Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

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In such cases, it's the AG who signs one.

Capo Holder recused himself. It was a sub-Capo who signed them. There are questions whether they were even submitted to a FISA judge.

FISA is required for surveillance, like wiretapping phones. Unless other information is revealed about the gov't monitoring actual phone calls, FISA wouldn't be applicable in this case since the gov't was only looking for phone records, not pursuing surveillance of phone calls.
 
FISA is required for surveillance, like wiretapping phones. Unless other information is revealed about the gov't monitoring actual phone calls, FISA wouldn't be applicable in this case since the gov't was only looking for phone records, not pursuing surveillance of phone calls.

Then the concept of a warrant is an absurdity. The DoJ grants the DoJ a warrant to do whatever the fuck the DoJ wants to do?

Now THAT is some checks and balances....

So what the sub-Capo did was issue subpoenas - no warrants were involved. Ergo, this is IDENTICAL to what you of the left SCREAMED about Bush doing....

Alas, there is no hypocrisy like demopocrisy.
 
FISA is required for surveillance, like wiretapping phones. Unless other information is revealed about the gov't monitoring actual phone calls, FISA wouldn't be applicable in this case since the gov't was only looking for phone records, not pursuing surveillance of phone calls.

Then the concept of a warrant is an absurdity. The DoJ grants the DoJ a warrant to do whatever the fuck the DoJ wants to do?

Now THAT is some checks and balances....

So what the sub-Capo did was issue subpoenas - no warrants were involved. Ergo, this is IDENTICAL to what you of the left SCREAMED about Bush doing....

Alas, there is no hypocrisy like demopocrisy.

You've already proven that you don't know what you're talking about. Hence, I predict you could get your own conservative talk show on AM radio. The only question is whether you would be any good at selling gold coins and/or get rich schemes about how to flip houses.
 
You've already proven that you don't know what you're talking about. Hence, I predict you could get your own conservative talk show on AM radio. The only question is whether you would be any good at selling gold coins and/or get rich schemes about how to flip houses.

Free yourself from der tar baby before making such pronouncements.
 
Weren't the phone records obtained AFTER a subpoena was issued?

Yet, for some reason, conservatives have a problem with that despite the fact that they didn't have a problem with Bush authorizing wiretaps without a FISA court warrant?

Could someone explain that to me?

have you seen a subpoena? Only speculation on who may have signed off on one.

In such cases, it's the AG who signs one.

Damned well better not be. Only judges and grand juries can sign subpoenas.
 
BOOOOOOOSSSHHHH!

Hmmm, sounds kind of hollow.

I think you'll need more to save the toddler in chief.

Stop with the deflection. If the press is in tank for Obama, it's hard to explain why he's received much more criticism for doing the same things Bush did.

Except he didnt. Well, he did some of the same things. Gitmo? The thing that libs bashed Bush for and Obama has continued. Afghanistan? Bush got bashed for winning, Obama gets kudos for losing. Iraq, ditto. Drones, ditto.
Yes, Bush got attacked for doing what Obama gets praised for doing.

He absolutely has. He's being bashed over this IRS story, when Bush was actually supported by the press when he did the same thing. He's being bashed over the AP story, even though most media outlets didn't cover even greater excesses under Bush. It's also absolutely absurd to blame Obama for GITMO staying open when it's your party that's keeping it open (if you think back to 2009, they filibustered the provision that would have provided funding to closing the facility).
 
This situation shows pefectly the hypocrisy of the Leftytoons and the stupidity of the Rightyloons.
 
It will be interesting to see how AG Holder spins THIS one.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news.

The records obtained by the Justice Department listed incoming and outgoing calls, and the duration of each call, for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP.

Maybe some of you ignorant white trash Bush Leaguers remember how Ashcroft and that Latino baglicker spun it? Your votes in 2004 produced this result.

Enjoy.
 
Can you at least, endeavor to post intelligible clap trap?

We can deal with unintelligible (FrancoHFW) or pure clap trap, (redean) but both in the same post are quite irritating. Incoming!
 

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