Gun range robbed in Georgia - Owner, Wife and Grandson murdered

What I got from that was, if you're disarmed, you have no means of self defence against an illegal immigrant. If you're a gun range owner carrying, you get ambushed and murdered, so carrying was no good for defence against an illegal immigrant. What a quandary!


They would be just as dead if they didn't have the guns...guns gave them a chance.....the guys who went in knew they had guns, and yet, still went in.....knowing they would likely have to shoot them....

And yet you still want the good guys disarmed......

you are an idiot.
 
What I got from that was, if you're disarmed, you have no means of self defence against an illegal immigrant. If you're a gun range owner carrying, you get ambushed and murdered, so carrying was no good for defence against an illegal immigrant. What a quandary!


They murdered the son too.......so again, if they didn't have guns, they would have been murdered anyway...the killers did not care to leave witnesses....
 
What I got from that was, if you're disarmed, you have no means of self defence against an illegal immigrant. If you're a gun range owner carrying, you get ambushed and murdered, so carrying was no good for defence against an illegal immigrant. What a quandary!


They could have robbed the store when the owners were not there...they chose to do this with the family on site............they would have murdered them anyway....

This is how you do it if you don't plan on murder...

 
They would be just as dead if they didn't have the guns...guns gave them a chance.....the guys who went in knew they had guns, and yet, still went in.....knowing they would likely have to shoot them....

And yet you still want the good guys disarmed......

you are an idiot.
Not true 2A. There's evidence to show that the gun range owner didn't believe he was better off armed.
Him and his family are dead because he actually did need to be armed if he chose to live completely immersed and surrounded by guns.
He could have hired armed bodyguards to stand guard over his family night and day.
 
Not true 2A. There's evidence to show that the gun range owner didn't believe he was better off armed.
Him and his family are dead because he actually did need to be armed if he chose to live completely immersed and surrounded by guns.
He could have hired armed bodyguards to stand guard over his family night and day.


Moron.......other stores are robbed and the owners murdered, you idiot......

You really are a dumb human being.....

These people were not armed, did not resist......you moron....

 
5:30-6:30 pm Friday robbery is ballsy-----they took the camera/DVR too. Means someones who had been in the store before---likely an employee/inside job.

We'll see.
Since these gun range / pawn shop robberies are beginning to happen all over the country in coordinated fashion, I still think it could be more than that.
As if people hide their DVR's

99% of the time they are exactly where you would expect them to be. In the office on a shelf.
There is nothing about them taking the DVR that points to an inside job more than a professional job.
 
What I got from that was, if you're disarmed, you have no means of self defence against an illegal immigrant. If you're a gun range owner carrying, you get ambushed and murdered, so carrying was no good for defence against an illegal immigrant. What a quandary!
Most immigrants want a better life away from cartels. They are decent and willing to work hard. I know what Trump said and I think we can solve the illegal immigrant problem. But, don't demonize them.
 
It's called...."Getting the drop".....

It doesn't matter too much if you are armed if you are totally taken by surprise and ambushed.

If the cartel wants to kill you, they're not going to advertise it and hesitate. By the time you realize you are going to die it is too late to draw your weapon. Like I already said, the vast majority are clueless as to how easily trained ruthless assassins can kill you, armed or not.

It's going to take more than just being armed. Again. Americans have lived very safe protected existences up to now.
They have no clue how to deal with what's coming or the brutality that exists. People in South America know.
Some people who live in gang infested and drug dealing areas have some clue.

White boys in rural areas who go deer hunting are completely, unequivocally unprepared and probably more so than most because more than most they live under the false security of thinking that because they have a gun they are invincible and never dealt with gang or inner city brutality.
They will not be ready for anything that can actually shoot back or God forbid, shoot first.
 
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Gun range owners could be anti-gun, and are providing a relatively safe place for the gunners to use their guns, as opposed to packing heat on the streets.

Ths gun store owner was most likely unarmed and opposed to being armed to protect himself and his family.

Unfortunately, his choice was to live by the gun. Also close by the gun in a different sense.
Ok, just when it said, " These dead people probably were carrying. Carrying is not going to help you when you get ambushed and blindsided by experts and violent people who are trained for it." in the OP.
 
Not true 2A. There's evidence to show that the gun range owner didn't believe he was better off armed.
Him and his family are dead because he actually did need to be armed if he chose to live completely immersed and surrounded by guns.
He could have hired armed bodyguards to stand guard over his family night and day.
A gun range is like putting a large advert in the local paper saying you keep $1million under your mattress, you then become a target. A gun range and gun shops are going to be targets for thieves and gangs. As you say, bodyguards could have been an option, just have to raise the membership fee to pay for them. It was for the family to assess the risk, maybe they thought being armed was making them safe. Just goes to show.
 
They could have robbed the store when the owners were not there...they chose to do this with the family on site............they would have murdered them anyway....

This is how you do it if you don't plan on murder...


Wow, 3 replies to the same post in 4 minutes!

And no, I don't believe citizens should be disarmed. You are more than welcome to highlight where I've said they should. I've always said that if you are of good character, legitamate reason for a certain type of gun, adequate gun security cabinate at home etc.. (just like in UK, Australia and New Zealand), all backed up with "Proper" checks, registration system and meaningful fines/punishment for getting it wrong.
 
Most immigrants want a better life away from cartels. They are decent and willing to work hard. I know what Trump said and I think we can solve the illegal immigrant problem. But, don't demonize them.
You used the word most. It's like having your front door removed and allow anyone through your house because most would be ok. So you have a front door and doorbell to allow you to check if they can enter. Countries try a similar thing, all countries would like desirable immigration that fulfills the skills shortages. For example, does the UK need any more people who can wash cars by using a sponge or do we need doctors. So the Visa system has visas for doctors and not for car sponge washers.

70% of crime in the UK is caused by foreign nationals, and often between foreign nationals too. Are illegals law abiding in the US?

Plus, illegals was referenced in the OP
 
Jesus….

A county coroner in Georgia discovered the bodies of his parents and his son, who were killed Friday in an apparent robbery at the Lock Stock & Barrel Shooting Range in Grantville, police say.

All three were shot, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) confirmed Saturday.

The incident occurred around 5:30 p.m., the Grantville Police Department said in a statement on Facebook. Grantville is about 50 miles southwest of Atlanta.

Grantville Police Chief Steve Whitlock identified the victims as Tommy Hawk, his wife Evelyn and their 19-year-old grandson, Luke.

Coweta County Coroner Richard Hawk was among the first people to arrive at the scene and discovered the bodies, according to the police chief.
 
3 dead, 40 weapons stolen after robbery at Georgia shooting range

Tragedy.
If you follow the news, gun range robberies are on the increase.

Some speculate it may be cartel related as unknown illegals enter the country they may be securing arms for their forces inside the USA as they "set up shop" in the USA the same as they have in South America. This is what Democrats are doing to America.

in any event, this is most likely a result of the Democrats Open Borders Policy and it is going to cost millions of American lives. So just keep voting democrat like an imbecile.

One YouTube channel called Guns and Gadgets, the host (Jared?) suggests that is why he carries. This is an idiotic statement. These dead people probably were carrying.
Carrying is not going to help you when you get ambushed and blindsided by experts and violent people who are trained for it.
Americans like Jared are clueless. They have no idea the tactics and efficiency of the cartels and naively think they can take on the Sicaros and cartel which have
highly trained and ruthless soldiers....if it turns out to be cartel related.

Just as easily it could be gang related. Again, the open borders policies of Democrats are opening Pandoras box and unleashing hell on America while patting themselves on the back and working feverishly to totally disarm Americans so that you will have absolutely zero means of self defense.

As long as Democrats have any say whatsoever in governing, this type of disaster will increase in frequency and as is already happening, it will be open season on murdering innocent Americans....like you.
This is a lie.

‘Blaming’ Democrats for this incident is as dishonest as it is idiotic.
 
3 dead, 40 weapons stolen after robbery at Georgia shooting range

Tragedy.
If you follow the news, gun range robberies are on the increase.

Some speculate it may be cartel related as unknown illegals enter the country they may be securing arms for their forces inside the USA as they "set up shop" in the USA the same as they have in South America. This is what Democrats are doing to America.

in any event, this is most likely a result of the Democrats Open Borders Policy and it is going to cost millions of American lives. So just keep voting democrat like an imbecile.

One YouTube channel called Guns and Gadgets, the host (Jared?) suggests that is why he carries. This is an idiotic statement. These dead people probably were carrying.
Carrying is not going to help you when you get ambushed and blindsided by experts and violent people who are trained for it.
Americans like Jared are clueless. They have no idea the tactics and efficiency of the cartels and naively think they can take on the Sicaros and cartel which have
highly trained and ruthless soldiers....if it turns out to be cartel related.

Just as easily it could be gang related. Again, the open borders policies of Democrats are opening Pandoras box and unleashing hell on America while patting themselves on the back and working feverishly to totally disarm Americans so that you will have absolutely zero means of self defense.

As long as Democrats have any say whatsoever in governing, this type of disaster will increase in frequency and as is already happening, it will be open season on murdering innocent Americans....like you.
How is that possible?
 
It's called...."Getting the drop".....

It doesn't matter too much if you are armed if you are totally taken by surprise and ambushed.

If the cartel wants to kill you, they're not going to advertise it and hesitate. By the time you realize you are going to die it is too late to draw your weapon. Like I already said, the vast majority are clueless as to how easily trained ruthless assassins can kill you, armed or not.

It's going to take more than just being armed. Again. Americans have lived very safe protected existences up to now.
They have no clue how to deal with what's coming or the brutality that exists. People in South America know.
Some people who live in gang infested and drug dealing areas have some clue.

White boys in rural areas who go deer hunting are completely, unequivocally unprepared and probably more so than most because more than most they live under the false security of thinking that because they have a gun they are invincible and never dealt with gang or inner city brutality.
They will not be ready for anything that can actually shoot back or God forbid, shoot first.
I hope they find the killers soon.
 
What I got from that was, if you're disarmed, you have no means of self defence against an illegal immigrant. If you're a gun range owner carrying, you get ambushed and murdered, so carrying was no good for defence against an illegal immigrant. What a quandary!
No you learned that if they get the Drop on your Wife & Grandson , don't surrender your weapon in hopes of saving them , Mag Dump the nearest perps because they like the animals they are will most likely kill your loved ones in front of you ,then kill you because you know one of them .
 

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