2aguy
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Delusional much? Europe and Australia are a lot safer than the US. Keep on dreaming....this gun romance in the US is laughed at overseas. People die from the gun violence here more than some war torn countries. The stats pUT the IS up there with Salvador, honduras and other third world countries.
It's also cultural, Americans are very agresave and resort to voilence more than their counter parts in civilised countries.
Posed off at the wife, kills her and kill himself and shoot others.
Bullied at achool, kills few students
Gets fired pick a gun and go shoot at his workmates.
Road rage shoot at the motorists.
Wanna rob go grab a gun and rob the closest store to ya.
Doesn't like a politician shoot him or her.
Don't like abortion clinic go kill the workers there.
And the last goes on. You guys are sick and think that owning gun will protect you and make your life more serene.
And the joke I heAR all the time, oh we have guns incase the government goes tyrant on us we fight back LOL. Goodluck fighting against drones, satellite guided missiles, tanks and nukes.
"Every place that has banned guns has seen crime rates go up." What are thise, exactly? Or is it just that we renew our definitions of violent crimes?You still haven't come up with an analysis about that. The proper statistics, reasons for them...someone's else's that is, not yours....And your gun laws had nothing to do with it......why is it that your gun crime and murder rate are the same as they were before and after the ban...and are now going up? Your gun laws didn't change anything......but your social welfare system, which has created young males with impulse control problems...and your immigration policies....are now creating the violence you think you don't have...I don't buy this story about the new gun regulation being the reason for any notable change in crime rates.
yeah...I did......
Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center
The stats diagram...link to the image...
http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/UK-Firearm-crime-statistics.png
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Britain.....Australia....the rest of Europe....they are experiencing more crime.....after they banned guns.....their criminals get guns when they want them and the only thing they haven't been doing is murdering people...and that is changing....
And you are wrong...gun crime is increasing in Australia..after the ban......Melbourne, Australia is now known as the City of the Gun...after the ban.....
Gun city: Young, dumb and armed
The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.
Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.
These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.
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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.
Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year
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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.
Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.
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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.
“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.
“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”
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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.
The investigation has found:
- There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
- Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
- The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
- Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
- Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts
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The second part of the series....
Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West
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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty
Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."
The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.
But....military weapons?
And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.