Gun deaths in perspective.

[2aguy]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

Birmingham...one of the spots with rising gun crime....

Tell us...why are they having gun raids in Britain....?

Rise in UK firearms trade may provide terrorists with weapons, say police

Hogan-Howe said there were more illegal guns on the streets and said the rise in shootings in the last three months was significant: “The fact that we’re seeing it across the country in the big cities probably indicates that we’re talking about more supply.” Nationally, there has been an increase of around 19% in firearms discharges since 2013-14, with London also experiencing roughly that level of increase.

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Under the new initiative, the Met said, armed patrols will focus on gun crime hotspots across the capital, all of which have pockets of poverty where police and community relations have been strained. They are the boroughs of Newham, Hackney, Haringey, Brent, Lambeth and Southwark.

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Scotland Yard said the new initiative, Operation Viper, will see armed officers accompanying officers on traffic stops as part of a suite of “suppression” measures. Hogan-Howe said more stop and search may also be used, as may so called “section 60” powers allowing stops without an officer needing reasonable suspicion. He said any such tactics would be used only if justified by intelligence.

Police say criminals want access to the guns without keeping them at an address that could be linked to them. In one case three Skorpion automatic weapons were found in south London by workmen. They had been concealed in a bag buried in the ground.

In another case, a loaded MAC-10 machine pistol, known as the “spray and pray” weapon, was found in the home of a mother and her children. She had been looking after it for someone else and was jailed for five years.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

You said you've been to Birmingham?

For lurkers, Pommy just busted himself as a fraud.

The subways are not trains like in New York, they are walled in paths that snake through areas, sometimes underground, sometimes not.The picture above is an example.

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

Since your crime rate is fourth highest in the world and we are only 22nd, maybe you should take care of your problems before sticking your nose in others.

They have teenagers stabbing each other to death all over Britain......their social welfare system has created impulse control problems among their young males....

 

[Markle]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totterers now?

No, the teachers who wish to carry a concealed weapon and the security on hand.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and fuck all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

No...Germans were not allowed to own guns....nazi party members were allowed to own guns.....Jews and political enemies were disarmed using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....the socialists used those lists from the 20s to disarm their victims...who gave up their guns because they trusted their government.....

Germans were murdered, because Europe did nothing....we had to save you...again.....

And the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the socialists......and after the war they gave up their guns again.....having learned nothing from those 12 million people murdered.......

Jews were disarmed after Kristalnacht in 1938. However the majority of Germans wernt and they did fuck all before 1938 or after to stop the slaughter. I am not sure what they could have done really. You simplify a complex situation down to an idiot level.

Its hugely dishonest of you to cite this flimsy case in support of your primitive gun laws.
Perhaps you should consider the fate of the Syrians today. they are not really subject to any gun laws and are being slaughtered every day. Their right to bear arms is doing them fuck all good.

 

[Papageorgio]

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and fuck all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

No...Germans were not allowed to own guns....nazi party members were allowed to own guns.....Jews and political enemies were disarmed using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....the socialists used those lists from the 20s to disarm their victims...who gave up their guns because they trusted their government.....

Germans were murdered, because Europe did nothing....we had to save you...again.....

And the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the socialists......and after the war they gave up their guns again.....having learned nothing from those 12 million people murdered.......

Jews were disarmed after Kristalnacht in 1938. However the majority of Germans wernt and they did fuck all before 1938 or after to stop the slaughter. I am not sure what they could have done really. You simplify a complex situation down to an idiot level.

Its hugely dishonest of you to cite this flimsy case in support of your primitive gun laws.
Perhaps you should consider the fate of the Syrians today. they are not really subject to any gun laws and are being slaughtered every day. Their right to bear arms is doing them fuck all good.

Idiot level seems to be all you understand.

 

[Papageorgio]

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

Since your crime rate is fourth highest in the world and we are only 22nd, maybe you should take care of your problems before sticking your nose in others.

They have teenagers stabbing each other to death all over Britain......their social welfare system has created impulse control problems among their young males....

They just ask them kindly to please quit stabbing people and say nice things to each other, kind of a strange way to handle crime.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I love your avatar.

Thank you, those are my girls.

We are more likely to die from cancer or in a car accident. Firearms are magnificent achievements of western technology , they are works of art But I never have been confronted with someone brandishing a Rembrandt.

True, but I have been confronted by people brandishing guns, so my basic common sense tells me I should have one with me as well.

 

[MaryL]

Ever have a gun pointed at you? It's something you don't forget. I still have nightmares about that, seeing the muzzle flash and I can still feel the heat from the discharge, like it just happened.

 

[Cellblock2429]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

/--- Tommy - stay in your nanny state where it's safe. Leave us alone.

 

[koshergrl]

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

And they were FINE with it!

I believe the European view is that "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic."

"A necessity!"

 

[koshergrl]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totters now?

No...we need to end gun free zones.....

I have a bullet in my roof and my garage, what did IT do to deserve that:? We have a bunch of morons shooting guns off at New Years and all these illegal Mexicans trying to cap each other besides, what can the rest us do?

Defend yourselves, dumbasses.

 

[Papageorgio]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10320

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So 100 posts down the line there is no response to the fact that the UK is safer than the US because we arent gun obsessed wankers.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10320

Yes, its a tram and runs above ground.

 

[MaryL]

Excuse me. I like guns their nice and everything, Beautiful machines. But the fear they create, I can do without. I have bullets in my house, and have had morons with guns threaten me. Do you comprehend how evil guns are? i thought we westerners were

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10320

Nothing would make me happier than to move to England right now, buster.

 

[Papageorgio]

So 100 posts down the line there is no response to the fact that the UK is safer than the US because we arent gun obsessed wankers.

Crime is a lot higher in the UK, how are you safer?

 

[Papageorgio]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10320

Yes, its a tram and runs above ground.

That picture looks underground.

 

[Papageorgio]

Excuse me. I like guns their nice and everything, Beautiful machines. But the fear they create, I can do without. I have bullets in my house, and have had morons with guns threaten me. Do you comprehend how evil guns are? i thought we westerners were

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10320

Nothing would make me happier than to move to England right now, buster.

I don't own a gun, nor do I want to.

Do what you want to do, I am not stopping you. I've been there not in my top 25 of places to live, bub.

 

[Markle]

Its because of the way crime is recorded.

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
By James Slack
UPDATED:18:14 EST, 2 July 2009

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 920 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

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