israel to unleash just ONE nuclear attack... Bye Bye Israel!

And THAT would be a shame! A shame for the moderate Jews who want NOTHING to do with the extremist zionists!

 

[Hollie]

Hamas is training 25,000 new fighters in gaza

Their way of planning for peace????

And the Israeli way of planning for peace?

Continued occupation and extension of illegal settlements?

One day, someone will wake up, and see that NEITHER side is right...

When that day comes it will be like banging the heads together of two children arguing against each other!

They will both kick and scream, bleat and cry but there will be acceptance... Then, and only then, will there be peace!

Can you identify where this alleged "occupation" is taking place?

 

[Hollie]

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?

Not just the Arab world...

Why does Israel refuse to sign up to nuclear treaties?

Why does Israel refuse weapons inspectors?

The WHOLE world is waiting for zionist Israel to unleash just ONE nuclear attack... Bye Bye Israel!

And THAT would be a shame! A shame for the moderate Jews who want NOTHING to do with the extremist zionists!

Why would Israel have a need to unleash a nuclear (or nukular) attack?

The conventional armed forces have been and still are, by far, the better of Arab-Moslem armies and their wars of attempted annihilation of the Jewish State.

 

[Daniyel]

It's in their charter. No peace agreements. Treaties are to be used to decieve the Zionist entity in order to be able to rearm.

Israels long term agenda is the end of a Palestine area, so why should any Palestinian consider serious agreements with Israel?

If Israel wanted to really do that it would already have gotten it over with over 40 years ago.

Even the zionuts are not so stupid to think they would get away with genocide, now or 40 years ago!

Strangely the Six days war tells a different story.

 

[toastman]

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

That is not your (or Israel's) decision to make.

You do not have any right telling others how to live their lives.

Gazan's have every right to defend themselves from Israeli aggression.

They have a right to have weapons and an army to do that with.

Hamas and Israel are in a state of war. If Israel is capable of stopping weapon shipments to Gaza, then that's too bad for Hamas.

In fact, Hamas is more than welcome to try and do the same.

 

[Penelope]

Hamas is training 25,000 new fighters in gaza

Their way of planning for peace????

"Si vis pacem, para bellum".

What s shame that the world community continues to provide welfare payments to support Islamic terrorism.

Just think of what America could do with billions they send to Israel.

 

[Penelope]

If Israel had to fight hand to hand , man to man with like weapons they'd be extinct. The IDF don't seem to be able to run, they just shoot. They let their bullets do the chasing.

 

[Penelope]

Bleipriester, Roudy, et al,

As a coherent political policy concerning Palestine (the 1988 State of), Israel does not have a real firm future objective.

While the various political parties have their individual agendas, and positions, a collectively Israeli Foreign Policy really has not been formulated.

It's in their charter. No peace agreements. Treaties are to be used to decieve the Zionist entity in order to be able to rearm.

Israels long term agenda is the end of a Palestine area, so why should any Palestinian consider serious agreements with Israel?

(COMMENT)

The Israelis agree on the need to survive the long standing Arab Palestinian objective to evict the Jewish State. But much beyond that, the Israelis still are debating the future of their state and how it will develop regional relations.

The Arab Palestinians have formulated a long-term foreign policy based on the re-acquisition of the territory they believe is "their territory" as outlined by the Palestine Order in Council; within the boundaries determined by the Principal Allied Powers on the surrender of the Ottoman Empire. This has not changed substantially since 1948. And this is the contention the Israelis are still dealing with today.

As of yet, there is no reasonable expectation that any agreement made today with the Arab Palestinian will be honored for any length of time. The past history and behaviors of the Arab Palestinian has demonstrated that any agreed upon peace will be short term until the Arab Palestinians as mustered enough military might and political support to make another act of aggression to (in their eyes) liberate the territorial boundaries they consider their sovereign right; even though they have nothing that grants them that sovereign right.

The Arab Palestinians have made a solemn oath to continue the conflict until they liberate what they consider as Palestine. And until they abdicate that oath, they can be expected to be contained.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even Arafat wasn't negotiating in good faith, which is why the peace deal during Clinton's years fell apart. It hasn't been as much about establishing this mythical Palestine, as much as the desire to destroy the Jewish state. At its heart this conflict is about religious ideology and will remain so.

There is no jewish state.

 

[Penelope]

If Israel had to fight hand to hand , man to man with like weapons they'd be extinct. The IDF don't seem to be able to run, they just shoot. They let their bullets do the chasing.

This sounds like a good time to put the bottle of booze away.

If only I drank I would probably careless about you Zionist, but I don't so I have a huge problem with IDF who shoot at kids and teens instead of chasing after them. Just too darn lazy to run I guess, and hell its not a jew life, so who in the hell cares. Yet here in the US a cop is suppose to chase a criminal miles, but not in Israel. Gaza has every right to protect itself from the IDF, but all Isarel needs to do is throw one of their fire bombs over or fly over and drop a few.

 

[Billo_Really]

Typically pointless, shortstop. Gaza does not have an army, it has a collection of Islamic terrorist syndicates, often hostile to one another.

The continuing Islamist terrorist attacks aimed at Israel are not undertaken by an armed, uniformed force but by Islamic terrorist networks who have every intention of launching attacks from civilian areas where there is relative safety from an aggressive Israeli retaliation. The islami. Terrorists you define as heroes are simply cowards who know full well that Israel will take steps to avoid civilian casualties.

Gazan's are not terrorists, you racist piece of shit.

 

[Hollie]

Typically pointless, shortstop. Gaza does not have an army, it has a collection of Islamic terrorist syndicates, often hostile to one another.

The continuing Islamist terrorist attacks aimed at Israel are not undertaken by an armed, uniformed force but by Islamic terrorist networks who have every intention of launching attacks from civilian areas where there is relative safety from an aggressive Israeli retaliation. The islami. Terrorists you define as heroes are simply cowards who know full well that Israel will take steps to avoid civilian casualties.

Gazan's are not terrorists, you racist piece of shit.

Is "Gazan" a race?

If you're referring to the welfare cheats who put Islamic terrorists into a political position, we might refer to them as Islamic terrorist enablers.

Does that offend your tender, little, sensibilities?

Maybe take a short break from your small, menial Joooooo hating.

 

[toastman]

Hamas and Israel are in a state of war. If Israel is capable of stopping weapon shipments to Gaza, then that's too bad for Hamas.

In fact, Hamas is more than welcome to try and do the same.

I don't recall giving you permission to speak?

Sorry sir, please accept my apologies. May I speak now sir ?

Awake from your coma, angry little short man.

The containment is a necessary response to Islamic terrorism. You and others need to read the Hamas Charter and to make an attempt to understand that Cult Screed.

Hollie the Whore, spewing her racist garbage, like the little troll that she is.

How was her post racist ?

 

[Roudy]

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

That is not your (or Israel's) decision to make.

You do not have any right telling others how to live their lives.

Gazan's have every right to defend themselves from Israeli aggression.

They have a right to have weapons and an army to do that with.

And so do Israelis have a right to defend themselves from Islamist savages. Let the games begin. No more whining or complaining.

 

[Roudy]

It's in their charter. No peace agreements. Treaties are to be used to decieve the Zionist entity in order to be able to rearm.

Israels long term agenda is the end of a Palestine area, so why should any Palestinian consider serious agreements with Israel?

If Israel wanted to really do that it would already have gotten it over with over 40 years ago.

Even the zionuts are not so stupid to think they would get away with genocide, now or 40 years ago!

Genocide is an Arab Muslim specialty. That's how all these lands in the Middle East became Muslim.

The individual Muslim conquests, together with their beginning and ending dates, are as follows:


List of conquests:

Muhammad's campaigns
Main article: Military career of Muhammad

Byzantine–Arab Wars: 634–750Edit
Main article: Byzantine–Arab Wars
Further information: Khalid ibn al-Walid and 'Amr ibn al-'As
Wars were between the Byzantine Empire and at first the Rashidun and then the Umayyad caliphates and resulted in the conquest of the Syria region, Egypt, North Africa and Armenia (Byzantine Armenia and Sassanid Armenia).

Under the RashidunEdit
Main article: Rashidun conquests

Conquests of Muhammad and the Rashidun

• The conquest of Syria, 637
• The conquest of Armenia, 639
• The conquest of Egypt, 639
• The conquest of North Africa, 652
• The conquest of Cyprus, 654

Under the UmayyadsEdit

• The conquest of North Africa, 665
• The first Arab siege of Constantinople, 674–678
• The second Arab siege of Constantinople, 717–718
• Conquest of Hispania, 711–718
• The conquest of Georgia, 736

Later conquestsEdit

• The conquest of Crete, 820
• The conquest of Sicily and incursions into southern Italy, 827

Frontier warfare continued in the form of cross border raids between the Umayyads and the Byzantine Isaurian dynasty allied with the Khazars across Asia Minor. Byzantine naval dominance and Greek fire resulted in a major victory at the Battle of Akroinon (739); one of a series of military failures of the Caliph Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik across the empire that checked the expansion of the Umayyads and hastened their fall.

Military campaigns

Conquest of Persia and Mesopotamia: 633–651Edit
Main article: Muslim conquest of Persia
Further information: Khalid ibn al-Walid and Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas
In the reign of Yazdgerd III, the last Sassanid ruler of the Persian Empire, an Arab Muslim army secured the conquest of Persia after their decisive defeats of the Sassanid army at the Battle of Walaja in 633 and Battle of al-Qādisiyyah in 636, but the final military victory didn't come until 642 when the Persian army was defeated at the Battle of Nahāvand. These victories brought Persia (modern Iran), and its territories and provinces comprising Caucasian Albania (Azerbaijan and southern Dagestan), Armenia, Assyria (Assuristan) and Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) and south east Anatolia under Arab Muslim rule. Then, in 651, Yazdgerd III was murdered at Merv, ending the dynasty. His son Peroz III escaped through the Pamir Mountainsin what is now Tajikistan and arrived in Tang China.

Conquest of Transoxiana: 662–751Edit
Main articles: Islamic conquest of Afghanistan, Islamic conquest of Turkestan, Battle of the Defile and Battle of Talas
Further information: History of Arabs in Afghanistan
Following the First Fitna, the Umayyads resumed the push to capture Sassanid lands and began to move towards the conquest of lands east and north of the plateau towards Greater Khorasan and the Silk Road along Transoxiana. Following the collapse of the Sassanids, these regions had fallen under the sway of local Iranian and Turkic tribes as well as the Tang Dynasty. The conquest of Transoxiana (Ar. Ma wara' al-nahr) was chiefly the work of Qutayba ibn Muslim, who between 705 and 715 expanded Muslim control over Sogdiana, Khwarezm and the Jaxartes valley up to Ferghana. Following Qutayba's death in 715, local revolts and the defeats at the hands of the Chinese-sponsored Turgesh (chiefly the "Day of Thirst" in 724 and the Battle of the Defile in 731) led to a gradual loss of the province: by 738, the Turgesh and their Sogdian allies were raiding Khurasan south of the Oxus. However, the murder of the Turgesh khagan, Su-lu, and the conciliatory policies of Nasr ibn Sayyar towards the native population opened the way for a swift, albeit not total, restoration of Muslim control over Transoxiana in 739–741. Muslim control over the region was consolidated with the defeat of the armies of Tang China in the Battle of Talas in 751.



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[Roudy]

Typically pointless, shortstop. Gaza does not have an army, it has a collection of Islamic terrorist syndicates, often hostile to one another.

The continuing Islamist terrorist attacks aimed at Israel are not undertaken by an armed, uniformed force but by Islamic terrorist networks who have every intention of launching attacks from civilian areas where there is relative safety from an aggressive Israeli retaliation. The islami. Terrorists you define as heroes are simply cowards who know full well that Israel will take steps to avoid civilian casualties.

Gazan's are not terrorists, you racist piece of shit.

Is "Gazan" a race?

If you're referring to the welfare cheats who put Islamic terrorists into a political position, we might refer to them as Islamic terrorist enablers.

Does that offend your tender, little, sensibilities?

Maybe take a short break from your small, menial Joooooo hating.

Big mouth low IQ forgets that Gazan govt. is listed as a racist barbaric terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

 

[Roudy]

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?

Not just the Arab world...

Why does Israel refuse to sign up to nuclear treaties?

Why does Israel refuse weapons inspectors?

The WHOLE world is waiting for zionist Israel to unleash just ONE nuclear attack... Bye Bye Israel!

And THAT would be a shame! A shame for the moderate Jews who want NOTHING to do with the extremist zionists!

Who is demanding "weapons inspections" for Israel you friggin retard.

Hamas, a terrorist organization, training an additional 25,000 Islamic assholes like you should be alarming to the world.

 

[Roudy]

Bleipriester, Roudy, et al,

As a coherent political policy concerning Palestine (the 1988 State of), Israel does not have a real firm future objective.

While the various political parties have their individual agendas, and positions, a collectively Israeli Foreign Policy really has not been formulated.

It's in their charter. No peace agreements. Treaties are to be used to decieve the Zionist entity in order to be able to rearm.

Israels long term agenda is the end of a Palestine area, so why should any Palestinian consider serious agreements with Israel?

(COMMENT)

The Israelis agree on the need to survive the long standing Arab Palestinian objective to evict the Jewish State. But much beyond that, the Israelis still are debating the future of their state and how it will develop regional relations.

The Arab Palestinians have formulated a long-term foreign policy based on the re-acquisition of the territory they believe is "their territory" as outlined by the Palestine Order in Council; within the boundaries determined by the Principal Allied Powers on the surrender of the Ottoman Empire. This has not changed substantially since 1948. And this is the contention the Israelis are still dealing with today.

As of yet, there is no reasonable expectation that any agreement made today with the Arab Palestinian will be honored for any length of time. The past history and behaviors of the Arab Palestinian has demonstrated that any agreed upon peace will be short term until the Arab Palestinians as mustered enough military might and political support to make another act of aggression to (in their eyes) liberate the territorial boundaries they consider their sovereign right; even though they have nothing that grants them that sovereign right.

The Arab Palestinians have made a solemn oath to continue the conflict until they liberate what they consider as Palestine. And until they abdicate that oath, they can be expected to be contained.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even Arafat wasn't negotiating in good faith, which is why the peace deal during Clinton's years fell apart. It hasn't been as much about establishing this mythical Palestine, as much as the desire to destroy the Jewish state. At its heart this conflict is about religious ideology and will remain so.

There is no jewish state.

Israel is a Jewish state and will always be. Deal with it, you asylum escapee.

 

[aris2chat]

Typically pointless, shortstop. Gaza does not have an army, it has a collection of Islamic terrorist syndicates, often hostile to one another.

The continuing Islamist terrorist attacks aimed at Israel are not undertaken by an armed, uniformed force but by Islamic terrorist networks who have every intention of launching attacks from civilian areas where there is relative safety from an aggressive Israeli retaliation. The islami. Terrorists you define as heroes are simply cowards who know full well that Israel will take steps to avoid civilian casualties.

Gazan's are not terrorists, you racist piece of shit.

Is "Gazan" a race?

If you're referring to the welfare cheats who put Islamic terrorists into a political position, we might refer to them as Islamic terrorist enablers.

Does that offend your tender, little, sensibilities?

Maybe take a short break from your small, menial Joooooo hating.

Big mouth low IQ forgets that Gazan govt. is listed as a racist barbaric terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

Soon they will be fighting erakat instead of abbas.

 

[Roudy]

It's in their charter. No peace agreements. Treaties are to be used to decieve the Zionist entity in order to be able to rearm.

Israels long term agenda is the end of a Palestine area, so why should any Palestinian consider serious agreements with Israel?

If Israel wanted to really do that it would already have gotten it over with over 40 years ago.

Even the zionuts are not so stupid to think they would get away with genocide, now or 40 years ago!

Genocide is an Arab Muslim specialty. That's how all these lands in the Middle East became Muslim.

400 Years of Christian/Islamic Struggle: An Analysis

By Richard C. Csaplar, Jr.
Guest Columnist

I was very disappointed to see that U.S. News would publish a clearly false article, adopting the world's clearly false, politically correct (PC) view of the place of the Crusades in history. What makes it even worse, the article hides its views under the additional headline falsehood, "The Truth About the Epic Clash Between Christianity and Islam."

Let me explain.

The opening heading states, "During the Crusades, East and West first met." This is just totally in error, as any person with the slightest knowledge of history well knows. East and West had been fighting for at least 1,500 years before the first Crusade.

To give just a few examples -- the Persians invaded Europe in an attempt to conquer the Greeks in the fifth century B.C. The Greek, Alexander the Great, attempted to conquer all of Asia, as far as India, in the fourth century B.C. Both the Persians of the east and the Greeks of the west set up colonial empires founded upon bloody military conquest. The Romans established by bloody military conquest colonies in Mesopotamia, northwestern Arabia, and Assyria in the second century A.D.

A different type of bloody conquest occurred through the movement of whole tribal groups between the east and the west. Again, just to name a few, the Huns, the Goths, and the Avars came from as far away as western Asia, central Asia, and China respectively in the fifth through the seventh centuries A.D. Indeed, the Avars from northern China and Mongolia were besieging Constantinople in 626 A.D., at the very moment Mohammed was a merchant in Arabia. Indeed, the Avars, by this siege, were one of the forces that weakened the Byzantines (there were many other, perhaps more important, forces) to the extent that most of the Byzantine mid-eastern empire fell relatively easily to the Muslims.

But let's give the writer the benefit of the doubt and say that the author meant that "During the Crusades, Islam and Christianity first met." This, of course, is also totally false.

Let us review the Muslim conquest. In 624, Mohammed led a raid for booty and plunder against a Meccan caravan, killing 70 Meccans for mere material gain. Between 630 A.D. and the death of Mohammed in 632 A.D., Muslims -- on at least one occasion led by Mohammed -- had conquered the bulk of western Arabia and southern Palestine through approximately a dozen separate invasions and bloody conquests. These conquests were in large part "Holy wars," putting the lie to another statement in the U.S. News article that proclaimed the Crusades "The First Holy War," as if the Christians had invented the concept of a holy war. After Mohammed's death in 632, the new Muslim caliph, Abu Bakr, launched Islam into almost 1,500 years of continual imperialist, colonialist, bloody conquest and subjugation of others through invasion and war, a role Islam continues to this very day.

You will note the string of adjectives and may have some objection to my using them. They are used because they are the absolute truth. Anyone denying them is a victim of PC thinking, ignorant of history, or lying to protect Islam. Let us take each word separately before we proceed further in our true history of the relationship between the Christian west and the Islamic east.

Imperialistic

The Muslim wars of imperialist conquest have been launched for almost 1,500 years against hundreds of nations, over millions of square miles (significantly larger than the British Empire at its peak). The lust for Muslim imperialist conquest stretched from southern France to the Philippines, from Austria to Nigeria, and from central Asia to New Guinea. This is the classic definition of imperialism -- "the policy and practice of seeking to dominate the economic and political affairs of weaker countries."

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