Give 'em Hell in a Hurry, Harry!

[Marc39]

It sure seems hey didn't give a damn about what madrasa agitprop currently would, or wouldn't have liked to be placed in the document. Life doesn't have a reset button, so, arabs should concentrate on getting a life and a job, instead.

Well, to be fair, one third of all Arabs and half of all Arab women are illiterate, according to the Arab League, making it hard for the sand rats to get a life and a job.

Hopefully, one day, their allah will make them less ignorant.

The literacy rate in Palestine for males and females is similar to first world, industrialized nations.

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948. Are you referring to another Palestine in outer space?

Looks like you're as illiterate as the Arabs.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Well, to be fair, one third of all Arabs and half of all Arab women are illiterate, according to the Arab League, making it hard for the sand rats to get a life and a job.

Hopefully, one day, their allah will make them less ignorant.

The literacy rate in Palestine for males and females is similar to first world, industrialized nations.

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948. Are you referring to another Palestine in outer space?

Looks like you're as illiterate as the Arabs.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

The 1949 UN armistice agreements clearly state that the area was still called Palestine and the it was surrounded by Palestinian borders.

Yes the 1949 armistice agreements.

 

[docmauser1]

Hmmm, they did not say the old Egyptian/Israeli international boundary.

It sure seems hey didn't give a damn about what madrasa agitprop currently would, or wouldn't have liked to be placed in the document. Life doesn't have a reset button, so, arabs should concentrate on getting a life and a job, instead.

Well, to be fair, one third of all Arabs and half of all Arab women are illiterate, according to the Arab League, making it hard for the sand rats to get a life and a job.

Well, that makes it easier for travelling madrasa commissars to educate them in virtues of murdering joos and plundering of the jovish property, of course.

Hopefully, one day, their allah will make them less ignorant.

And the world will have more of their "ideas" in the process.

 

[Marc39]

The literacy rate in Palestine for males and females is similar to first world, industrialized nations.

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948. Are you referring to another Palestine in outer space?

Looks like you're as illiterate as the Arabs.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

The 1949 UN armistice agreements clearly state that the area was still called Palestine and the it was surrounded by Palestinian borders.

Yes the 1949 armistice agreements.

The armistice was temporary and non-binding.

The Palestine Mandate establishing "Palestine" as the Jewish homeland is binding.

Now, you know.

 

[docmauser1]

The literacy rate in Palestine for males and females is similar to first world, industrialized nations.

Shouldn't they be kissing jovish arse for it, yet?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948. Are you referring to another Palestine in outer space?

Looks like you're as illiterate as the Arabs.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

The 1949 UN armistice agreements clearly state that the area was still called Palestine and the it was surrounded by Palestinian borders.

Yes the 1949 armistice agreements.

The armistice was temporary and non-binding.

The Palestine Mandate establishing "Palestine" as the Jewish homeland is binding.

Now, you know.

Palestine is the homeland of the Jews as it had always been.

Israel is a foreign entity that has destroyed the homeland of the Jews.

 

[Marc39]

The 1949 UN armistice agreements clearly state that the area was still called Palestine and the it was surrounded by Palestinian borders.

Yes the 1949 armistice agreements.

The armistice was temporary and non-binding.

The Palestine Mandate establishing "Palestine" as the Jewish homeland is binding.

Now, you know.

Palestine is the homeland of the Jews as it had always been.

Israel is a foreign entity that has destroyed the homeland of the Jews.

The correct historical geographic name of the land is Judea, from which "Jewish" is derived.

There are no references to "Palestine" in the Hebrew Bible.

"Palestine" was a European invention created by the Romans 1500 years after Jews lived there.

Muzzies are foreign entities originating from Arabia.

Your lesson for the day.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The armistice was temporary and non-binding.

The Palestine Mandate establishing "Palestine" as the Jewish homeland is binding.

Now, you know.

Palestine is the homeland of the Jews as it had always been.

Israel is a foreign entity that has destroyed the homeland of the Jews.

The correct historical geographic name of the land is Judea, from which "Jewish" is derived.

There are no references to "Palestine" in the Hebrew Bible.

"Palestine" was a European invention created by the Romans 1500 years after Jews lived there.

Muzzies are foreign entities originating from Arabia.

Your lesson for the day.

So? What is the relevance?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. None of them, as a religion, claim exclusive rights to Palestine. As a diverse group they do have exclusive rights to Palestine. They are the indigenous population. An important fact is that none of them, including the Jews, wanted a foreign takeover of their country.

This is not an Arab or Muslim versus Jew conflict. It is a Palestinians versus foreigners conflict. The Palestinians be they Muslims, Christians, or Jews have the legal and moral high ground. Palestine is their country. It does not belong to foreigners.

 

[Marc39]

Palestine is the homeland of the Jews as it had always been.

Israel is a foreign entity that has destroyed the homeland of the Jews.

The correct historical geographic name of the land is Judea, from which "Jewish" is derived.

There are no references to "Palestine" in the Hebrew Bible.

"Palestine" was a European invention created by the Romans 1500 years after Jews lived there.

Muzzies are foreign entities originating from Arabia.

Your lesson for the day.

So? What is the relevance?

Most with functioning brains understand the relevance. You'll just have to opt out.

 

[Marc39]

The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

Er, wrong, again, uneducated one.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Faith-Power-Religion-Politics-Middle/dp/019514421X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293299313&sr=1-1]Amazon.com: Faith and Power: Religion and Politics in the Middle East (9780195144215): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

Er, wrong, again, uneducated one.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Faith-Power-Religion-Politics-Middle/dp/019514421X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293299313&sr=1-1]Amazon.com: Faith and Power: Religion and Politics in the Middle East (9780195144215): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

Er, wrong again.

The Palestine of 1900 had a total population of c. 600,000. Of these, roughly 75% were Muslim Arabs, roughly 10% Christian Arabs, and the rest were Jews and others.

Table of Contents and Excerpt, Ayalon, Reading Palestine

 

[Marc39]

The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

Er, wrong, again, uneducated one.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Faith-Power-Religion-Politics-Middle/dp/019514421X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293299313&sr=1-1]Amazon.com: Faith and Power: Religion and Politics in the Middle East (9780195144215): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

Er, wrong again.

Table of Contents and Excerpt, Ayalon, Reading Palestine

[/QUOTE]Er, wrong, again.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

After the Ottoman conquest in 1516-17, Palestine was no longer used by Muslims, for whom it had never meant more than an administrative sub-district, and it had been forgotten even in that limited sense. In the final phase of this rule before the British conquest, Palestine was part of Beirut.

At first, the country of which Palestine was a part was felt to be Syria. In Ottoman times, that is, immediately before the coming of the British, Palestine had indeed been a part of a larger Syrian whole from which it was in no way distinguished whether by language, culture, education, administration, political allegiance, or any other significant respect.

The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Middle-East-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0684832801/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1288529772&sr=8-5]Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

Just so you know, since you're so utterly clueless, the author of the book you posted is not an historian. He's a politician.

In contrast, Dr. Bernard Lewis is the foremost Middle East historian of today, perhaps, of any time in history.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Er, wrong, again, uneducated one.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

Amazon.com: Faith and Power: Religion and Politics in the Middle East (9780195144215): Bernard Lewis: Books

Er, wrong again.

Er, wrong, again.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

At first, the country of which Palestine was a part was felt to be Syria. In Ottoman times, that is, immediately before the coming of the British, Palestine had indeed been a part of a larger Syrian whole from which it was in no way distinguished whether by language, culture, education, administration, political allegiance, or any other significant respect.

The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Middle-East-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0684832801/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1288529772&sr=8-5]Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

More useless smoke from Mr. Irrelevant.

 

[Marc39]

Er, wrong again.

Er, wrong, again.

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Middle-East-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0684832801/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1288529772&sr=8-5]Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

More useless smoke from Mr. Irrelevant.

Translation: I OWN You, as always.

Fetch my slippers, dog.

 

[docmauser1]

The 1949 UN armistice agreements clearly state that the area was still called Palestine and the it was surrounded by Palestinian borders.

Where in the text of, say, Israeli-Jordanian armistice agreement are "Palestinian borders" stated?

 

[Marc39]

The 1949 UN armistice agreements clearly state that the area was still called Palestine and the it was surrounded by Palestinian borders.

Where in the text of, say, Israeli-Jordanian armistice agreement are "Palestinian borders" stated?

Irrelevant. The armistice agreements were temporary and non-binding

Stephen Schwebel, Legal Scholar and Former President of the International Court of Justice...

The armistice agreements of 1949 expressly preserved the territorial claims of all parties and did not purport to establish definitive boundaries between them.

http://www.cambridge.org/gb/knowledge/isbn/item1145545/?site_locale=en_GB

 

[P F Tinmore]

Article IV

2. The basic purpose of the Armistice Demarcation Lines is to delineate the lines beyond which the armed forces of the respective Parties shall not move.

Article V

(d) In the sector from a point on the Dead Sea (MR 1925-0958) to the southernmost tip of Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall be determined by existing military positions as surveyed in March 1949 by United Nations observers, and shall run from north to south as delineated on map 1 in annex I to this Agreement.

The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949

Since most of the armistice lines between Israeli forces and Jordanian forces were inside Palestine, there was little reason to mention Palestine's borders. However, the border between the West Bank and Jordan have changed little if any from there definition in 1922. That is the original border between Palestine and Jordan.

 

[Marc39]

Article IV

2. The basic purpose of the Armistice Demarcation Lines is to delineate the lines beyond which the armed forces of the respective Parties shall not move.

Irrelevant. The armistice agreements were temporary and non-binding.

Stephen Schwebel, Legal Scholar and Former President of the International Court of Justice...

The armistice agreements of 1949 expressly preserved the territorial claims of all parties and did not purport to establish definitive boundaries between them.

http://www.cambridge.org/gb/knowledge/isbn/item1145545/?site_locale=en_GB


The only legally enforceable document is the Palestine Mandate establishing ALL of "Palestine" as the Jewish homeland.

Eugene Rostow, Legal Scholar and former Dean of the Yale Law School, Under Secretary of State in the Johnson administration, US State Dept Legal Advisor, Drafter of UN Res. 242 pertaining to Israeli land in the West Bank...

The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...

Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies


Your law lesson for the day.

 

[docmauser1]

Since most of the armistice lines between Israeli forces and Jordanian forces were inside Palestine, there was little reason to mention Palestine's borders.

Essentially meaning that, if something doesn't exist in the text, the arab propaganda will imagine it does and then will proceed touting it as fact.

However, the border between the West Bank and Jordan have changed little if any from there definition in 1922.

Which is the year, in which Churchill placed the hashemite tribe from the arabian peninsula within the borders of the mandate palestine. A big no-no for an arab agitprop to ever mention.

That is the original border between Palestine and Jordan.

There's no original border between Palestine and Jordan - Jordan sits inside the mandate palestine.