Glacier Bay Alaska Proves Climate Change Is Real

[luiza]

To Crock

Tell us how man is the cause of what’s occurred.
And continues to occur.

He is mentally blocked and until we have new brain surgery treatments there is nothing we can do with him .
He is Cherry Picker Numero Uno .

 

[Crick]

He is mentally blocked and until we have new brain surgery treatments there is nothing we can do with him .
He is Cherry Picker Numero Uno .

Are you talking about me or Weatherman2020?

 

[Crick]

Tell us how man is the cause of what’s occurred.
And continues to occur.

AGW does not claim that man is the cause of pre-industrial events in Glacier Bay. Where the fuck did you get the idea that it did?

 

[Crick]

You people are frauds

Another Ice Age?

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In what way? Time magazine is not a science journal.

 

[Crick]

Meaning that hollywood and the lib news media made it up to scare people and make money?

I don't think Hollywood had anything to do with it, but mainstream media is the source of almost all the published claims about an imminent ice age. The one scientist you see noted in such articles is Dr Paul Ehrlich. Ehrlich was an ecologist. He knew nothing of climate science or glaciology but he had a popular book and was a name the public would recognize.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't think Hollywood had anything to do with it, but mainstream media is the source of almost all the published claims about an imminent ice age. The one scientist you see noted in such articles is Dr Paul Ehrlich. Ehrlich was an ecologist. He knew nothing of climate science or glaciology but he had a popular book and was a name the public would recognize.

Hollywood picked up on the new ice age theme and did several movies about it

One staring liberal icon Paul Newman

Quintet (film) - Wikipedia

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The Ice Age hoax was short lived, to be replaced by the man-made global warming doomsday hoax

But hollywood is always part of these scams

 

[Crick]

Hollywood picked up on the new ice age theme and did several movies about it

Gosh, I must have missed them.

One staring liberal icon Paul Newman

Quintet (film) - Wikipedia

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I have never heard of this film.

The Ice Age hoax was short lived, to be replaced by the man-made global warming doomsday hoax

Neither were hoaxes. The first was bad science the second is quite real and perfectly good science.

But hollywood is always part of these scams

God are you stupid. Are they part of the Middle Earth scam? Part of the Dracula and Frankenstein scams? Part of the French Lieutenant's Woman scam? Part of the Out of Africa scam? Part of the On Golden Pond scam?

 

[Weatherman2020]

AGW does not claim that man is the cause of pre-industrial events in Glacier Bay. Where the fuck did you get the idea that it did?

Shitty spin, even for a doomsdayer.

 

[Crick]

Shitty spin, even for a doomsdayer.

We're still waiting for you to explain how Glacier Bay's history is a problem for AGW.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hollywood picked up on the new ice age theme and did several movies about it

One staring liberal icon Paul Newman

Quintet (film) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Ice Age hoax was short lived, to be replaced by the man-made global warming doomsday hoax

But hollywood is always part of these scams

Global cooling.
Oops.

Global warming.
Oops.

Climate change.

 

[Mac-7]

Neither were hoaxes. The first was bad science the second is quite real and perfectly good science.

The part about Doomsday is a hoax

 

[Crick]

Global cooling.
Oops.

Global warming.
Oops.

Climate change.

We're still waiting for you to explain how Glacier Bay's history is a problem for AGW - you know the topic of YOUR thread here.

 

[Crick]

The part about Doomsday is a hoax

A hoax by whom for what purpose? For Paul Ehrlich and a few magazines to make money? That's an ongoing process across all of capitalism.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Informing citizenry. Cuz science.


1970 – Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age – Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)

1970 – Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)

1970 – New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (Owosso Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)

1970 – Pollution’s 2-way ‘Freeze’ On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)

1970 – Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)

1970 – Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)

1970 – Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)

1971 – Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (The Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)

1971 – Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)

1971 – Pollution May Bring Ice Age – Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)

1971 – U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)

1971 – Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)

1971 – New Ice Age Coming – It’s Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)

1971 – Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)

1971 – Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)

1972 – Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)

1972 – Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)

1972 – There’s a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)

1972 – Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)

1972 – British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)

1972 – Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (Portsmouth Times, September 11, 1972)

1972 – New Ice Age Slipping Over North (Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972)

1972 – Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, September 12, 1972)

1972 – British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)

1972 – Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)

1972 – Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)

1972 – Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters – Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)

1973 – The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)

1973 – ‘Man-made Ice Age’ Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)

1973 – Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (Herald-Journal, June 28, 1973)

1973 – Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)

1973 – Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way(The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)

1974 – Ominous Changes in the World’s Weather (PDF) (Fortune, February 1974)

1974 – Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming? (Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)

1974 – New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)

1974 – Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)

1974 – 2 Scientists Think ‘Little’ Ice Age Near (The Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)

1974 – Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (The Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)

1974 – Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)

1974 – Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)

1974 – Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, December 4, 1974)

1974 – Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, December 5, 1974)

1974 – More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, December 5, 1974)

1974 – Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 5, 1974)

** 1974 CIA Report on climate change (or here) **

1975 – Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)

1975 – Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Science News, March 1, 1975)

1975 – B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (The Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade(Youngstown Vindicator, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)

1975 – New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, March 2, 1975)

1975 – There’s Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, March 3, 1975)

1975 – The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (The Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)

1975 – The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)

1975 – Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)

1975 – Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)

1975 – Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)

1975 – In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)

1975 – Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 11, 1975)

1976 – The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book](Lowell Ponte, 1976)

1976 – Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)

1976 – Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)

1976 – It’s Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)

1976 – Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)

1977 – Blizzard – What Happens if it Doesn’t Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)

1977 – The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)

1977 – The Ice Age Cometh… (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)

1977 – The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)

1977 – Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)

1977 – Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)

1977 – We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)

1978 – The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)

1978 – Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age (The Deseret News, January 2, 1978)

1978 – Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)

1978 – Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)

1978 – Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead(Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)

1978 – Winters Will Get Colder, ‘we’re Entering Little Ice Age’(Ellensburg Daily Record, January 10, 1978)

1978 – Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder (Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)

1978 – It’s Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, January 17, 1978)

1978 – Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)

1978 – Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, February 13, 1978)

1978 – Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1978)

1978 – The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)

1978 – An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)

1979 – A Choice of Catastrophes – The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)

1979 – The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)

1979 – Ice Age Building Up (Ellensburg Daily Record, June 5, 1979)

1979 – Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age (Spokane Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)

1979 – Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)

1979 – Get Ready to Freeze (Spokane Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)

1979 – New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

 

[Mac-7]

A hoax by whom for what purpose? For Paul Ehrlich and a few magazines to make money? That's an ongoing process across all of capitalism.

Money

Its means more funding for climate ambulance chasers and activists like greta thunberg and algore

 

[Darkwind]

We have never dealt with anything of this magnitude. This will be far beyond the MWP or the LIA. Just sea level rise has the potential to be the greatest human disaster since the Black Death.

In one sentence you tell us you are confident we can deal with it and in the next you tell us there is nothing we can do. Did the contradiction not strike you as you wrote that?

We know what is causing this problem and we are addressing it: eliminate GHG emissions.

You and your cause are not eliminating anything.

The US is the only nation that takes the nuttery that mankind can do anything about the natural climate cycles.

Mankind will adapt to a warming planet, given that it has been much warmer in the past than the current climate.

You clowns would kill billions of people chasing an endeavor that is doomed to failure.

For that alone, you should be charged with crimes against humanity.

 

[Crick]

You and your cause are not eliminating anything.

900 GW of wind turbine capacity, 1,185 GW of solar capacity and 26 million EVs on the world's roads say you don't know what the fuck you're talkling about.

The US is the only nation that takes the nuttery that mankind can do anything about the natural climate cycles.

That is false. Acceptance of AGW and the view that it is a threat with which we must deal is significantly higher outside the US than in. So, again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Mankind will adapt to a warming planet, given that it has been much warmer in the past than the current climate.

It has NOT been "much warmer" at any point since well before the appearance of homo sapiens. Again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

You clowns would kill billions of people chasing an endeavor that is doomed to failure.

And how will we do that?

For that alone, you should be charged with crimes against humanity.

You think we should be charged with crimes for acts you think we will commit? You've already committed the crime of willful ignorance, so... you first.

 

[Crick]

It refutes that it is man made. AGW itself is obvious, it has happened in 3 mass events with absolute evidence.

This must have slipped by you but the A in AGW is for anthropogenic, which means, man-made. That the world has been warm in the past does not refute AGW. As poster Mamooth tells us, the same logic would tell us that because forest fires occurred in the pre-human past, humans cannot cause forest fires. Please tell me you understand.

However, today, all too often when people say AGW, it is synonymous with man made global warming.

No... say it isn't true. Let's try this again. AGW stands for Anthropogenic Global Warming. The word "anthropgenic" means "man-made".

I am not convinced, at all, that current trends are any cause for concern.

Then you've not thought about it long enough.

The earth has has such trends, equally as quick, numerous times.

Changes in CO2 or temperature as rapid as what we are currently experiencing are EXCEEDINGLY rare in Earth's history. THAT is the problem. If the world warmed up 5C over 20,000 years, no one would notice or care. If we do it over a century or two we've got a serious problem on our hands.

It should also be noted that mammals began their existence, and absolutely thrived during one of earth's warmest periods.

Where temperatures changed at a tiny fraction of the rate at which they are changing today.

 

[Darkwind]

900 GW of wind turbine capacity, 1,185 GW of solar capacity and 26 million EVs on the world's roads say you don't know what the fuck you're talkling about.

That is false. Acceptance of AGW and the view that it is a threat with which we must deal is significantly higher outside the US than in. So, again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

It has NOT been "much warmer" at any point since well before the appearance of homo sapiens. Again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

And how will we do that?

You think we should be charged with crimes for acts you think we will commit? You've already committed the crime of willful ignorance, so... you first.

Wow, you stupid fuck!

The only nations getting fleeced by climate change are a few Western nations, and many of those are balking at the requirements; meanwhile, the heaviest carbon polluters, India and China, are giving you the bird while they fuck your favorite politicians in the ass.

You are a liar, plain and simple.

Suppose you think that the quality of life has lifted billions out of poverty and death just from the availability of cheap energy. In that case, you are not only criminal but insanely so.

Just eliminate fossil fuels and watch the whole world burn the dead bodies of starvation.

 

[fncceo]

Go fuck yourself.