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ROTFLMFAO....
The heart of the lawsuits against Trump University is that it isn't actually a university, based on the fact that it doesn't issue accredited degrees. Neither, of course does CGI University. Never heard of it? It's the Clinton Global Initiative University. Trump University teaches you how to be an entrepreneur; Clinton University teaches you how to "make a personal commitment for change."
Unlike Trump University, there are no curricula.
From its web site:
Since 2008, students have made more than 6,250 Commitments to Action, and nearly $3 million in funding has been awarded to these commitment-makers.
That's less than $500 per Commitment to Action. That's not great for Girl Scout Cookie sales, let alone for supposed adults.
Trump U has legendarily been accused of selling $35,000 seminars to single mothers. The germ of this is that sales people were to instruct people that if they wanted to attend badly enough, they could swing the investment. Yet the sales guide this supposedly came from, made public through lawsuits, actually cites what kind of people should be pursued as leads: $90K income; $200K *net* positive assets; Single-family home-owners; heads of households with at least 4 family members; college AND graduate-school educated. In other words, such a "sell," even for the $1,500 2nd course, was only to be made to people who had already been selected to be quite capable of affording it. (Note that $200K net positive assets means that any outstanding mortgages or car loans are deducted from net worth.)
Who attended Clinton U? Well, first, and this is important: it was free. Of course, so was Trump's introductory course, but Trump pushed select students to pay more for additional courses. But Clinton U was solely about pushing students to serve as minions for Clinton's political agenda. How much did attendance at a Clinton U event cost? What was the opportunity cost of becoming a minion? Of filing for those measly grants, which averaged only $500?
How much of those grants went to the 600 students who "applied" for status as a "CGI University Campus Representative" back at their real colleges? I put "applied" in scare quotes, because really, was there any competition? 10% of attendees become representatives, some at prestigious colleges, many at not so prestigious ones, and sometimes several at one college. I'm not picking on these schools either -- competitive schools are often wastes of money, but when your sole 2015 Great-Plains belt state university campus rep is at Wichita St, or your sole 2015 Carolinas campus rep isn't UNC or SC, but EAST Carolina, I'm guessing it's not because you turned down the UNC, Clemson, NC State and Duke applicants. I'm also not supposing that the American University at Dubai said, "No, three's the limit; You're highly qualified, but four is just too many."
The heart of the lawsuits against Trump University is that it isn't actually a university, based on the fact that it doesn't issue accredited degrees. Neither, of course does CGI University. Never heard of it? It's the Clinton Global Initiative University. Trump University teaches you how to be an entrepreneur; Clinton University teaches you how to "make a personal commitment for change."
Unlike Trump University, there are no curricula.
From its web site:
Since 2008, students have made more than 6,250 Commitments to Action, and nearly $3 million in funding has been awarded to these commitment-makers.
That's less than $500 per Commitment to Action. That's not great for Girl Scout Cookie sales, let alone for supposed adults.
Trump U has legendarily been accused of selling $35,000 seminars to single mothers. The germ of this is that sales people were to instruct people that if they wanted to attend badly enough, they could swing the investment. Yet the sales guide this supposedly came from, made public through lawsuits, actually cites what kind of people should be pursued as leads: $90K income; $200K *net* positive assets; Single-family home-owners; heads of households with at least 4 family members; college AND graduate-school educated. In other words, such a "sell," even for the $1,500 2nd course, was only to be made to people who had already been selected to be quite capable of affording it. (Note that $200K net positive assets means that any outstanding mortgages or car loans are deducted from net worth.)
Who attended Clinton U? Well, first, and this is important: it was free. Of course, so was Trump's introductory course, but Trump pushed select students to pay more for additional courses. But Clinton U was solely about pushing students to serve as minions for Clinton's political agenda. How much did attendance at a Clinton U event cost? What was the opportunity cost of becoming a minion? Of filing for those measly grants, which averaged only $500?
How much of those grants went to the 600 students who "applied" for status as a "CGI University Campus Representative" back at their real colleges? I put "applied" in scare quotes, because really, was there any competition? 10% of attendees become representatives, some at prestigious colleges, many at not so prestigious ones, and sometimes several at one college. I'm not picking on these schools either -- competitive schools are often wastes of money, but when your sole 2015 Great-Plains belt state university campus rep is at Wichita St, or your sole 2015 Carolinas campus rep isn't UNC or SC, but EAST Carolina, I'm guessing it's not because you turned down the UNC, Clemson, NC State and Duke applicants. I'm also not supposing that the American University at Dubai said, "No, three's the limit; You're highly qualified, but four is just too many."
