Global warming in action....right before our eyes

[NoNukes]

I thought global warming causes fires and droughts.

Can you pick a story and stick with it?

We never had floods before gullible warming

You consistently show your ignorance.

 

[Old Rocks]

And your proof of that is what, kiddo? Perhaps you should learn not the parrot the dumbest adults in the room.

The fact that ice sheets are the thickest they've ever been, and satellite data shows no abnormal global increase in heat for 17 years... also that to get the results they have been recently, they've had to edit the data to show heat... though, as far as the editing goes, whether you believe the scientists about having to edit it for 'science reasons' or if they're just tampering because they aren't getting what they want is totally up to you.

The RSS satellite dataset shows no global warming at all for 213 months from August 1996 to April 2014. That is more than half the entire 423-month satellite record. The fastest centennial warming rate was in Central England from 1663-1762, at 0.9 Cº per century – before the industrial revolution began, it literally couldn't have been our fault. The global warming trend since 1900 is equivalent to 0.8 Cº per century, which is well within natural variability and has nothing to do with us. The fastest warming trend lasting ten years or more occurred over the 40 years from 1694-1733 in Central England, which was equivalent to 4.3 Cº per century. Since 1950, when a human influence on global temperature first became theoretically possible, the global warming trend is equivalent to 1.2 Cº per century, and the fastest warming rate, lasting ten years or more, since 1950 occurred over the 33 years from 1974 to 2006, it was equivalent to 2.0 Cº per century. In 1990, the IPCC’s mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was equivalent to 3.5 Cº per century. The global warming trend since 1990, when the IPCC wrote its first report, is equivalent to 1.4 Cº per century – two-fifths of what the IPCC had then predicted. In 2013 the IPCC’s new mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was for warming at a rate equivalent to 1.7 Cº per century – just half its 1990 prediction. Though the IPCC has cut its near-term warming prediction, it has not cut its centennial warming prediction of 3.7 Cº warming to 2100 on business as usual. The IPCC’s prediction of 3.7 Cº warming by 2100 is more than twice the greatest rate of warming lasting more than ten years that has been measured since 1950. The IPCC’s 3.7 Cº-by-2100 prediction is more than three times the observed real-world warming trend since we might in theory have begun influencing it in 1950. Since 1 January 2001, the dawn of the new millennium, the warming trend on the dataset of five major datasets is zero – 0.0 Cº per century. No warming for 13 years 3 months.

It's not happening, period.

You're welcome.

RSS, eh. OK, RSS it is. And I'll even post a link so that you can check.

Climate Analysis | Remote Sensing Systems

So we can see that the water vapor is increasing.

That is pretty definate warming.

Definate cooling in the stratosphere, exactly as predicted.

Now there has always been a gap between the satellite measured troposphere temperatures, and that measured at surface systems.

I did just open my post with the fact that they're modifying the received temperatures, and that whether or not you trust them is up to you. They gave a reason for it, don't recall what it was. I also pointed out several other things you have yet to address. Also, you show that the north pole is warming, but according to NASA, the ice there is at its thickest since the 1970s. If it actually were warming, they'd be thinning.

Kiddo, have you taken any college level science courses yet? High school level? And why do you post such obvious bullshit?
The ice is not only thinning, it is radically reducing in volume.

PIOMAS April 2016

According to NASA, they're actually getting thicker. Receded, like, a tiny bit... then went back to where it was before.

Now that is total sea ice area. And it shows a definate downward trend. Learn to read graphs, failure to be able to read a simple graph won't fly in any science course.

Polar Sea Ice Cap and Snow - Cryosphere Today

 

[Pumpkin Row]

The fact that ice sheets are the thickest they've ever been, and satellite data shows no abnormal global increase in heat for 17 years... also that to get the results they have been recently, they've had to edit the data to show heat... though, as far as the editing goes, whether you believe the scientists about having to edit it for 'science reasons' or if they're just tampering because they aren't getting what they want is totally up to you.

The RSS satellite dataset shows no global warming at all for 213 months from August 1996 to April 2014. That is more than half the entire 423-month satellite record. The fastest centennial warming rate was in Central England from 1663-1762, at 0.9 Cº per century – before the industrial revolution began, it literally couldn't have been our fault. The global warming trend since 1900 is equivalent to 0.8 Cº per century, which is well within natural variability and has nothing to do with us. The fastest warming trend lasting ten years or more occurred over the 40 years from 1694-1733 in Central England, which was equivalent to 4.3 Cº per century. Since 1950, when a human influence on global temperature first became theoretically possible, the global warming trend is equivalent to 1.2 Cº per century, and the fastest warming rate, lasting ten years or more, since 1950 occurred over the 33 years from 1974 to 2006, it was equivalent to 2.0 Cº per century. In 1990, the IPCC’s mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was equivalent to 3.5 Cº per century. The global warming trend since 1990, when the IPCC wrote its first report, is equivalent to 1.4 Cº per century – two-fifths of what the IPCC had then predicted. In 2013 the IPCC’s new mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was for warming at a rate equivalent to 1.7 Cº per century – just half its 1990 prediction. Though the IPCC has cut its near-term warming prediction, it has not cut its centennial warming prediction of 3.7 Cº warming to 2100 on business as usual. The IPCC’s prediction of 3.7 Cº warming by 2100 is more than twice the greatest rate of warming lasting more than ten years that has been measured since 1950. The IPCC’s 3.7 Cº-by-2100 prediction is more than three times the observed real-world warming trend since we might in theory have begun influencing it in 1950. Since 1 January 2001, the dawn of the new millennium, the warming trend on the dataset of five major datasets is zero – 0.0 Cº per century. No warming for 13 years 3 months.

It's not happening, period.

You're welcome.

RSS, eh. OK, RSS it is. And I'll even post a link so that you can check.

Climate Analysis | Remote Sensing Systems

So we can see that the water vapor is increasing.

That is pretty definate warming.

Definate cooling in the stratosphere, exactly as predicted.

Now there has always been a gap between the satellite measured troposphere temperatures, and that measured at surface systems.

I did just open my post with the fact that they're modifying the received temperatures, and that whether or not you trust them is up to you. They gave a reason for it, don't recall what it was. I also pointed out several other things you have yet to address. Also, you show that the north pole is warming, but according to NASA, the ice there is at its thickest since the 1970s. If it actually were warming, they'd be thinning.

Kiddo, have you taken any college level science courses yet? High school level? And why do you post such obvious bullshit?
The ice is not only thinning, it is radically reducing in volume.

PIOMAS April 2016

According to NASA, they're actually getting thicker. Receded, like, a tiny bit... then went back to where it was before.

Now that is total sea ice area. And it shows a definate downward trend. Learn to read graphs, failure to be able to read a simple graph won't fly in any science course.

Polar Sea Ice Cap and Snow - Cryosphere Today

I read the article and didn't bother check the graph before linking it, it turned out the link was to show the predictions instead of the actual collected data. My bad. The second page pointed out that there aren't any available graphs for the current ice level.

 

[Old Rocks]

RSS, eh. OK, RSS it is. And I'll even post a link so that you can check.

Climate Analysis | Remote Sensing Systems

So we can see that the water vapor is increasing.

That is pretty definate warming.

Definate cooling in the stratosphere, exactly as predicted.

Now there has always been a gap between the satellite measured troposphere temperatures, and that measured at surface systems.

I did just open my post with the fact that they're modifying the received temperatures, and that whether or not you trust them is up to you. They gave a reason for it, don't recall what it was. I also pointed out several other things you have yet to address. Also, you show that the north pole is warming, but according to NASA, the ice there is at its thickest since the 1970s. If it actually were warming, they'd be thinning.

Kiddo, have you taken any college level science courses yet? High school level? And why do you post such obvious bullshit?
The ice is not only thinning, it is radically reducing in volume.

PIOMAS April 2016

According to NASA, they're actually getting thicker. Receded, like, a tiny bit... then went back to where it was before.

Now that is total sea ice area. And it shows a definate downward trend. Learn to read graphs, failure to be able to read a simple graph won't fly in any science course.

Polar Sea Ice Cap and Snow - Cryosphere Today

I read the article and didn't bother check the graph before linking it, it turned out the link was to show the predictions instead of the actual collected data. My bad. The second page pointed out that there aren't any available graphs for the current ice level.

OK, you are young, and still learning,. But in any of the science courses that I have taken in college, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and Geology, such an error would earn an F and considerable disdain from the instructor.

Look, I see you repeating, blindly, a lot of bullshit from the right wing nut jobs. Here is some real information from the American Institute of Physics, the largest scientific society in the world. It outlines the history of the investigation of GHGs, and what we are seeing at present.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As a result of human caused global warming, the atmospheric and the oceans (and lakes, rivers and streams) are warmer.....warmer air can hold more water vapor......warmer oceans and other bodies of water tend to evaporate more water faster.....and now, water vapor levels have increased so much, rain and snowstorms can drop much larger quantities of water than before the air warmed and water vapor levels increased.

Although the denier cultists will undoubtedly chant that there have always been heavy rain and floods and massive blizzards, the plain fact is that all of those are becoming more intense and destructive because of the greater amount of water held in the air......which results in this example of global warming driven climate disruptions in action:
"...the torrential flooding after as much as 8-10 inches of rain fell in six to eight hours in parts of the state on Thursday", according to the National Weather Service. This amount of rain in such a short time is likely a "one-in-a-thousand-year event," the weather service said.

At least 26 dead as historic floods sweep West Virginia
USA TODAY
Doug Stanglin and Doyle Rice,
June 25, 2016
(excerpts)
The bodies of three more victims of West Virginia's historic flooding were found overnight Saturday, according to county authorities, raising the death toll to 26 from torrential rains and high water that has destroyed more than 100 homes, washed out scores of roads and bridges and knocked out power to tens of thousands of people. On Saturday, President Obama declared a major disaster for West Virginia and ordered federal aid to supplement state and local recovery efforts in the counties of Greenbrier, Kanawha and Nicholas.

...At least 23 others, including an 8-year-old boy who was wading in a foot of water, were killed in the torrential flooding after as much as 8-10 inches of rain fell in six to eight hours in parts of the state on Thursday, according to the National Weather Service. This amount of rain in such a short time is likely a "one-in-a-thousand-year event," the weather service said. The heavy rains and rising water swamped towns, inundated a two-century old resort and trapped 500 people in a shopping center when a bridge was washed out. The storm also knocked out power to 66,000 West Virginians, and forced the shut off of gas in the town of White Sulphur Springs, Tomblin said.

Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin told reporters Friday that damage is widespread and devastating. Saying search and rescue missions are still a top priority, Tomblin issued a state of emergency for 44 counties and deployed 150 members of the National Guard to help emergency responders. The Governer said 60 roads were closed, many of them destroyed, bridges were knocked out, and homes were burned down and washed off foundations. Tens of thousands of people were without power, and several roads were impassable, the Associated Press reported. One dramatic video posted on the WVMetro news website showed a burning house floating down Howard's Creek in White Sulphur Springs.

FLOOD EMERGENCY: Clendenin,WV can only be accessed by helicopter.

As a result of human caused global warming, the atmospheric and the oceans (and lakes, rivers and streams) are warmer

How much warmer?
How do you know?

NASA Earth Science News Team

Beaufort Sea surface temperatures where Canada's Mackenzie River discharges into the Arctic Ocean, measured by NASA's MODIS instrument. The top image is from June 14, 2012. In the bottom image (July 5, 2012), warm river waters had broken through a shoreline sea ice barrier to enhance sea ice melt. Image Credit: NASA
The heat from warm river waters draining into the Arctic Ocean is contributing to the melting of Arctic sea ice each summer, a new NASA study finds.


A research team led by Son Nghiem of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., used satellite data to measure the surface temperature of the waters discharging from a Canadian river into the icy Beaufort Sea during the summer of 2012. They observed a sudden influx of warm river waters into the sea that rapidly warmed the surface layers of the ocean, enhancing the melting of sea ice. A paper describing the study is now published online in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.




NASA MODIS movie from June 14, 2012, shows a blue band of sea ice stuck to the Mackenzie River shoreline. The map fades, revealing the seafloor depth below. The band of stuck sea ice closely follows the highlighted 25-meter-depth contour line. The seafloor topography helps delay river discharge. Image Credit: NASA/International Bathymetric Chart of the Arctic OceanSee animation
This Arctic process contrasts starkly with those that occur in Antarctica, a frozen continent without any large rivers. The sea ice cover in the Southern Ocean surrounding Antarctica has been relatively stable, while Arctic sea ice has been declining rapidly over the past decade.


“River discharge is a key factor contributing to the high sensitivity of Arctic sea ice to climate change,” said Nghiem. “We found that rivers are effective conveyers of heat across immense watersheds in the Northern Hemisphere. These watersheds undergo continental warming in summertime, unleashing an enormous amount of energy into the Arctic Ocean, and enhancing sea ice melt. You don’t have this in Antarctica.”

The team said the impacts of these warm river waters are increasing due to three factors. First, the overall volume of water discharged from rivers into the Arctic Ocean has increased. Second, rivers are getting warmer as their watersheds (drainage basins) heat up. And third, Arctic sea ice cover is becoming thinner and more fragmented, making it more vulnerable to rapid melt. In addition, as river heating contributes to earlier and greater loss of the Arctic’s reflective sea ice cover in summer, the amount of solar heat absorbed into the ocean increases, causing even more sea ice to melt.

Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Warm rivers play role in Arctic sea ice melt

Do you want more?

I don't see anything breaking out the natural warming versus the human caused warming.

 

[LaDexter]

The theory of Global Warming included heat "rising," because "rising" means going "up" to the Arctic. It must mean that....

because Antarctic Sea Ice is growing...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The theory of Global Warming included heat "rising," because "rising" means going "up" to the Arctic. It must mean that....

because Antarctic Sea Ice is growing...

The theory of Global Warming included heat "rising," because "rising" means going "up" to the Arctic.

That's not what "heat rising" means.

 

[Old Rocks]

Earth's Energy Imbalance: Confirmation and Implications

1. James Hansen1,2,*,
2. Larissa Nazarenko1,2,
3. Reto Ruedy3,
4. Makiko Sato1,2,
5. Josh Willis4,
6. Anthony Del Genio1,5,
7. Dorothy Koch1,2,
8. Andrew Lacis1,5,
9. Ken Lo3,
10. Surabi Menon6,
11. Tica Novakov6,
12. Judith Perlwitz1,2,
13. Gary Russell1,
14. Gavin A. Schmidt1,2,
15. Nicholas Tausnev3

Abstract
Our climate model, driven mainly by increasing human-made greenhouse gases and aerosols, among other forcings, calculates that Earth is now absorbing 0.85 ± 0.15 watts per square meter more energy from the Sun than it is emitting to space. This imbalance is confirmed by precise measurements of increasing ocean heat content over the past 10 years. Implications include (i) the expectation of additional global warming of about 0.6°C without further change of atmospheric composition; (ii) the confirmation of the climate system's lag in responding to forcings, implying the need for anticipatory actions to avoid any specified level of climate change; and (iii) the likelihood of acceleration of ice sheet disintegration and sea level rise.

There you go.

 

[Old Rocks]

An update on Earth's energy balance in light of the latest global observations

• Graeme L. Stephens,
• Juilin Li,
• Martin Wild,
• Carol Anne Clayson,
• Norman Loeb,
• Seiji Kato,
• Tristan L'Ecuyer,
• Paul W. Stackhouse Jr,
• Matthew Lebsock
• & Timothy Andrews

• Affiliations
• Corresponding author

Nature Geoscience

5,

691–696

(2012)

doi:10.1038/ngeo1580
Received

08 November 2011
Accepted

13 August 2012
Published online

23 September 2012


Abstract

• Abstract•
• References•
• Author information•
• Supplementary information

Climate change is governed by changes to the global energy balance. At the top of the atmosphere, this balance is monitored globally by satellite sensors that provide measurements of energy flowing to and from Earth. By contrast, observations at the surface are limited mostly to land areas. As a result, the global balance of energy fluxes within the atmosphere or at Earth's surface cannot be derived directly from measured fluxes, and is therefore uncertain. This lack of precise knowledge of surface energy fluxes profoundly affects our ability to understand how Earth's climate responds to increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases. In light of compilations of up-to-date surface and satellite data, the surface energy balance needs to be revised. Specifically, the longwave radiation received at the surface is estimated to be significantly larger, by between 10 and 17 Wm−2, than earlier model-based estimates. Moreover, the latest satellite observations of global precipitation indicate that more precipitation is generated than previously thought. This additional precipitation is sustained by more energy leaving the surface by evaporation — that is, in the form of latent heat flux — and thereby offsets much of the increase in longwave flux to the surface.

Pretty definate numbers here.

 

[Old Rocks]

The theory of Global Warming included heat "rising," because "rising" means going "up" to the Arctic. It must mean that....

because Antarctic Sea Ice is growing...

Anarctic sea ice slightly below normal at present.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

 

[RollingThunder]

A follow-up to the OP.

Cleanup Begins After Nearly 1 in 1,000 Year Flood Event Kills 23, Leaves Thousands Homeless in West Virginia
The Weather Channel - weather.com
By Eric Chaney and Sean Breslin
Jun 28 2016
(excerpts)
More heavy rainfall arrived in soggy West Virginia on Monday, bringing additional precipitation and flooding to a region that's dealing with tragedy and a prolonged cleanup. The widespread flooding killed 23, left thousands homeless and prompted Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin to declare a federal disaster. According to the National Weather Service, "extremely rare amounts of rainfall" swamped entire areas of the state, washing out roadways, flooding and destroying structures and cutting off power to thousands. "Return period data suggest this would be nearly a 1 in a thousand year event," the NWS said in a statement.

Thousands of homes and businesses were damaged or destroyed when up to 9 inches of rain fell in a short span, causing perhaps the worst flooding West Virginia has seen. President Barack Obama signed a major disaster declaration Saturday, allowing federal money to be used to help individuals with emergency medical support, housing and a number of other immediate needs. Some relief workers who have provided aid during other natural disasters say this event is as bad as anything they've ever seen. "It parallels Katrina," Cindy Chamberlain, who oversees a donation center in Rainelle, told the Associated Press. "It is that bad."

(MORE: At Least 235 People Have Been Killed By Flooding in the U.S. in Nearly 18 Months)

We can expect to see a lot more extreme weather events similar to this throughout the Summer and Fall.....just in time for the election, when the American people are going to KNOW that the Repukingcon global warming/climate change deniers are insane stooges for the fossil fuel industry (who are still making huge profits selling the stuff that is causing the warming and these destructive events).

The Republicon Party Is in its death throes. The T'Rump is just a symptom of their insanity and corruption.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And the retard chorus spews more deranged nonsense in the face of the evidence that they are deluded, confused, anti-science, crackpot cultists.

Again, if you cultists were as rational and grounded in reality as the Heavens Gate or Jonestown cults, we might be able to communicate with you. Alas, you have utterly no grasp on reality and spend your days in Gaia filled fairy tales.

Note the drooling retard who posted the OP. This insane cultist post that his goddess is working "right before our eyes." But does the snivling little moron offer this amazing proof that his religion IZ TWO the real faith?

Fuck no, we just get the same tired bullshit that his church chants incessantly. Not a shred of evidence, just the usual, self-serving rationalizations of weather patterns.

You are no different that the fool with the "End is NEAR" sign who wanders around shrieking at light posts to REPENT.

 

[boedicca]

I thought global warming causes fires and droughts.

Can you pick a story and stick with it?

We never had floods before gullible warming

The poor loons can't tell the difference between Weather and real Climate Change.

 

[RollingThunder]

As a result of human caused global warming, the atmospheric and the oceans (and lakes, rivers and streams) are warmer.....warmer air can hold more water vapor......warmer oceans and other bodies of water tend to evaporate more water faster.....and now, water vapor levels have increased so much, rain and snowstorms can drop much larger quantities of water than before the air warmed and water vapor levels increased.

Although the denier cultists will undoubtedly chant that there have always been heavy rain and floods and massive blizzards, the plain fact is that all of those are becoming more intense and destructive because of the greater amount of water held in the air......which results in this example of global warming driven climate disruptions in action:
"...the torrential flooding after as much as 8-10 inches of rain fell in six to eight hours in parts of the state on Thursday", according to the National Weather Service. This amount of rain in such a short time is likely a "one-in-a-thousand-year event," the weather service said.

At least 26 dead as historic floods sweep West Virginia
USA TODAY
Doug Stanglin and Doyle Rice,
June 25, 2016
(excerpts)
The bodies of three more victims of West Virginia's historic flooding were found overnight Saturday, according to county authorities, raising the death toll to 26 from torrential rains and high water that has destroyed more than 100 homes, washed out scores of roads and bridges and knocked out power to tens of thousands of people. On Saturday, President Obama declared a major disaster for West Virginia and ordered federal aid to supplement state and local recovery efforts in the counties of Greenbrier, Kanawha and Nicholas.

...At least 23 others, including an 8-year-old boy who was wading in a foot of water, were killed in the torrential flooding after as much as 8-10 inches of rain fell in six to eight hours in parts of the state on Thursday, according to the National Weather Service. This amount of rain in such a short time is likely a "one-in-a-thousand-year event," the weather service said. The heavy rains and rising water swamped towns, inundated a two-century old resort and trapped 500 people in a shopping center when a bridge was washed out. The storm also knocked out power to 66,000 West Virginians, and forced the shut off of gas in the town of White Sulphur Springs, Tomblin said.

Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin told reporters Friday that damage is widespread and devastating. Saying search and rescue missions are still a top priority, Tomblin issued a state of emergency for 44 counties and deployed 150 members of the National Guard to help emergency responders. The Governer said 60 roads were closed, many of them destroyed, bridges were knocked out, and homes were burned down and washed off foundations. Tens of thousands of people were without power, and several roads were impassable, the Associated Press reported. One dramatic video posted on the WVMetro news website showed a burning house floating down Howard's Creek in White Sulphur Springs.

FLOOD EMERGENCY: Clendenin,WV can only be accessed by helicopter.

Sooooo, I guess the great flood of 1862 that turned the entire Central Valley of California into a lake didn't happen.

As I said in the OP....Although the denier cultists will undoubtedly chant that there have always been heavy rain and floods and massive blizzards, the plain fact is that all of those are becoming more intense and destructive because of the greater amount of water held in the air...

And the walleyedretard pops up with another moronic 'straw-man' argument. I guess ol' walleyed is a retarded troll!

The level of hyperbole, and sheer outright bullshit you spew is amazing to behold.

And there you go again, walleyed, talking to yourself like a moron.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[

The poor loons can't tell the difference between Weather and real Climate Change.

The poor loons can't come to grips with the fact that across 4.7 billion years, the ONLY constant to the climate of this planet has been change.

These insane cultists are truly convinced that they have tapped into a higher power that will allow them to control the climate, if only they can force others to obey the dictates of their religion and forgo knowledge in favor of primitive servitude. Their tepid goddess tells them that if we live in the forests as unthinking beasts, if we turn from our carbon sins of knowledge and technology, then Gaia will forgive us and stop the warming trend that has gone on for the last 400 years.

They are simply insane, less rational than the Jonestown cultists.

 

[boedicca]

[

The poor loons can't tell the difference between Weather and real Climate Change.

The poor loons can't come to grips with the fact that across 4.7 billion years, the ONLY constant to the climate of this planet has been change.

These insane cultists are truly convinced that they have tapped into a higher power that will allow them to control the climate, if only they can force others to obey the dictates of their religion and forgo knowledge in favor of primitive servitude. Their tepid goddess tells them that if we live in the forests as unthinking beasts, if we turn from our carbon sins of knowledge and technology, then Gaia will forgive us and stop the warming trend that has gone on for the last 400 years.

They are simply insane, less rational than the Jonestown cultists.

Throughout the existence of humanity, charlatans and power-mongers have used the Thunder Gods or some other Imaginary Threat to foster fear among The People...with the agenda of controlling and extracting tribute from them. AGW is just a 21st Century Thunder God.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I thought global warming causes fires and droughts.

Can you pick a story and stick with it?

We never had floods before gullible warming

You consistently show your ignorance.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good fear mongering.....eh?


.

 

[mamooth]

I did just open my post with the fact that they're modifying the received temperatures, and that whether or not you trust them is up to you.

Yes, by making the past look warmer, and thus making the current warming look smaller. That simple fact destroys the basis of the denier cult's primary conspiracy theory, so they simply lie big and often by pretending the exact opposite of reality is true.

You're getting talking points from WUWT. Understand that WUWT is a pack of kooks, fraudsters, authoritarian thugs and paid shills, always raving about the VastSecretGlobalSocialistPlot. Whether you trust them is up to you. Just ask yourself this. What's more likely?

A. A vast secret global conspiracy composed of millions of people exists, and only a tiny handful of far right-wing political extremists understands the RealTruth.

B. Deniers have it wrong.

 

[RollingThunder]

Why haven't the global warming fires dried up the floods

Listen,

Global warming causes extremes within the short term weather pattern. One area of our planet could during a period of time have stronger ridges of high pressure = more extreme droughts under them, while other areas will have the extreme rain. Learn the subject as you don't seem to understand it very well at all. There's a reason one area has droughts but another can be have record rainfall, and both can happen at the same time on our planet based on the meteorological setup.

Especially causes extreme short term weather patterns when you are spraying nano-particulate metals into the upper atmosphere and zapping them with ionispheric heaters and that is a fact. Consider yourself "schooled".

More of the DumbSchmuck's crackpot conspiracy theory bullshit.

Consider yourself "retarded"!

 

[RollingThunder]

Don't let facts get in the way of a good fear mongering.....eh?

Your denier cult motto is "Don't let facts get in the way of being a good rightwingnut reality-denying nutjob".